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Topic: Democrats Aren't All Bad (Really!)
Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/06/18 04:58 AM
My blog post for 08/05/18

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Democrats Aren't All Bad (Really!)



Democrats aren't all bad. Granted, that should go without saying, but some Republicans have trouble believing it.

It is a mistake for Republicans to pretend that they are holier-than or more-righteous-than Democrats because the former aren't.

No, one doesn't have to be a liberal or a Democrat to offer a defense of Democrats. This blogger has never been a Democrat and has never wanted a Democrat to occupy the Oval Office. Yet, this blogger will defend Democrats when they deserve defending.

Sure, Democrats are mistaken about plenty of things even when they won't admit to being mistaken.

Still, Democrats are just as human as Republicans, and Republicans are just as fallible as Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans alike embrace beliefs that are emotionally pleasing even if those beliefs are factually false.

Yes, one can find reason and sanity among Democrats. However, the reasonable and sane Democrats aren't often mentioned in national news because media members don't consider such Democrats to be newsworthy.

It is the crazy Democrats who get the most exposure by the media because controversy sells newspapers.

If America's liberal media are the publishing arm of the Democratic Party, then it is because America's liberal media are focused on their primary objective, which is to earn a profit.

Greater profit is earned from the crazy than from the sane.

Yes, the crazies are running the Democratic Party.

Sure, the same can be said about the Republican Party. After all, look who is the POTUS.

By the way, if Republicans and Conservatives believe that Democrats are bad now, then the former should consider the history depicted in the following image:



The modern-day Democratic Party is nothing like the Democratic Party that the Republican Party was formed to oppose.

Then again, the modern-day Republican Party isn't the party of Lincoln, either.

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Posted @ The Moderate Voice

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Easttowest72's photo
Mon 08/06/18 05:32 AM
I don't think Republicans hate democrats. You are correct about the crazy left getting the most attention. But we don't see any Democrats who want real border security. I really believe that they are for open borders. To me it's treasonous. We desperately need more Republicans so Trump can do his job without having his hands tied. Democrats aren't focused on the American people.

If I was a Democrat, I would be pushing for an increase in minimum wage. A tarriff to cover ins for temporary works and part time (like Wal-Mart). Decrease prices of meds and medical bills.

Easttowest72's photo
Mon 08/06/18 06:45 AM

Cool. Im a liberal Independent.

I usually think that when a member posts with subjective terms like 'moron media' etc, they lose any semblance of credibility so I dont generally bother posting in this forum. If they were to say, 'this anchor was inaccurate when they said x' that would be fodder for actual discussion but thats rare in here. Even quoting links seems to be unnecessary to most. Why bother with actual information, right?

Kindov a waste of time.

I think there are surely Republicans who hate Democrats, and they happen to be more active than the Democrats who hate Republicans, in here, so they create a lot of stereotype. When Republicans exist who do NOT behave badly, publicly, stand idly by, they promote the bad behavior whether they mean to or not.

John McCain is an example of a Republican I respect. I might have voted for him. A Republican, without having seen combat himself, who would say,"He's not a war hero, I like people who weren't captured" is an example of one I do not respect.




None of this is about the issues and this will be the problem democrats have in Nov and again in 2020. You can't run a complain based on you hate Trump or who Trump insulted. It does nothing to solve the problem with the border, healthcare, economy, etc.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/06/18 06:46 AM
I appreciate it Dodo. A political label does not take away that each person is an individual with their own INDIVIDUAL beliefs and perceptions from their own individual experiences.

There is no borg. There is no party of clones who all are of the same mind on everything.

and KLC as well. Yes it is a highly pro rebublican anti democrat leaning forum that does seem to forego substantiating links or data/facts.

I also had respect for McCain. It was unfortunate he chose the running mate that he did, not because of her party, but because of her as an INDIVIDUAL and the words that came out of her mouth.

For me personally, alot of the posts lose credibility when they are reduced to insult of 'the left' this and 'the right' that instead of debating of what the individual's opinions are.



msharmony's photo
Mon 08/06/18 06:47 AM


Cool. Im a liberal Independent.

I usually think that when a member posts with subjective terms like 'moron media' etc, they lose any semblance of credibility so I dont generally bother posting in this forum. If they were to say, 'this anchor was inaccurate when they said x' that would be fodder for actual discussion but thats rare in here. Even quoting links seems to be unnecessary to most. Why bother with actual information, right?

Kindov a waste of time.

