Topic: I'm not a racist, but...
msharmony's photo
Tue 02/11/20 08:08 AM

Can I be racist against my own kind ?

Like in the same way it's OK for gay folk to tell gay jokes, but not straights.

Because I'm from white European (which includes all UK) stock, but there are so many of that particular type who really pi55 me off, and I avoid them, and hate having to deal with them or even listen to them talk.

Sounds like classic racism to me, but is it;

aren't I allowed to hate myself and my extended family ?



lol. It is not uncommon. Often times it is those afflicted with self hatred that are the favorite tokens of those who are bigots. They are the 'exceptions' and are quickly embraced to validate the views of the bigots outside of their demographic as proof that they are not REALLY being bigoted, but just 'honest'.

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Wed 03/04/20 07:03 AM
smokin

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Wed 03/04/20 07:06 AM
A grand entrance m8:smile:

ivegotthegirth's photo
Wed 03/04/20 07:49 AM


I think dirt track midget racing,
is far better than stock car racing.





I know what ya mean it's like comparing throughbred racing to quarter horse racing


I raced stock cars very successfully for 4 years at the only paved track in my state and I can tell you it's the second best time I've had in my 63 years. AND I can tell you that racing any kind of open wheel car is a whole other game. I passed on an opportunity to drive a good one, this when I was still 10 feet tall and bulletproof at about 28. Open wheeler's are multiple times more dangerous!

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Wed 03/04/20 12:19 PM

A grand entrance m8:smile:

No messing around bro, that's the way I roll.smokin bigsmile

mzrosie's photo
Wed 03/04/20 02:41 PM
Welcome back, Sir Dino. You'd been missed flowerforyou drinker

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Thu 03/05/20 01:24 AM

Welcome back, Sir Dino. You'd been missed flowerforyou drinker

Thanks Rosie, my hero, I appreciate that..


Worle's photo
Fri 03/06/20 05:46 AM
i don't agree with the middle ground bit. Of course there are degrees.
Compare scenario 1, where someone goes out and shoots people because of their race, and scenario 2 where someone jumps to the aid of someone a little quicker because they look and sound more like them....both by definition are acts of racism. Clearly different ball park.

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Fri 03/06/20 05:50 AM

i don't agree with the middle ground bit. Of course there are degrees.
Compare scenario 1, where someone goes out and shoots people because of their race, and scenario 2 where someone jumps to the aid of someone a little quicker because they look and sound more like them....both by definition are acts of racism. Clearly different ball park.

If they are both acts of Racism then there you have an answer.. No middle ground, simple as. Doesn't matter the scenario at all if it's based on racial issues.

oldkid46's photo
Fri 03/06/20 06:58 AM
What seems to be missing is the difference between being racially insensitive and a racist. Often times people are defined as racist because they do not understand how what they said or did is viewed by some minority group as racist or demeaning. It is in the perception by the minority group not the reality of what was said or done.

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Fri 03/06/20 07:05 AM
Being ignorant to the fact that you are racist does not a non racist make..smokin

oldkid46's photo
Fri 03/06/20 09:35 AM

Being ignorant to the fact that you are racist does not a non racist make..smokin
so you are knowledgeable about how Native Americans feel about comments regarding the original English settlers to America? You are obviously better educated than most of us!

Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Fri 03/06/20 01:20 PM


Being ignorant to the fact that you are racist does not a non racist make..smokin
so you are knowledgeable about how Native Americans feel about comments regarding the original English settlers to America? You are obviously better educated than most of us!

I'm not claiming to be better anything than anyone else, maybe you can enlighten me about those English settlers, we have our own here in Ireland, but I'll hold my comments about then for now..smokin

darkowl1's photo
Fri 03/06/20 02:04 PM
I have never gotten a speeding ticket in all my years of this life or any others.




and I love all humans. they really are an amazing bunch.... but I noticed that some don't like me because I don't go fast enough on the Interstate.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/06/20 10:47 PM
LOL. Racism is not so much about perspective. It is what it is. If it is a choice or prejudgement of ANY individual which is based only in their race, it is racist. The issue is that it is all placed in a negative box as if it is all the same, when there are different degrees and contexts, all based in prejudgment, but not all with an intention or thought that anyone is better or worse than anyone else, just different from.

