Topic: Sleeping differences
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Thu 12/09/21 11:56 AM
Sounds like a lot more than just "trust" issues.

I sleep when I'm tired, and get up when I have to pee. If I'm still tired I go back to bed.

If "she" can't handle it, she can sleep in the other room.

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Thu 12/09/21 11:58 AM

Sounds like a lot more than just "trust" issues.

I sleep when I'm tired, and get up when I have to pee. If I'm still tired I go back to bed.

If "she" can't handle it, she can sleep in the other room.
rofl rofl what about the beds designed for no partner disturbance moto biggrin

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Thu 12/09/21 12:28 PM
get up when I have to pee
Told the doc about that and he put me on Flowmax (Tamsulosin) and it really helped reduce the bathroom trips.
It does something with the prostrate which allows you to empty better and this gives you more room for a nights worth of liquid waste storage...er sumptin like that...?

I just know it works for me cause I was getting up every two hours or so to hit the porcelain. Now I gotta go when I wake for the day but I do make myself go before I crawl into bed at night.

My problem is muscle pain due to rigor mortis (I've been dead for years...).
My new bed has one of those limited movement mattresses and I've noticed I don't toss & turn much anymore. Its pretty comfy if I could just get my old bones to cooperate.

When she sleeps over - we never wake each other unless its something we want to do...if'n ya know what I mean...

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Thu 12/09/21 01:40 PM
Do you mean a midnight snack Tom 🥪 biggrin :angel:

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Thu 12/09/21 02:25 PM

Do you mean a midnight snack Tom 🥪 biggrin :angel:

Yup, Lip Smackin Good!
Love the midnight Sausage Taco Combo...Sometimes the hot..sauce drips out but we learned to spread a towel first. Kinda like havin a picnic.

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Thu 12/09/21 03:23 PM
I think that I only need/get 3 to 4 hours of good sleep per night. The rest of the time I toss and turn. I used to be a night person into my late 20's. With no warning, I became a morning person, and I'm still a morning person.

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Thu 12/09/21 03:38 PM
Do you work cat ??

Something as simple as the routine of working would definitely impact on sleep cycles and quality of sleep .

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Thu 12/09/21 04:07 PM
I don't work. I don't take any pills, sleep aid or medication.

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Thu 12/09/21 06:39 PM

get up when I have to pee
Told the doc about that and he put me on Flowmax (Tamsulosin) and it really helped reduce the bathroom trips.
It does something with the prostrate which allows you to empty better and this gives you more room for a nights worth of liquid waste storage...er sumptin like that...?

I just know it works for me cause I was getting up every two hours or so to hit the porcelain. Now I gotta go when I wake for the day but I do make myself go before I crawl into bed at night.

My problem is muscle pain due to rigor mortis (I've been dead for years...).
My new bed has one of those limited movement mattresses and I've noticed I don't toss & turn much anymore. Its pretty comfy if I could just get my old bones to cooperate.

When she sleeps over - we never wake each other unless its something we want to do...if'n ya know what I mean...


Tom, what mg is your Tamsulosin? My VA doctor prescribed it for me. The stream and emptying is better but the number of trips hasn't gone down like I thought it would. Mine is a 0.4 mg.

OT: I go to sleep when I am tired and get up when I wake up. Sometimes if I don't go to bed until really late I may sleep until the crack of the afternoon. When I was married I sometimes went to bed later than my X but it never seem to bother her. At least she never said anything.

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Thu 12/09/21 08:20 PM
laugh and the world laughs with you , but snore and you sleep alone ...and yes, there are more reasons to sleep alone .... but I get by on 6 hours of sleep ..... no midnight snack attacks , no sleep aids and no toilet runs....

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Thu 12/09/21 08:22 PM
Well she's an X for a reason.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 12/09/21 08:56 PM
Tom, what mg is your Tamsulosin? My VA doctor prescribed it for me. The stream and emptying is better but the number of trips hasn't gone down like I thought it would. Mine is a 0.4 mg.

The Same.
I changed my liquid intake time too.
I usually don't drink anything 3 hrs before bed.
When I do, I also pee a lot during the night.

I notice its easier for me to sleep in cold weather. My recent issues have been pain.
I get up around 6 or 7am but I can nap anytime I want.

Sometimes I take some nyquil about 4am or so and then I'll sleep 'knocked out' till round 11am but it gives me a nyquil hangover.

