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Nov 04 2017 posted to Aliens & UFOs
Did Humanity Shoot First During First Contact? Battle Of Los Angeles UFO Sighting

Did Humanity Shoot First During First Contact? Battle Of Los Angeles UFO Sighting

If you ask people about the first major UFO encounter in the US, the answer is in most cases, Roswell.

Most people (even including UFO enthusiasts) forget about the famous battle of Los Angeles UFO encounter back in 1942.

That UFO encounter may score less on the UFO popularity scale.

However, this event could be much more critical for the future of our planet and human civilization.

The Roswell UFO crash story comes down to the fact that an extraterrestrial vehicle malfunctioned and crashed to earth. Humanity was not to blame for the cause of the crash.

Original vintage video footage of the event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=vzYSJB6GkXY

Did humanity shoot first during the first contact?

On the 24th of February of 1942 however (right after the start of WW2), we might have had a true first contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence... and the US army decided to answer that invite with more than 1,400 anti-aircraft shells.

Air raid sirens sounded throughout Los Angeles when an unidentified object invaded the guarded airspace. Numerous searchlights were aimed at the object while the anti-aircraft guns were blazing.

Some people may have heard about this sighting, very few know that there is actual footage of this event. It shows the searchlights aiming for the object while 12.8-pound anti-aircraft shells are flying through the air. In the focus area of the searchlight, we can see a saucer-shaped aircraft.

If this was a real first contact with a UFO, we sure made a great impression.

There is a big difference between UFO and ET. UFOs are simply that, unknown aircraft. Could be anything, could be nothing, who knows.

That certainly wasn't humanity's first contact with ET. Contact with ET dates back even before the pyramids and Biblical times. Quite possibly aliens have been in contact with us since the beginning of our time.

Government says , weather balloon , so uhm , i now want to either be in the little black box or a weather balloon : )

you can see it better when they shift from tecno color to black and white

and i agree , i was not saying it was first contact , that was there comment not mine , and if the readings i have read, paintings, statues etc etc etc are right , yes since before time began for us earth bound humans

Honestly, I think there's a lot of weird physical things out there because there is a spiritual world, and the two worlds are normally supposed to be separate, but they are connected.

It would make sense to me that God and other powerful spiritual beings have influenced Earth and man even before time as we know it.

Well, in the 57 years I have lived ...
0 aliens
0 angels
0 demons
0 ghosts
0 bigfoot
0 chupacabra
0 Nessie
0 leprechauns
0 boogiemen
0 vampires
0 werewolves
0 miracles
0 curses
0 mind readers
0 levitation
0 telekinesis
a partial premonition that could have been simple chance.

I have met a lot of completely deluded or insane people tho.

lucky you , or unlucky you , i guess it all depends on how ya look at it
i myself have been around and seen a lot of things i can not explain
and i try to keep an open mind on all things

but there are some people where a ufo could land in there front yard and an e.t. could come out and shake there hand and get back in there ufo and fly away and if you asked them they would say "nothing happen" or maybe a "weird dream"
<shrug>

Really no ghosts? Some ghosts haven't even passed over yet

That's why I believe it's spiritual, some people are blinded and do not see the spiritual realm, some are open to it and see it. As you said, some can have an encounter and deny it, while others see the encounter and accept it. This is what makes it so difficult to actually prove.

Ghosts are rogue, they have passed and should not be here in the physical realm, but they are here. That alone is bad news, whether they actually mean harm or not they are pretty much outlaws just for being here.

Don't be fooled by familiar spirits, these are more dangerous than the ones that are obviously here to harm us. If you encounter one and it seems like a good experience, be very worried.

It is strictly forbidden for spirits to interact with the living, but that law is often broken, and it's never a good thing.

I have a very vivid imagination. I love fictional books and movies.
My favorite movies are science fiction and fantasy.
I find horror films amusing.

Thing is, I want aliens to exist on this planet.
I want ghosts to exist.
It would be cool to see an angel or a demon.
Would love to encounter a bigfoot or chupacabra.
Just once I would like to see true levitation or actual mind reading.

