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Thu 06/21/18 04:58 AM


b] EVERY SINGLE CASE the police officers have been found to be NOT guilty by their own fellow police officers for these crimes,and not had to pay ANY penalty whatsoever for them,except for maybe time off WITH PAY while the investigations are going on,it doesnt really matter how many GOOd cops there are out there,cuz when the GOOD cops keep covering up for,and excusing the BAD ones who ARE bad,then i feel that that makes the GOOD cops just as guilty as the BAD cops who originally commited the crimes that people who were NOT POLICICE OFFICERS would have gone to prison for!

so,until the 'good' cops stop covering up for,and excusing the 'bad' cops,just because they have a badge,and start holding the bad cops accountable for the crimes that they commit,then i have a hard time considering ANY cop to be a truly 'good' one!


When you contrast that they will now prosecute family members of people for not running to the cops if they know something, against the fact that if George Holliday had not been playing with his new birthday present, (a camcorder), Rodney King would have been just a black guy (n***r to some here) that was lying about being beaten by the police, it's hard not to puke.

And even that's not enough sometime.

Michael Slager was caught on video shooting Walter Scott. IN THE BACK, AS HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, and then planting evidence.

And the "Good Ole' Southern boys" thought...: "It's just another nigra'.. What's one more dead nigra' more or less? And acquitted him.

The only reason he pled guilty to the feds, was so they wouldn't stick a needle in his arm.

America: One nation, under surveillance, with waterboards and wiretaps for all. In the land of the fee, and the home of the slave..

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Thu 06/21/18 06:33 AM




i am not trying to claim that all police officers are as bad as this one that the OP made this thread about,but,since everybody has a camera with them at all times nowadays,and now there has been so much photographic evidence of police using unneccessary force,and commiting so many unjustified killings of people,and,even though there is so much evidence to prove that the police officers did these things,but in just about EVERY SINGLE CASE the police officers have been found to be NOT guilty by their own fellow police officers for these crimes,and not had to pay ANY penalty whatsoever for them,except for maybe time off WITH PAY while the investigations are going on,it doesnt really matter how many GOOd cops there are out there,cuz when the GOOD cops keep covering up for,and excusing the BAD ones who ARE bad,then i feel that that makes the GOOD cops just as guilty as the BAD cops who originally commited the crimes that people who were NOT POLICICE OFFICERS would have gone to prison for!

so,until the 'good' cops stop covering up for,and excusing the 'bad' cops,just because they have a badge,and start holding the bad cops accountable for the crimes that they commit,then i have a hard time considering ANY cop to be a truly 'good' one!


with all due respect shovelhead dave

this is ridiculous.

Ever heard of ex-Chicago Police Sergeant Ronald Watts? crooked cop that framed more than 15 innocent people and now he is prison mind you he got a slap on the wrist 22 months in prison or jail actually

what about the widow of Fox Lake Police Lt. Joe Gliniewicz, after police investigated him and led them to her.

many more cases like that, cops are not getting off as easy as they once were, but are you reporting those cases shovelhead?

Why are they getting paid while on leave? because collective bargaining from the police unions made it possible.

Remember unions are good for the average worker right? or at least that is what the left and Democrats keeps saying

Good cops are coming forward because of the whistle blowing laws, before they couldn't because of fears of retaliation, think Serpico from the NYPD an honest cop turning in his corrupt boys in blue,look what he went through.




i am not claiming that NONE of them have been held accountable for what they have done,if you had actualy read my post,instead of just jumping in and wanting to argue that it isnt true,you would have seen that[as i am sure that you DID see it,but it just wsnt convenient for your argument to include that fact!],but THE MAJRITY of them get off scott free,because the 'good' cops who investigate these crimes are biased in favor of their fellow officers,and choose to sweep these incidents under the rug,instead of prosecuting a fellow police officer for a crime.

just about every week,there is a NEW incident on the news where the cops overstep their right to use deadly/excessive force,and nothing is done about it,because the 'good' cops protect the 'bad' cops,making THEM just as guilty as the ones who actually commit the offense,as they are enabling it to continue.

just cuz you were able to name A FEW incidents where the cops were held accountable doesnt make all of THOSE go away.

