Topic: I'm not a racist, but...
Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Mon 02/03/20 01:34 AM

Growing up in Boston, I learned about racial hatred first in the hospital from some nurses and doctors, later from my relatives and people in general. But it was the overall treatment by the hospital staff towards me, as a mixed race kid, that made it hard for me to condemn all white people, and it was easy to understand that in every race of people there is good and evil! Period.

Thanks for the input Rich, much appreciated.. Stay blessed.

Andycoins's photo
Wed 02/05/20 03:09 PM

Hmmm.. We each have a preference, and that's yours, some things said in that context are nothing but racism in my opinion.
[Luckily thats just your opinion,also YOUR right to freedom of speech,just as much as the ladies response.]

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Wed 02/05/20 03:22 PM


Hmmm.. We each have a preference, and that's yours, some things said in that context are nothing but racism in my opinion.
[Luckily thats just your opinion,also YOUR right to freedom of speech,just as much as the ladies response.]

Thanks so much for pointing that out to me.. All responses are appreciated..ohwell

markc48's photo
Wed 02/05/20 03:28 PM
I'm not a racist. But I don't have to prove it.

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Wed 02/05/20 03:37 PM

I'm not a racist. But I don't have to prove it.


smokin

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 02/05/20 04:15 PM
The Census Bureau defines race as a person's self-identification with one or more social groups.
Racism =
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

In dating/mate selection 'choosing' is a preference based on individual assumptions or general observations of others having similar traits.
The choice or preference doesn't make you a racist. What you do or say based on that choice is what makes you a racist, or not.

I see people as people until 'they' make it about race. My mating preference has nothing to do with it. I choose from my race first but that doesn't mean I believe anyone from other races are inferior, I just have no experience with the other races in intimacy. I also choose from my own class. Not because I believe lower classes or higher classes are inferior but because all my experience is with middle class. I choose what I know and understand.
You choose who you want, it makes no difference to me as long as they don't disrupt my contentment.

If there is a gang of druggies in the local park acting like savages, it makes no difference what race they are - I'm not gunna want to be in the park. I'm not gunna take my kid to that park.

Discrimination is not going to end until EVERYONE stops making a big thing about it. It doesn't matter if yer defending or attacking, as long as it has a focus, it will continue.

We're all people. Everybody breathes, everybody eats, everybody poops, everybody bleeds and yes, EVERYBODY dies.
Yes, even Trump poops.

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Wed 02/05/20 09:55 PM

The Census Bureau defines race as a person's self-identification with one or more social groups.
Racism =
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

In dating/mate selection 'choosing' is a preference based on individual assumptions or general observations of others having similar traits.
The choice or preference doesn't make you a racist. What you do or say based on that choice is what makes you a racist, or not.

I see people as people until 'they' make it about race. My mating preference has nothing to do with it. I choose from my race first but that doesn't mean I believe anyone from other races are inferior, I just have no experience with the other races in intimacy. I also choose from my own class. Not because I believe lower classes or higher classes are inferior but because all my experience is with middle class. I choose what I know and understand.
You choose who you want, it makes no difference to me as long as they don't disrupt my contentment.

If there is a gang of druggies in the local park acting like savages, it makes no difference what race they are - I'm not gunna want to be in the park. I'm not gunna take my kid to that park.

Discrimination is not going to end until EVERYONE stops making a big thing about it. It doesn't matter if yer defending or attacking, as long as it has a focus, it will continue.

We're all people. Everybody breathes, everybody eats, everybody poops, everybody bleeds and yes, EVERYBODY dies.
Yes, even Trump poops.

Thanks Tom, appreciated, as always.. I'll just add "Everybody hurts, sometimes." Michael Stipe (R.E.M.)

Ladywind7's photo
Wed 02/05/20 11:59 PM

The Census Bureau defines race as a person's self-identification with one or more social groups.
Racism =
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

In dating/mate selection 'choosing' is a preference based on individual assumptions or general observations of others having similar traits.
The choice or preference doesn't make you a racist. What you do or say based on that choice is what makes you a racist, or not.

I see people as people until 'they' make it about race. My mating preference has nothing to do with it. I choose from my race first but that doesn't mean I believe anyone from other races are inferior, I just have no experience with the other races in intimacy. I also choose from my own class. Not because I believe lower classes or higher classes are inferior but because all my experience is with middle class. I choose what I know and understand.
You choose who you want, it makes no difference to me as long as they don't disrupt my contentment.