I think there are surely Republicans who hate Democrats, and they happen to be more active than the Democrats who hate Republicans, in here, so they create a lot of stereotype. When Republicans exist who do NOT behave badly, publicly, stand idly by, they promote the bad behavior whether they mean to or not.

John McCain is an example of a Republican I respect. I might have voted for him. A Republican, without having seen combat himself, who would say,"He's not a war hero, I like people who weren't captured" is an example of one I do not respect.




None of this is about the issues and this will be the problem democrats have in Nov and again in 2020. You can't run a complain based on you hate Trump or who Trump insulted. It does nothing to solve the problem with the border, healthcare, economy, etc.


The OP was not about issues, but about either party and how the member demonize the other.



Easttowest72's photo
Mon 08/06/18 07:37 AM
McCain is very sick. There are plenty of democrats in office now who are Trump hating and can't answer what they would do about the issues. Bernie Sanders and Nancy poloski for example. Even members of the Democratic party are saying they are going to lose if they keep up the Trump bashing instead of campaigning on the issues.

no photo
Mon 08/06/18 08:08 AM
Unless they can find something, anything that can be tied to Trump he is getting a second term. How can people pretend that they are not aware of what the biased media is doing. "Fake News" in not only blatant lies. It is the constant negative stories no matter how trivial. It is the Michael Moore style of reporting, the lying by omission, the just enough information to support the agenda.

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Mon 08/06/18 10:09 AM
Personally, I think all political party affiliation is childish.
I think we should vote for AND support the one that does what it is we elected them to do in the first place, represent the people of the nation, all the people.
Party affiliation and the bullshiat that goes along with it breaks the unity of the UNITED States. It puts us in turmoil, its evident, just look at the mess we made.

no photo
Tue 08/07/18 12:27 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Tue 08/07/18 12:31 AM
Hum? I keep reading and hearing all this crap about media bias/fake news and all this other crap. As far as the "public" Trump goes, he is always opening his mouth and inserting his foot. He's constantly making a fool of himself on the world stage.

Most of the time he does it right out in front so everyone can see it. When you are in the public eye like Trump is, and you are constantly "tweeting" and saying things for millions of people to read every day, the media picks up on it and reports it.

How could that bias when they are reporting exactly what he said on "twitter" or right in front of a room full of reporters with cameras running How can all be faults/fake news when most of it is right out of his own mouth? How could it be lies when he either "tweeted" it or said something in front of a camera?

I'm neither a Dem or Rep. I'm somewhere in the middle. But, I know a dirty man when I see one. And this guy has proved it out of his own mouth. To me, simply because of the "persona" he puts forward for the world to see, that in its self is enough to turn me off with him.

When you add on what comes out of his mouth for everyone to read and hear, that "is" enough for me. What a man speaks can either give life or death. I hear a lot of death coming out of this man's mouth. A lot of lying to try to cover up other lies. A lot of back peddling and deflecting.

If it wasn't for all this dirt that he shovels onto himself, I might be OK with him. If he held the office of president with dignity and pride, I might think a little different. But he doesn't. He gets on the world stage and makes a mockery of it with what comes out of his mouth.

One last thing. Trump is a rich man's president. He's already proven that too. Tariff this, tariff that. gas and food prices climbing. Wages are stagnant. A rich man's president that could care less about you or me.

It has nothing to do with Dem or Rep. It's the "man" and what he stands for. He certainly doesn't stand for you or me. If you believe he does, you will believe anything.


Easttowest72's photo
Tue 08/07/18 12:40 AM
On the news yesterday they were showing bikers talking politics at Sturgis. They stood with the president over Harley Davidson, who just received a huge tax cut. They said the average biker there made $95,000 and 70% were home owners. Middle class people seem to be Trump's biggest supporters.

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/07/18 12:52 AM

On the news yesterday they were showing bikers talking politics at Sturgis. They stood with the president over Harley Davidson, who just received a huge tax cut. They said the average biker there made $95,000 and 70% were home owners. Middle class people seem to be Trump's biggest supporters.


some upper middle class bikers in sturgis are not necessarily the representative for all the middle class.


msharmony's photo
Tue 08/07/18 12:55 AM


McCain is very sick.
I know. He has brain cancer. Its sad, but he is so inspirational. HBO produced a documentary about him recently. Love him.


I did like that he didnt engage in trash talk and name calling and corrected others when they did it. I think he and Obama were on equal footing in those areas.