I haven't witnessed these things because they don't exist in reality.
I can let my imagination run wild and super-impose these things over things I don't understand fully but the reality always seems to find its way to the surface.
Show me a ghost. Let me experience a haunting or a manifestation of spirit. I've looked. There is always a perfectly normal explanation.
If an alien landed its craft (its not a ufo if I know its a space ship because it is identified) and come out and shake my hand.
I'd be happy to just witness an alien space craft where there is no doubt as to what it is.

All the so-called evidence and testimony is worthless as proof.
I know what can be done with photoshop and video. I also know that people can lie convincingly when they believe the lies they are telling. I also know that delusions are hard to distinguish from reality sometimes.


There are way too many physical properties for ghosts to exist.

Do Aliens believe in ghosts?
Do Ghosts believe in Aliens?
Does bigfoot believe in ghosts?
Does Nessie believe in Aliens?
Do Chupacabra believe in ghosts?
Do ghosts believe in the mothman?

Do ghosts go to the bathroom?
If ghosts have sex do they have boo babies?
Is there an ectoplasm form of coffee for the morning ghosts?
Why don't ghosts in the street follow you home?
Ghosts don't like Walmart. Even poltergeist won't go there.
I have heard about ghost dogs but never a ghost walrus.
Has anyone ever seen a blind ghost with a ghost cane?

Gravity exists even at the atomic level. Even the air is affected by gravity.
I am expected to believe that a whisp of essence can manipulate gravity.

Odors are molecules that are detected when those molecules come into contact with olfactory cells and the signal is sent to the brain.
Many people tell of encounters that are accompanied by foul odors. They associate the foul odor with what they think they encountered.

Sounds are a frequency of vibration. A vibration of matter in a medium that can propagate the wave to your ears.
For an essence to notice a dish breaking requires that somehow the sound vibrations caused the entity's bones in its ears to vibrate. Which relays that signal to its ghostly brain and initiates a response.

You see only reflections of light waves on your eyes. There must be something physically there to reflect the prism to your eyes.
Light is a spectrum when reflected to your retinas. You see colors because absorption and reflection removes color frequencies in different degrees. There has to be something there for light to emit from or be reflected by or you will not see anything. Sound is one example of this. You don't see music because there is nothing physical there for light to reflect to your eyes. Seeing anything requires a light reflection from something. We "feel" sound because it propagates a thru the atmosphere so its not really the sound you feel but the atmosphere being transmitted to your touch sensors. If there is no atmosphere you not only do not hear sound, you can't feel it either. There is no sound in space.

Temperature is the speed at which something moves. Absolute Zero is no movement at all, thus the term frozen.
Many people will tell you they feel a cold spot or a hot spot when describing their encounter. Temperature is movement of molecules or atoms. Movement of matter. A thought has no temperature because it is not matter. I can walk thru any space and detect differences in temperature. Perhaps the one having the encounter is just in tune with their senses from fear or excitement and notices temperature deviations at a greater degree than usual?

Our human minds create feelings and senses from stimuli and experience. Understanding is by association. If the mind presets the associations we feel, sense what we choose.
If you expect the negative you readily see negative things. If you expect a ghost you will see ghosts if your mind is conditioned to expect them.

Everything in the Universe is comprised of energy. Even thought and our sense of self. Energy is not a bonding essence. Each point of energy exists of itself.
Science cannot determine a single energy component like an atom of matter. It acknowledges saturation of energy in a value over time but it can't state what a single energy is, like an enron or something. Since we know that quarks, leptons and bosons have movement an electron is not the smallest essence of energy.
For a person to become a force of energy a coherence must be formed that keeps the individual pieces of energy together and moving freely in a natural environment. Basically a Tesla arc that can manipulate its form and is of normal temperature range.

I'm not making fun I am just stating obvious things from the real world.
I know that people who think they encountered a ghost truly believe they did.
All I'm saying is that when I do go to that haunted house with them and sit and wait so I can see what they saw I always leave with nothing new to consider.

I agree, however, there are things which hold as facts that require no belief to make it so. There are some that believe so strongly that their beliefs create a reality that is not fact.
Less Nessman's imaginary office is a great example.
To encounter such evidence will change my core permanently.

Proof of a ghost would initiate an attempt to study it to understand the mechanisms which make it possible. The fact that we have encountered no properties that could cause a ghost, no science at all, is overwhelming evidence that they do not exist.