If there is a gang of druggies in the local park acting like savages, it makes no difference what race they are - I'm not gunna want to be in the park. I'm not gunna take my kid to that park.

Discrimination is not going to end until EVERYONE stops making a big thing about it. It doesn't matter if yer defending or attacking, as long as it has a focus, it will continue.

We're all people. Everybody breathes, everybody eats, everybody poops, everybody bleeds and yes, EVERYBODY dies.
Yes, even Trump poops.


Well said Tom and may the KKK and White Supremacists now have their say....
Because that is racism.
We all see it, know it and despise racism.
Preference is preference. Racism is racism.
Let's not point the finger, but examine ourselves.
And as one lovely poster said "Love one another".

Rock's photo
Thu 02/06/20 02:09 AM
Having been open to interracial
and multicultural relationships for
most of my life.

Without anyone telling me,
that I should, or shouldn't.

The more heated the topic becomes,
the less inclined I become, to allow
anyone to suggest where I need to
put my pecker, to prove a point.

I've always disliked trends/fads,
and I've always shunned popularity.
So, from this day forward, I will only
date caucasian.

Ladywind7's photo
Thu 02/06/20 02:19 AM
Edited by Ladywind7 on Thu 02/06/20 02:20 AM

Having been open to interracial
and multicultural relationships for
most of my life.

Without anyone telling me,
that I should, or shouldn't.

The more heated the topic becomes,
the less inclined I become, to allow
anyone to suggest where I need to
put my pecker, to prove a point.

I've always disliked trends/fads,
and I've always shunned popularity.
So, from this day forward, I will only
date caucasian.


Well, I am polka dot on the inside, white on the outside and worm poo when I am dead.....Whom I share my life with next will be 100 cats and 100 dogs. Humans are too complicated bigsmile

Rock's photo
Thu 02/06/20 02:23 AM


Having been open to interracial
and multicultural relationships for
most of my life.

Without anyone telling me,
that I should, or shouldn't.

The more heated the topic becomes,
the less inclined I become, to allow
anyone to suggest where I need to
put my pecker, to prove a point.

I've always disliked trends/fads,
and I've always shunned popularity.
So, from this day forward, I will only
date caucasian.


Well, I am polka dot on the inside, white on the outside and worm poo when I am dead.....Whom I share my life with next will be 100 cats and 100 dogs. Humans are too complicated bigsmile



Pretty much.

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Thu 02/06/20 02:45 AM
This quote from Bobby Seale still rings true today.." You don't fight racism with racism, the best way to fight racism is with solidarity."

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 02/06/20 02:45 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Thu 02/06/20 02:46 AM
It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Thu 02/06/20 03:05 AM

It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Thanks for input, much appreciated, I always thought the "Zwarte Piet" thing in Holland was a bit fecked up, I don't really know the story behind it, but it has something to do with the devil and punishment? Same as the Black and White mistral show that used to be on in the UK in the 70's, I sometimes wonder who thought of these things.
Anyway.. Love is lovely:heart:

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/06/20 03:06 AM
Raised in the USA, we have the races: White, African American, Asian, Native, and Pacific Islander.


I only regard as racism the thinking that presumes to know ANY individual of one of those groups by only knowing which group they belong to. All of these groups are broken down by where their ANCESTORS were from.

All five of these races have diverse individuals with diverse cultures and values and appearances. I really think anyone that doesn't give another a chance or consider giving them a chance JUST because of which of these groups they belong to is behaving in a racist manner. I believe anyone that takes a character trait or value and assigns it to every member of any of these groups automatically is behaving in a racist manner.