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Thu 06/21/18 06:49 AM


i am not claiming that NONE of them have been held accountable for what they have done,if you had actualy read my post,instead of just jumping in and wanting to argue that it isnt true,you would have seen that[as i am sure that you DID see it,but it just wsnt convenient for your argument to include that fact!],but THE MAJRITY of them get off scott free,because the 'good' cops who investigate these crimes are biased in favor of their fellow officers,and choose to sweep these incidents under the rug,instead of prosecuting a fellow police officer for a crime.


Just because you named a few high profile case does not mean it the norm.

Just like I named a few high profile cases to counter your argument

facts are facts, unless you can provide hard data that shows this pattern you claim is true



just about every week,there is a NEW incident on the news where the cops overstep their right to use deadly/excessive force,and nothing is done about it,because the 'good' cops protect the 'bad' cops,making THEM just as guilty as the ones who actually commit the offense,as they are enabling it to continue.

just cuz you were able to name A FEW incidents where the cops were held accountable doesn't make all of THOSE go away.


I can name more than a few incidents but that isn't point, If I named all the incidents we would be here for a while.

A lot of these incidents dont make national headlines because main street media isn't interested in reporting on it, stuff like this doesn't sell papers or bring advertisers to their station.

what brings advertisers to the media station is controversial reporting

Perhaps you should take an economics 101 course and might understand how certain businesses work.

The Main street media isn't interested in reporting actual news, they are interesting in promoting their agenda and earning revenue from it is a bonus.

This is why some independent news sources are having problems competing and why they need donors, they cannot compete against corporate big wigs like CNN and MSNBC, because those news companies need revenue and has big corporate sponsors and advertisers to pay their high priced mouth pieces like Anderson Blooper or Joe I dont know squat Scarborough.


Mind you Fox is garbage too with Hannity and the rest of the Trump pomp pomp sisters and brothers.


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Thu 06/21/18 07:10 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Thu 06/21/18 07:11 AM





i am not trying to claim that all police officers are as bad as this one that the OP made this thread about,but,since everybody has a camera with them at all times nowadays,and now there has been so much photographic evidence of police using unneccessary force,and commiting so many unjustified killings of people,and,even though there is so much evidence to prove that the police officers did these things,but in just about EVERY SINGLE CASE the police officers have been found to be NOT guilty by their own fellow police officers for these crimes,and not had to pay ANY penalty whatsoever for them,except for maybe time off WITH PAY while the investigations are going on,it doesnt really matter how many GOOd cops there are out there,cuz when the GOOD cops keep covering up for,and excusing the BAD ones who ARE bad,then i feel that that makes the GOOD cops just as guilty as the BAD cops who originally commited the crimes that people who were NOT POLICICE OFFICERS would have gone to prison for!

so,until the 'good' cops stop covering up for,and excusing the 'bad' cops,just because they have a badge,and start holding the bad cops accountable for the crimes that they commit,then i have a hard time considering ANY cop to be a truly 'good' one!


with all due respect shovelhead dave

this is ridiculous.

Ever heard of ex-Chicago Police Sergeant Ronald Watts? crooked cop that framed more than 15 innocent people and now he is prison mind you he got a slap on the wrist 22 months in prison or jail actually

what about the widow of Fox Lake Police Lt. Joe Gliniewicz, after police investigated him and led them to her.

many more cases like that, cops are not getting off as easy as they once were, but are you reporting those cases shovelhead?

Why are they getting paid while on leave? because collective bargaining from the police unions made it possible.

Remember unions are good for the average worker right? or at least that is what the left and Democrats keeps saying

Good cops are coming forward because of the whistle blowing laws, before they couldn't because of fears of retaliation, think Serpico from the NYPD an honest cop turning in his corrupt boys in blue,look what he went through.




i am not claiming that NONE of them have been held accountable for what they have done,if you had actualy read my post,instead of just jumping in and wanting to argue that it isnt true,you would have seen that[as i am sure that you DID see it,but it just wsnt convenient for your argument to include that fact!],but THE MAJRITY of them get off scott free,because the 'good' cops who investigate these crimes are biased in favor of their fellow officers,and choose to sweep these incidents under the rug,instead of prosecuting a fellow police officer for a crime.

just about every week,there is a NEW incident on the news where the cops overstep their right to use deadly/excessive force,and nothing is done about it,because the 'good' cops protect the 'bad' cops,making THEM just as guilty as the ones who actually commit the offense,as they are enabling it to continue.

just cuz you were able to name A FEW incidents where the cops were held accountable doesnt make all of THOSE go away.