Easttowest72's photo
Tue 08/07/18 01:46 AM


On the news yesterday they were showing bikers talking politics at Sturgis. They stood with the president over Harley Davidson, who just received a huge tax cut. They said the average biker there made $95,000 and 70% were home owners. Middle class people seem to be Trump's biggest supporters.


some upper middle class bikers in sturgis are not necessarily the representative for all the middle class.




No but the point is Harley Davidson didn't turn them against our President. It seems to have backfired because the said they could always buy another type of bike. Harleys buyers have the type of money to afford a price increase (if the tax cut didn't make up the difference in the tarriffs).
I think most middle class Americans are happy with their new tax cuts and bonuses. The added jobs to the area reduce stress and has slightly driven up wages.
The people who are against Trump seem to fit into categories of being people of color, gays, and anyone struggling in need of govt help.

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/07/18 11:04 AM



On the news yesterday they were showing bikers talking politics at Sturgis. They stood with the president over Harley Davidson, who just received a huge tax cut. They said the average biker there made $95,000 and 70% were home owners. Middle class people seem to be Trump's biggest supporters.


some upper middle class bikers in sturgis are not necessarily the representative for all the middle class.




No but the point is Harley Davidson didn't turn them against our President. It seems to have backfired because the said they could always buy another type of bike. Harleys buyers have the type of money to afford a price increase (if the tax cut didn't make up the difference in the tarriffs).
I think most middle class Americans are happy with their new tax cuts and bonuses. The added jobs to the area reduce stress and has slightly driven up wages.
The people who are against Trump seem to fit into categories of being people of color, gays, and anyone struggling in need of govt help.


the people who are against Trump are in many categories. I know plenty of retired people who are NONE of the above who do not support him. They express their discontent with his divisiveness, childishness, disconnect from anyone but the wealthy, and seeming animosity towards everyone else.



Easttowest72's photo
Tue 08/07/18 11:26 AM




On the news yesterday they were showing bikers talking politics at Sturgis. They stood with the president over Harley Davidson, who just received a huge tax cut. They said the average biker there made $95,000 and 70% were home owners. Middle class people seem to be Trump's biggest supporters.


some upper middle class bikers in sturgis are not necessarily the representative for all the middle class.




Retired people who clearly didn't plan well for retirement. :thinking:

No but the point is Harley Davidson didn't turn them against our President. It seems to have backfired because the said they could always buy another type of bike. Harleys buyers have the type of money to afford a price increase (if the tax cut didn't make up the difference in the tarriffs).
I think most middle class Americans are happy with their new tax cuts and bonuses. The added jobs to the area reduce stress and has slightly driven up wages.
The people who are against Trump seem to fit into categories of being people of color, gays, and anyone struggling in need of govt help.


the people who are against Trump are in many categories. I know plenty of retired people who are NONE of the above who do not support him. They express their discontent with his divisiveness, childishness, disconnect from anyone but the wealthy, and seeming animosity towards everyone else.




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Tue 08/07/18 11:36 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 08/07/18 11:52 AM
The Democratic platform, what they stand for, is too libral and not a good thing for this Country. Socialism can destroy a Country.
Ideas and beliefs that govern that party.

It's about the polititianss, who make laws and control this Country.

The people should put those in office, who put Americans first.

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/08/18 08:32 AM
which part of the platform is 'not a good thing'?

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

Workin4it's photo
Sun 08/12/18 07:37 AM

which part of the platform is 'not a good thing'?

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

The democrat part. Their platform is like balsa wood , weak and very unstable. Kinda like their last president and his cabinet of fools.

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/12/18 01:30 PM
wow. so sad. okay.

I wont hold my breath on anyone actually KNOWING any thing about the actual DNC platform chiming in on which bits are harmful.



Workin4it's photo
Mon 08/13/18 06:57 AM

wow. so sad. okay.

I wont hold my breath on anyone actually KNOWING any thing about the actual DNC platform chiming in on which bits are harmful.



I know what their platform is even though when confronted, democrats won't be specific. For example ... Democrats want unlimited abortion policy. Yes or no?
Democrats unanimously voted against tax cuts. Yes or no.
Democrats don't want to build a wall, leaving our border unprotected in some spots. Yes or no?
Democrats want to abolish Ice. Yes or no?
Democrats have yet to push back against anti free speech on our college campus's. Yes or no?
I find these things harmful. If I mid-stated anything please correct. But this is what I see dem. polititions saying.

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