I also respect that it is to each their own(racist preference or not...lol)

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 02/06/20 03:25 AM


It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Thanks for input, much appreciated, I always thought the "Zwarte Piet" thing in Holland was a bit fecked up, I don't really know the story behind it, but it has something to do with the devil and punishment? Same as the Black and White mistral show that used to be on in the UK in the 70's, I sometimes wonder who thought of these things.
Anyway.. Love is lovely:heart:

The Zwarte Piet thing is still going strong. I saw something that was shown in the UK -I believe by Russel Brand, trust him, lol- and what he said and showed is stuff I've never ever seen or heard. Neither has anyone else I know.
It is totally blown out of proportion.
No one ever related it to black people as inferior, as a child I didn't even think of that at all, and that's what everyone says. You looked up to Zwarte Pieten as they had influence and power. They weren't slaves or inferior. Saint Nicolas never really did anything much, logical since he's so old. Kind of like Santa, just sitting there, talking to each child.
It's very much the same as Santa and his elves, just that no one cares about the elves as they're white.
But the whole thing is still going strong, and if coloured people hadn't made a fuss no one today would think of it as possibly racist, but see it just as innocent as Santa and his elves. I doubt anyone ever fussed about them being slaves, hihi.
But yeah... I do understand it appears different looking from the outside in as then you don't know the feeling associated with a certain event.
Like my British ex still got the jitters a bit from the Daleks and was still impressed by the Tardis. I could never relate to that the same way as I've never experienced that as a child.
Dalex scared the crap out of him as a child and he hid behind the settee. I just see golden things on wheels with annoying voices and a loo plunger on 'em, haha.
Looking from the outside in you can't get the same feel of these things as people who grew up with it cos you're not really part of the tradition.
That's part of how I found out a relationship with someone from another culture is difficult. Certain things you can never ever understand from one another, no matter how much you love each other or how much you want to.

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Thu 02/06/20 03:54 AM



It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Thanks for input, much appreciated, I always thought the "Zwarte Piet" thing in Holland was a bit fecked up, I don't really know the story behind it, but it has something to do with the devil and punishment? Same as the Black and White mistral show that used to be on in the UK in the 70's, I sometimes wonder who thought of these things.
Anyway.. Love is lovely:heart:

The Zwarte Piet thing is still going strong. I saw something that was shown in the UK -I believe by Russel Brand, trust him, lol- and what he said and showed is stuff I've never ever seen or heard. Neither has anyone else I know.
It is totally blown out of proportion.
No one ever related it to black people as inferior, as a child I didn't even think of that at all, and that's what everyone says. You looked up to Zwarte Pieten as they had influence and power. They weren't slaves or inferior. Saint Nicolas never really did anything much, logical since he's so old. Kind of like Santa, just sitting there, talking to each child.
It's very much the same as Santa and his elves, just that no one cares about the elves as they're white.
But the whole thing is still going strong, and if coloured people hadn't made a fuss no one today would think of it as possibly racist, but see it just as innocent as Santa and his elves. I doubt anyone ever fussed about them being slaves, hihi.
But yeah... I do understand it appears different looking from the outside in as then you don't know the feeling associated with a certain event.
Like my British ex still got the jitters a bit from the Daleks and was still impressed by the Tardis. I could never relate to that the same way as I've never experienced that as a child.
Dalex scared the crap out of him as a child and he hid behind the settee. I just see golden things on wheels with annoying voices and a loo plunger on 'em, haha.
Looking from the outside in you can't get the same feel of these things as people who grew up with it cos you're not really part of the tradition.
That's part of how I found out a relationship with someone from another culture is difficult. Certain things you can never ever understand from one another, no matter how much you love each other or how much you want to.

Nice one, thanks for that, I really never got that whole thing.. I suppose education is the key in all these matters.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 02/06/20 04:17 AM




It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Thanks for input, much appreciated, I always thought the "Zwarte Piet" thing in Holland was a bit fecked up, I don't really know the story behind it, but it has something to do with the devil and punishment? Same as the Black and White mistral show that used to be on in the UK in the 70's, I sometimes wonder who thought of these things.
Anyway.. Love is lovely:heart:

The Zwarte Piet thing is still going strong. I saw something that was shown in the UK -I believe by Russel Brand, trust him, lol- and what he said and showed is stuff I've never ever seen or heard. Neither has anyone else I know.
It is totally blown out of proportion.
No one ever related it to black people as inferior, as a child I didn't even think of that at all, and that's what everyone says. You looked up to Zwarte Pieten as they had influence and power. They weren't slaves or inferior. Saint Nicolas never really did anything much, logical since he's so old. Kind of like Santa, just sitting there, talking to each child.
It's very much the same as Santa and his elves, just that no one cares about the elves as they're white.
But the whole thing is still going strong, and if coloured people hadn't made a fuss no one today would think of it as possibly racist, but see it just as innocent as Santa and his elves. I doubt anyone ever fussed about them being slaves, hihi.
But yeah... I do understand it appears different looking from the outside in as then you don't know the feeling associated with a certain event.
Like my British ex still got the jitters a bit from the Daleks and was still impressed by the Tardis. I could never relate to that the same way as I've never experienced that as a child.
Dalex scared the crap out of him as a child and he hid behind the settee. I just see golden things on wheels with annoying voices and a loo plunger on 'em, haha.
Looking from the outside in you can't get the same feel of these things as people who grew up with it cos you're not really part of the tradition.
That's part of how I found out a relationship with someone from another culture is difficult. Certain things you can never ever understand from one another, no matter how much you love each other or how much you want to.

Nice one, thanks for that, I really never got that whole thing.. I suppose education is the key in all these matters.

You're welcome flowerforyou

Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚's photo
Thu 02/06/20 04:38 AM





It may vary from country to country what shape and form racism takes, and even if it actually IS racism.
Over here I think it mostly has to do with people coming here that do not fit in our culture and often -not always- this is based on religion.
with the refugees we get in the thousands nowadays it's mostly religion and religious behaviour and 'dress code', not race or colour of skin per say.
We do not have another race with whom we build our country like the US. And in a way the Australians and NZers, although this is different again.
We have a modern, Western culture, much of those who now come here basically come from Medieval lifestyle. It takes a long time for that gap to close, not on the outside, on the inside where their lifestyle still is strong.
That has nothing to do with race but may appear so -OR even instigate feelings of racism- as these people are from a different race.
We also have problems with Eastern Europeans, but they blend in much easier. NOT because skin colour, but because their culture is closer to ours.

All things considered I think much of what is regarded as racism by many isn't racism at all. Often it are different issues that cause a problem that in essence have nothing to do with race, but culture and religion.

That makes me wonder how many are in actual fact racists? Over here I think not so many. Although coloured people are creating it more and more by making a fuss of everything -including names of foods!!- that they consider racism that NO ONE ever related to a coloured person.
Think something like "black pudding". Suddenly such things are racist and have to be renamed??

Thanks for input, much appreciated, I always thought the "Zwarte Piet" thing in Holland was a bit fecked up, I don't really know the story behind it, but it has something to do with the devil and punishment? Same as the Black and White mistral show that used to be on in the UK in the 70's, I sometimes wonder who thought of these things.
Anyway.. Love is lovely:heart:

The Zwarte Piet thing is still going strong. I saw something that was shown in the UK -I believe by Russel Brand, trust him, lol- and what he said and showed is stuff I've never ever seen or heard. Neither has anyone else I know.
It is totally blown out of proportion.
No one ever related it to black people as inferior, as a child I didn't even think of that at all, and that's what everyone says. You looked up to Zwarte Pieten as they had influence and power. They weren't slaves or inferior. Saint Nicolas never really did anything much, logical since he's so old. Kind of like Santa, just sitting there, talking to each child.
It's very much the same as Santa and his elves, just that no one cares about the elves as they're white.
But the whole thing is still going strong, and if coloured people hadn't made a fuss no one today would think of it as possibly racist, but see it just as innocent as Santa and his elves. I doubt anyone ever fussed about them being slaves, hihi.
But yeah... I do understand it appears different looking from the outside in as then you don't know the feeling associated with a certain event.
Like my British ex still got the jitters a bit from the Daleks and was still impressed by the Tardis. I could never relate to that the same way as I've never experienced that as a child.
Dalex scared the crap out of him as a child and he hid behind the settee. I just see golden things on wheels with annoying voices and a loo plunger on 'em, haha.
Looking from the outside in you can't get the same feel of these things as people who grew up with it cos you're not really part of the tradition.
That's part of how I found out a relationship with someone from another culture is difficult. Certain things you can never ever understand from one another, no matter how much you love each other or how much you want to.

Nice one, thanks for that, I really never got that whole thing.. I suppose education is the key in all these matters.

You're welcome flowerforyou

flowerforyou winking

Emmanuella's photo
Thu 02/06/20 04:50 AM
I agree with you sister