Catch the news this morning?

Black kid, shot in the back running by a Pittsburgh cop.

Must be a new record though.. He was officially sworn in, and received his badge, only FOUR hours before bagging his first black kid. At this rate, he won't last a month before he begs his limit.

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Thu 06/21/18 07:14 AM
Edited by Easttowest72 on Thu 06/21/18 07:22 AM
Why was the black kid running? Parents should teacher their kids to obey laws. Comply when a police officer tries to stop you.

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Thu 06/21/18 07:15 AM


Catch the news this morning?

Black kid, shot in the back running by a Pittsburgh cop.

Must be a new record though.. He was officially sworn in, and received his badge, only FOUR hours before bagging his first black kid. At this rate, he won't last a month before he begs his limit.


you mean this incident? {notice the bold part)

Antwon Rose, 17, was shot three times Tuesday night and killed after he and another passenger fled from a car stopped by police in East Pittsburgh. Police say the car was possibly used in a non-fatal shooting 15 minutes earlier.

Officers found two semi-automatic handguns on the floor of the car. Allegheny County Police Superintendent Coleman McDonough said he was confident the car pulled over by East Pittsburgh police was involved in the incident, noting that a back window had been shot out.

But a cellphone video capturing the incident has contributed to local outrage because it shows an officer firing at Rose as he tried to sprint away from officers.

The video, watched by USA TODAY, shows a person fleeing from a vehicle stopped by a group of police. Three shots ring out as another figure also runs away from cops.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/20/police-fatally-shoot-17-year-old-antwon-rose-fleeing-traffic-stop-east-pittsburgh/719334002/

yes these innocent teens Viper, innocent teens minding their own business coming back from church as they were discussing fundraising for the poor and elderly in the their neighbourhood

These poor law abiding teens

booo hooo hoooooo.




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Thu 06/21/18 09:09 AM



Catch the news this morning?

Black kid, shot in the back running by a Pittsburgh cop.

Must be a new record though.. He was officially sworn in, and received his badge, only FOUR hours before bagging his first black kid. At this rate, he won't last a month before he begs his limit.


you mean this incident? {notice the bold part)

Antwon Rose, 17, was shot three times Tuesday night and killed after he and another passenger fled from a car stopped by police in East Pittsburgh. Police say the car was possibly used in a non-fatal shooting 15 minutes earlier.

Officers found two semi-automatic handguns on the floor of the car. Allegheny County Police Superintendent Coleman McDonough said he was confident the car pulled over by East Pittsburgh police was involved in the incident, noting that a back window had been shot out.

But a cellphone video capturing the incident has contributed to local outrage because it shows an officer firing at Rose as he tried to sprint away from officers.

The video, watched by USA TODAY, shows a person fleeing from a vehicle stopped by a group of police. Three shots ring out as another figure also runs away from cops.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/20/police-fatally-shoot-17-year-old-antwon-rose-fleeing-traffic-stop-east-pittsburgh/719334002/

yes these innocent teens Viper, innocent teens minding their own business coming back from church as they were discussing fundraising for the poor and elderly in the their neighbourhood

These poor law abiding teens

booo hooo hoooooo.






and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!


shovelheaddave's photo
Thu 06/21/18 09:10 AM






i am not trying to claim that all police officers are as bad as this one that the OP made this thread about,but,since everybody has a camera with them at all times nowadays,and now there has been so much photographic evidence of police using unneccessary force,and commiting so many unjustified killings of people,and,even though there is so much evidence to prove that the police officers did these things,but in just about EVERY SINGLE CASE the police officers have been found to be NOT guilty by their own fellow police officers for these crimes,and not had to pay ANY penalty whatsoever for them,except for maybe time off WITH PAY while the investigations are going on,it doesnt really matter how many GOOd cops there are out there,cuz when the GOOD cops keep covering up for,and excusing the BAD ones who ARE bad,then i feel that that makes the GOOD cops just as guilty as the BAD cops who originally commited the crimes that people who were NOT POLICICE OFFICERS would have gone to prison for!

so,until the 'good' cops stop covering up for,and excusing the 'bad' cops,just because they have a badge,and start holding the bad cops accountable for the crimes that they commit,then i have a hard time considering ANY cop to be a truly 'good' one!


with all due respect shovelhead dave

this is ridiculous.