I confuse people when I admit to being 'sexist', with that same definition. I do, in fact, thing males and females are and should be different from each other. I do not believe those differences mean that either one is better or worse than the other. I am very much embracing of 'gender roles." because I think males and females are best when the complement each other, instead of duplicating or competing with each other.


Sir Dino One Love β˜οΈπŸ’š's photo
Sat 03/07/20 12:52 AM
There are terms for people that have gave up religion like "Lapsed. and Non Practising" can the same be used for Racists? Or do they have to fully switch over to being a non racist or former Racist? smokin

oldkid46's photo
Sat 03/07/20 06:00 AM

LOL. Racism is not so much about perspective. It is what it is. If it is a choice or prejudgement of ANY individual which is based only in their race, it is racist. The issue is that it is all placed in a negative box as if it is all the same, when there are different degrees and contexts, all based in prejudgment, but not all with an intention or thought that anyone is better or worse than anyone else, just different from.

I confuse people when I admit to being 'sexist', with that same definition. I do, in fact, thing males and females are and should be different from each other. I do not believe those differences mean that either one is better or worse than the other. I am very much embracing of 'gender roles." because I think males and females are best when the complement each other, instead of duplicating or competing with each other.


I'll at least agree with you on racism. When I used the term of someone's perspective, it was in regard to the judgement that what someone else did or said was racist and therefore he/she was racist. You have it right when you refer to the prejudgement of someone based on their race. It is that prejudgement that is discriminatory and applies not only to race but also to religion, nationality, and most any other commonality that describes a demographic group.

LarchTree's photo
Sat 03/07/20 07:03 AM
Edited by LarchTree on Sat 03/07/20 07:04 AM
This is the 21st century, so we all ought to be able to survive. We all contribute some kind of good to the gene pool. With the exception of the computers, we are all animals. We are connected to the environment and communities of the Earth.

Again and again I meet black folk with amazing social communication and strong as iron. White folk can be those things too, but on average, black folk are better at them.

If you have a community of blacks with only one white, that is a problem. There needs to be at least one other white person; it facilitates engaging with the community when conversations are black-black, black-white, and white-white. There are other opposing traits besides black and white. A group of four people generally collaborates most effectively, and I believe this is in part because of the finding of different lines of communication with similarities and differences within the group.

If blacks are a minority in a community, then it is okay if they have a blacks-only club. If whites are a majority, a whites-only club serves no purpose; in a white majority community, it is not hard for whites to congregate.

We are the same species. But even if we weren’t the same species, to be able to communicate with a different species, wouldn’t that be awesome?

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/07/20 10:26 PM

There are terms for people that have gave up religion like "Lapsed. and Non Practising" can the same be used for Racists? Or do they have to fully switch over to being a non racist or former Racist? smokin



I like the term 'recovering racist', like they use for alcoholism and drugs.

notbeold's photo
Sun 03/08/20 04:55 AM
Isn't road rage / car park anger often necessarily racist.

Since in some regions there are often certain types of people who mostly can't drive the same way as everyone else does in that area.

Certain groups are timid and slow and panic and take forever.
Certain groups are over confident and inattentive and can't seem to steer in a straight line.
Certain groups got their licence through their cousin, and never did learn road rules properly.
And so on. Not old drivers, they are just old.

When I see a bad driver / parker, I see who it is, and think - 'typical', because it is typical.

People of all types are bad drivers, no doubt about that, but it's always these certain types that catch my attention and stand out. Regularly.

The ones who got their licence out of a corn flakes packet.