I have too many of my own sins to deal with to worry about things that may or may not be sin for another person. Homosexuality is not a problem for me.

MsHarmony...I am sure you speak into other's lives all the time in the face to face world, as the Word of God dwells within us. Not all conversations have to refer to the Bible. You can speak it's wisdom, without all the weird "In Galatians 49:14 it says ....".
That instantly shuts the majority down, in a heartfelt conversation, most believe the Bible is a fabricated work by men trying to control the populace of their day.
Most, but not all.

Thank you. I actually am a quiet person in real time, finding it much more 'natural' to listen, than to speak.

Oh, I love to catch stranger's eyes and chat about everything and anything lol. My daughter used to hate shopping with me.

haaa, I have family like that too. Perhaps it is why I ended up so quiet, always listening to them.

Everyone on earth is "Religious" including yourself.

Once a person thinks a certain way, its almost impossible to convince em'

Not really.


Why would you try?

The primary teachers of morals is supposed to be the parents.
In society other interactions thru life also teach morals.
People gain morality mostly from their parents during their learning years but after adulthood is reached we gain morality by understanding the world in which we exist.

As an adult, no single teacher convinces us morality as a whole.
We learn it by observation, assessment, experience and guidance as we gain wisdom.

Morality is not isolated to religion. Religion might be the foundation of someones morality but we gain morality anytime we interact with another person, a group of people, a society, a culture, a nation and even ourselves.

It is.... absolutely it is..... and yet, when I was much younger, I have been hit on by numerous Evangelist clergy, Baptist clergy, and Catholic clergy... pissed me off to no end... bunch a hypocrites if you ask me...

each one started by adjusting his pants....then I knew it was coming, the question... "ever thought of being with a man before"??? Schitt, really???...(shakes head)...

judgmental as well, especially the evangelists...

Athiesm is a religion. It has certain belief systems, generally if they dont believe in Jesus who is God or rather some other pagan false god, then they are in a sense humanists. It in itself in a sense is a religion. They are their own gods and think they are yours also, lol, they want to be worshiped, look at me sing, look at my movies at how great I am, lol! I could go on forever with this in detail... Politicians who rule over everyone LIKE GOD and the Catholic Pope who thinks he not only is god, but is Gods superior!

I know people like this. Its almost scary. There is nothing that can be done, no matter how much proof. If someone is evil, you dont just say, Ahh who cares, they think how they think. You cant gain morality with a world that is immoral. People cant make up morals, that is what Jesus is for. Most rules and Laws like rape, theft and murder in all countries come from God himself. It seems to come natural for people to want to break every law God/Jesus has.

While there are people like that in the world it is a slanted view. Having a belief in anything is not being religious, its merely having a belief. Religion requires some sort of doctrine to be followed.
Religions are societies but societies are not necessarily religions. Two or more friends in agreement can be a society.

One of the aspects I find interesting about dating site community forums is the fact that some people are alone and isolated.
There are some that hold onto their religion and some who do not follow any religion.
An Atheist - a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
An Agnostic - a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Atheists and agnostics do not follow religious doctrine so they are not religious.
The definitions you cite describe Narcissists.
A Narcissist - a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.
Narcissism is most prevalent in religious fanaticism.
One being proud of their accomplishments is not necessarily narcissism.

Mingle 2 is a worldwide social site geared for dating.
The M2 forums is a mix of people with different beliefs and personal situations.
Dating and social acceptance requires a bit of self-proclamation because each candidate needs to stand out from the norm to be noticed. Kinda like bird dance or nest building.
It a mating process to attract a mate.
The behavior is not narcissistic but it can be.


I agree there are immoral people in the world.
This is because I base these observations on my own moral fortitude.
Its an individual slanted view which I control.
There are almost 8 billion other views of morality that I don't control.
While many share some of my morality nobody exactly matches me.
The trick to finding the right people to be close to is to find those who match the closest to your own morality.
Its not religion, its pair-bonding and mate selection.

I do agree religion had a lot to do with society's laws of morality.
However, any society will eventually adopt morality laws in favor of unity.
This is because like religions, society thrives on unity.

Believe it or not there are many people living in actual isolation.
No longer practicing religion and no longer part of society.
They do have their different beliefs and morals which guide them.
They may believe in your God, their God or no God at all.
Some are angry, some are sad and some are indifferent.
Some are content just to be alive.
Some anticipate the final sleep.
Some detest having existed at all.

Religion forces its moral code on all others.
It steals authority over one's own life and places it in others control.
Society forces its moral code on all others.
It steals authority over one's own life and places it in others control.

Sexual preference is a personal preference.
I have no business dictating how others feel about personal preferences.
Religion tends to violate that personal boundary in many ways, not just sexual preference.
Their authority doesn't come from actual experience but from faith in the words of a book.
Wisdom and morality comes from experience.
Experiences which are lived, not read about in a book.

Coercion is a common word for being forced against one's will. to compel or restrain by force or authority without regard to individual wishes or desires; to compel by force or intimidation.

Religions attempt to use coercion to force someone to make person decisions so it can create/cause unity. It threatens those who refuse to conform to their doctrine. It ignores/threatens individual preference. Homosexuality is just the tip of a much larger iceberg.

Religion requires some sort of doctrine to be followed?

Sexual preference is a personal preference?

Religion forces its moral code on all others?

Elaborate... Who said that specifically? As for me personally, I dont rely on a church building to teach me about the bible. Those church buildings or should I say Denominations to me are nothing more than a youtube video chef, with a person like yourself trying to cook food at home and you dont necessarily take all thier advide at heart when they want to add poison to you eggs.

Telling the truth about the bible is why Jehovah Witness no longer come to my home. My brother and I exposed them like there was no tomorrow. No need for vulgar words, just look up why they are wrong on a search engine like Bing and give them a bible quote.

I myself will only listen to 7th day Adventists, like from Amazing Discoveries... This site here https://amazingdiscoveries.tv/c/1/Total_Onslaught/ They have many lengthy videos. I dont listen to them simply because they are SDA's, I listen to them because what they say holds truth. I only found them on youtube like 2 years ago out of pure chance I guess you could say.