Ever heard of ex-Chicago Police Sergeant Ronald Watts? crooked cop that framed more than 15 innocent people and now he is prison mind you he got a slap on the wrist 22 months in prison or jail actually

what about the widow of Fox Lake Police Lt. Joe Gliniewicz, after police investigated him and led them to her.

many more cases like that, cops are not getting off as easy as they once were, but are you reporting those cases shovelhead?

Why are they getting paid while on leave? because collective bargaining from the police unions made it possible.

Remember unions are good for the average worker right? or at least that is what the left and Democrats keeps saying

Good cops are coming forward because of the whistle blowing laws, before they couldn't because of fears of retaliation, think Serpico from the NYPD an honest cop turning in his corrupt boys in blue,look what he went through.




i am not claiming that NONE of them have been held accountable for what they have done,if you had actualy read my post,instead of just jumping in and wanting to argue that it isnt true,you would have seen that[as i am sure that you DID see it,but it just wsnt convenient for your argument to include that fact!],but THE MAJRITY of them get off scott free,because the 'good' cops who investigate these crimes are biased in favor of their fellow officers,and choose to sweep these incidents under the rug,instead of prosecuting a fellow police officer for a crime.

just about every week,there is a NEW incident on the news where the cops overstep their right to use deadly/excessive force,and nothing is done about it,because the 'good' cops protect the 'bad' cops,making THEM just as guilty as the ones who actually commit the offense,as they are enabling it to continue.

just cuz you were able to name A FEW incidents where the cops were held accountable doesnt make all of THOSE go away.


Catch the news this morning?

Black kid, shot in the back running by a Pittsburgh cop.

Must be a new record though.. He was officially sworn in, and received his badge, only FOUR hours before bagging his first black kid. At this rate, he won't last a month before he begs his limit.


the officer that was involved in the case that you are referring to that was only sworn in only 4 hours before he shot the fleeing teenager in the back,was only new to the PITTSBURG police department...

he had served 8 years with a different department before he was hired by the pittsburg p.d.,so he was actually a veteran officer,with lots of experience,not a rookie,fresh out of school with no experience.

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Thu 06/21/18 09:29 AM







and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!




no, its shows how naive or disingenuous you are, lets see the report says the teens were possibly involved in a non fatal shooting?

Duh.

what do you think that means, whether he was running away or not, he was involved in a crime and the police took no chances, I dont blame them especially at night how does the cop know he isn't brandishing a weapon and would have shot the cop.


You people kill me ( pardon the pun) , the cop doesn't know the teens drop the weapon the things that is going through his mind is how to protect myself just in case.

There are too many of these thugs shooting at police, which you fail to mention.

here is a hint, law abiding citizens dont run from police.



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Thu 06/21/18 09:34 AM








and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!




no, its shows how naive or disingenuous you are, lets see the report says the teens were possibly involved in a non fatal shooting?

Duh.

what do you think that means, whether he was running away or not, he was involved in a crime and the police took no chances, I dont blame them especially at night how does the cop know he isn't brandishing a weapon and would have shot the cop.


You people kill me ( pardon the pun) , the cop doesn't know the teens drop the weapon the things that is going through his mind is how to protect myself just in case.

There are too many of these thugs shooting at police, which you fail to mention.

here is a hint, law abiding citizens dont run from police.





and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!




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Thu 06/21/18 09:41 AM
Once again let me say this slowly for you


There was a report that the teens were involved in a shooting even though it was non fatal

Do I need to explain the concept of shooting someone?

These teens were thugs and cops dont know if they would be shot at if they cornered the thugs

Once again for those folks who are little slow

Law abiding citizens dont run from the police.


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Thu 06/21/18 11:12 AM
I just saw it on the news. The teenagers appear to be gangbangers who were involved in a shooting. They were a danger to the community and needed to be stopped.

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Thu 06/21/18 11:17 AM
The policeman just saved tax payers a ton of money in court cost and housing that thug for the rest of his life.

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Thu 06/21/18 11:24 AM








and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!




no, its shows how naive or disingenuous you are, lets see the report says the teens were possibly involved in a non fatal shooting?

Duh.

what do you think that means, whether he was running away or not, he was involved in a crime and the police took no chances, I dont blame them especially at night how does the cop know he isn't brandishing a weapon and would have shot the cop.