Take it like a person that has never experienced night terrors.
They suspect that night terrors might happen but they always happen to someone else.
There is no proof that they are actually night terrors except for what the person relays to them.
No matter how detailed the accounting, the acceptance of the tale still seems delusional.
So they try to have a night terror and no matter what they try, it just won't happen for them.
They see the terrified reactions others have when they happen but there is no real proof anything happened at all.
Science can examine the person's brain and body and find nothing out of place.
Shrinks can council and advise the person and sometimes they find relief "within themselves" by understanding what is triggering the emotional turmoil.
Sometimes, despite counseling, night terrors continue because 'within', the turmoil that causes the emotional issue has not been resolved.
I see it as an outsider witnessing someones delusions. I seek to understand rather than experience their delusions. To fully understand, I would need to experience a night terror to have some kind of reference.

So, if I believe in ghosts, I'll see one?
Perhaps if I am deluded.
If I believe in Godzilla I will see him?

For the next two weeks believe that you are eating but never actually take a bite.
When you get hungry, just believe that you are full.
Have a little faith that you are full. Have a lot of faith that you are full.
It won't change the fact of reality that you are starving. No matter what you believe.

You see ghosts.
Someone else sees leprechauns.
Another sees demons.
Another sees fairies.
At what point does the delusion become reality?
What if 50 people see ghosts? 1,000 people see ghosts?
1,000 people saw a monster burn a village. It turned people to stone.
1,000 other people saw a terrible volcano.
Ask the ones that saw a monster and they can relate the awful details.
Some will agree that it must be a monster.
They buy into the delusion on faith.

Perhaps you do see ghosts and take comfort in your religion.
I really have no problem with that.
As long as you are content with your life, who am I to criticize?
Its your life, just like mine is my life.
Nobody lives behind your eyes but you.

All the so-called evidence and testimony is worthless as proof.
I know what can be done with photoshop and video.

this was way before photo shop
as well as many other's that i can point out

Early WW II "Foo Fighters" were seen and photographed in many places around the world.
Those L.A. AA guns must have been useless if they couldn't bring down a weather balloon.
So much traditional knowledge of star systems and 'alien' beings out there.
Maybe like dowsing, some can see and do, and some can't.

I think a better question is how did they miss hitting a weather balloon when shooting at it for almost an hour?

I can point out that Forrest Gump interacted with President Lyndon Johnson.
On this visit, Forrest meets President Lyndon Johnson, who asks Forrest where he was wounded. Forrest tells President Johnson, “In the buttocks”. President Johnson then asks to see the wound and Forrest lowers his trousers and moons the President.

Half of The Wizard of OZ is black & white and half is color. That was done in 1939. Video manipulation technology has been around for a long time.
90% of documentaries are geared to play on peoples fear and wonder. They often ask more questions than they answer.
Anyone remember the viking warrior that turned out to be a woman warrior?
Historians get it wrong sometimes and other times, they record inaccuracies to fit the culture at the time.

There's a certain amount of reasoning that has to be considered.
An alien culture that is technologically advanced enough to exceed light speed to travel the great distances between stars would have the ability to deflect space debris at those high speeds. Their ability to manuver would need to be precise and nearly instantaneos. Not only would our artillary be slow and inconsequentail, even if we managed to hit them there would be little or no damage.

I have also seen a bunch of frightened men empty their clips into nothing because someone 'thought' they saw something. Had they hit anything in their wall of bullets, there would be evidence of it laying on the ground when they were done.
The fact that there is never any evidence found that can be inspected is evidence that there was nothing there in the first place.
Neil deGrasse Tyson said in a video something to the effect of:
If you are abducted by an alien, grab something, anything from their ship.
It doesn't matter what it is, it will be something we have never seen before.

What gets people all worked up is the "U" in UFO.
"Unidentified" means the observer can't identify it.
What people don't grasp is that when they say it was a UFO and assume it must be aliens, they are identifying it as an alien flying object. It is no longer a UFO because it is identified. It doesn't matter if its identified accurately.
We have a cultural delusion that makes people automatically think a UFO is an alien craft.
Why is that?

I don't think the military would start shooting at nothing over a major city... Something was there, just not sure what... One thing the Japs wete doing during the war was attaching bombs to balloons and letting the winds carry them over here... That could have been what they were shooting at...