You people kill me ( pardon the pun) , the cop doesn't know the teens drop the weapon the things that is going through his mind is how to protect myself just in case.

There are too many of these thugs shooting at police, which you fail to mention.

here is a hint, law abiding citizens dont run from police.





Walter Scott would disagree.

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Thu 06/21/18 11:28 AM
The only difference between a fatal and none fatal shooting is if they leave them to continue then the day will come when the non fatal is a fatal!
We here are way to soft on gang culture, hit them fast and hit them hard! !

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Thu 06/21/18 11:35 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Thu 06/21/18 11:35 AM


the officer that was involved in the case that you are referring to that was only sworn in only 4 hours before he shot the fleeing teenager in the back,was only new to the PITTSBURG police department...

he had served 8 years with a different department before he was hired by the pittsburg p.d.,so he was actually a veteran officer,with lots of experience,not a rookie,fresh out of school with no experience.


Still, if they have limits on how many deer hunters can shoot there should be limits on how many black kids cops can shoot.

Otherwise, there may not be enough to go around!

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Thu 06/21/18 11:42 AM
Edited by diserli_gears on Thu 06/21/18 11:42 AM


Walter Scott would disagree.


Miosotis Familia family would agree, her ex partner Vincent Maher who watched her die as he frantically tried to save her life would agree.

A woman who was injured earlier on the job and preferred to go back on duty and her paycheque like the good American citizen she was

Do you weep for this black woman Viper and Shovelhead dave? that was killed by a cop hating black thug, or you dont care?

You weep for Walter Scott a hump who wouldn't even pay his child support, he had a warrant out for his arrest.

Did he deserve to die? nobody deserves to die , no I take that back, child molesting, violent rapists, mass murderers and terrorists that kill Innocent people deserves to die, suffer first then die

While I dont weep for Walter Scott and I dont know why that cop shot him nor do I care, I do weep for Miosotis Familia because he was an outstanding citizen and the law abiding citizens of New York city was robbed of a good person.

Like I said, common sense would dictate DONT RUN FROM THE POLICE

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Thu 06/21/18 11:58 AM



the officer that was involved in the case that you are referring to that was only sworn in only 4 hours before he shot the fleeing teenager in the back,was only new to the PITTSBURG police department...

he had served 8 years with a different department before he was hired by the pittsburg p.d.,so he was actually a veteran officer,with lots of experience,not a rookie,fresh out of school with no experience.


Still, if they have limits on how many deer hunters can shoot there should be limits on how many black kids cops can shoot.

Otherwise, there may not be enough to go around!


When there is an over population they increase the number you can kill each year and the number of hunting days.

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Thu 06/21/18 12:06 PM

Once again let me say this slowly for you


There was a report that the teens were involved in a shooting even though it was non fatal

Do I need to explain the concept of shooting someone?

These teens were thugs and cops dont know if they would be shot at if they cornered the thugs

Once again for those folks who are little slow

Law abiding citizens dont run from the police.




and,once again...let me say this again,and i will type[cut&paste]this REALLY slow so that you can understand it!!...

and,you think that this justifies shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you??

well,i think that this plainly shows that you OBVIOUSLY dont know ANYTHING about the law,and what justifies the use of deadly force!!!


you seem to be confused,and think that just because it is your own opinion that it is a fact,but you are just openly demonstrating to everyone on this site that reads it that you have absolutely no grasp on reality,and no matter how many times you repeat it,it will not change the fact that shooting somebody in the back while they are running away from you is NOT a justifiable use of deadly force!!

i only hope and pray that you do not have access to any weapons,and will immediately seek professional mental help to help you work your way past these delusions!!
explode


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Thu 06/21/18 12:07 PM




the officer that was involved in the case that you are referring to that was only sworn in only 4 hours before he shot the fleeing teenager in the back,was only new to the PITTSBURG police department...

he had served 8 years with a different department before he was hired by the pittsburg p.d.,so he was actually a veteran officer,with lots of experience,not a rookie,fresh out of school with no experience.


Still, if they have limits on how many deer hunters can shoot there should be limits on how many black kids cops can shoot.

Otherwise, there may not be enough to go around!


When there is an over population they increase the number you can kill each year and the number of hunting days.


So you're implying that there's an "overpopulation" of black kids, so the kill limit is increased?

I do remember that you are quite racist on the other forum as well, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

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