I've thought about the phenomenon of misunderstanding what we experience and I have an example that pertains to me.

I have no idea how a computer does what it does.
How ones and zeros become pictures, music and video?
If I didn't know there was science behind it, I would think it was magic.
As far as I'm concerned, it is magic.
It will be magic unless I learn computer language (binary).
I will then need to learn how to write code.
I will then need to learn how processors work, how ciruits are built.
I don't need to know this stuff to use my computer.
The magic just happens and I accept it as that.

If someone "in the field" of computer programming tries to explain to me what is happening, what it is. I put up a wall because its easier for me to just think of it as magic.

The main difference is that computers exist. You can take one apart and look at it. It exists even when it is not plugged in. You can take a detailed picture of it and show someone and they might not believe it exists. You can take a real unedited video of one in operation and people might not believe it exists. For someone that has never seen or used a computer before, to describe what it does or what it looks like will sound like a fantasy, like describing magic.
Since computers DO exist, I can give that person a computer and teach them how to use it.

Give me something (anything) of alien origin and let me hold it in my hand.


it IS IMPORTANT that we consider the time and conditions of when this event occurred. It is important to note that at that time, we were expecting 'something' to happen and it did. We were watching the skies for an attack.

An interaction of this magnitude would be witnessed by thousands of people. The fact that it is supposedly 'covered up' indicates that this accounting is not the true accounting, otherwise it would remain fixed in our public knowledge.

Seriously, if our military took action against an alien presence in a city, that would forever confirm the existence of aliens on Earth. It would be written into history and taught in classrooms all over the world.

the government won't tell us about aliens untill they land on the white house lawn...maybe not even then

What is the point of that kind of thinking?
What could the gov't have to gain from such a secret and how much work would it require to maintain that secret?
It makes no sense at all.

If aliens did come to this planet, many people world-wide would know it.
It would be all over the media and the words on everyone's lips.
The gov't doesn't control people with telescopes.
Why anyone would think that aliens, which traveled here from vast distances, would secretly seek out only government officials when they land. Plus, who says they even need to land at all? We have satellites that can look at people from orbit. I'm sure an alien that travels between the stars will have something just a lil bit better.

The unknown scares the hell out of people.
The whole UFO/Alien phenomenon is a fear based reaction to the unknown.

they won't (well unless the rumors are real about the next major battle excuse will be from the e.t.'s)

i used to think it was cause they worried about people tripping out
cause a lot would : ( but not all, as i went deeper in to it there are a lot of people that there back round in religion talk about it

i think its more about the money , why pay millions on a house in d.c. (taxes) when you could just fly to where ever and live there <shrug> as well as the money they make off selling gas, and all the jobs that go with it
not to mention the evil people in the world , would you really want those people off world ?

then ya get in to the Barney and Betty abduction and the star map that we didn't even have the tec to see that far out or deep in space

Foo Fighters
as well as many others (i am not going to type them all out , i would be here for days if not months)

i do laugh a lot about when people say "oh, well, its just to far away, it's just not possible" to me that point is moot, just a short time ago we couldn't cross the earth in a day (before plains)so looking at a civilization that is thousands if not millions of years a head of us could look like magic (don't remember who coined that)

"oh well i have not seen them , so they must be fake "
i myself have not seen air,but am thank full its there with every breath i take : )

i have never seen toxic air ,but know not to breath it

i have never seen gravity either, but i believe in that one as well

"oh well its all fear based"
incorrect , not all the encounters have been

"oh well they couldn't keep it secret"
if you start researching things (not just ufo's / et's), you will find out all kinds of stuff that has been kept secret for a long time by are governments ...that stayed hidden for a long time but is slowly leaking out

even the guy that the government had to debunk the u.f.o. / e.t.'s became a believer (forgot his name, it's been to long since i thought about it) 1940's / 1950's was from the first projects to search in to ufo sightings and what not (i want to say its the same guy that made up the levels of et encounters , but i really cant remember)

now with that all being said , do i say all sightings are real .... sadly no ... there are to many that want fame out of it, as well as money they can make off of it, as well as the people that think its funny cause they played a prank on someone as well as many other reasons <shrug>

the aliens don't scare me...the government covering it up scares me