About 2 hrs before bed I try to eat something with bread or chips (crisps). My thinking is it absorbs liquid?

Lately my gf has been waking round midnight when she sleeps over but she also had surgery on her abdomen and complains about pain waking her too.

When I wake in the am my COPD is the worst and I need my inhaler, might be part of the reason I stay up instead of going back to sleep.

I'm pretty inactive due to my disability so I'm sure that has something to do with my sleep patterns.

I've noticed the pain waking has been since my surgery in September.
Before that, I slept 8 hours straight most nights.
I read as you age you need less sleep especially when your activity levels drop off.
I also read most people do well on 6 hrs of sleep in a 24 hr period.

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Thu 12/09/21 09:20 PM
My first boyfriend had to have me in bed to go to sleep. I can't do that. When he fell asleep, I got up to do things. Another boyfriend needed 16 hours of sleep every day......

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Thu 12/09/21 09:21 PM

Tom, what mg is your Tamsulosin? My VA doctor prescribed it for me. The stream and emptying is better but the number of trips hasn't gone down like I thought it would. Mine is a 0.4 mg.

The Same.
I changed my liquid intake time too.
I usually don't drink anything 3 hrs before bed.
When I do, I also pee a lot during the night.




That could be the answer! Thanks Tom!

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Thu 12/09/21 09:47 PM
I guess men need more sleep and that is together time.

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Thu 12/09/21 09:49 PM
I don't need a lot of sleep but apparently i do snore so a heavy sleeper is preferred over a light one

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Tue 12/14/21 02:53 AM

I sleep like a baby love love

Have never taken sleeping pills or benzodiazepines . I am sure you are aware both have a sedative effect , can be addictive and have several unwanted side effects . Normal functioning can be compromised , especially driving and concentration . Perhaps talk to your psychologist about safe weaning . Insomnia does fluctuate and does not always require medication .

Agree with Tom sounds more like a trust issue that sleeping incompatibility .


Thank you for caring. But lorazapam saved my life. I had so much trauma from my childhood and other life situations, that over 15 years ago when I once used to see a psychologist for past trauma, the recommendation is the medication I am on.
Yes, doctors and I know exactly what I take and that they are sedatives. :grinning:
I also have fybromyalgia which means pain and sleeping becomes impossible.
I am very confident my professional doctor and my past psychologist know exactly what where I am at.
I think your post was meant to help, and I appreciate that, but unless you are a Doctor or Psychologist you should not be giving advice on a social forum when you have no understanding of a person's history. Bless you though for your kind thoughts.


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Tue 12/14/21 03:10 AM

laugh and the world laughs with you , but snore and you sleep alone ...and yes, there are more reasons to sleep alone .... but I get by on 6 hours of sleep ..... no midnight snack attacks , no sleep aids and no toilet runs....


Lol, snore and you sleep alone.
Well, until we have walked in anothers shoes... is a great quote.
No snack attacks or toilet runs here either, but do play Scrabble online till I sleep :grinning:

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Tue 12/14/21 08:54 AM


I sleep like a baby love love

Have never taken sleeping pills or benzodiazepines . I am sure you are aware both have a sedative effect , can be addictive and have several unwanted side effects . Normal functioning can be compromised , especially driving and concentration . Perhaps talk to your psychologist about safe weaning . Insomnia does fluctuate and does not always require medication .

Agree with Tom sounds more like a trust issue that sleeping incompatibility .


Thank you for caring. But lorazapam saved my life. I had so much trauma from my childhood and other life situations, that over 15 years ago when I once used to see a psychologist for past trauma, the recommendation is the medication I am on.
Yes, doctors and I know exactly what I take and that they are sedatives. :grinning:
I also have fybromyalgia which means pain and sleeping becomes impossible.
I am very confident my professional doctor and my past psychologist know exactly what where I am at.
I think your post was meant to help, and I appreciate that, but unless you are a Doctor or Psychologist you should not be giving advice on a social forum when you have no understanding of a person's history. Bless you though for your kind thoughts.


flowerforyou seems you are the one making assumptions . You know nothing about me or my medical qualifications :wink: ... I have never disclosed that with you , other than to acknowledge that I am a health professional . I will always distinguish between medical advice , a personal opinion or sharing scientific information . My post to you was merely an observation about the dangers of benzodiazepines , which I stand by . ..... Sounds like you are dealing with a lot of trauma and distress In your life . Cannot be easy. Stay safe and well .

P.s. one other suggestion .. If you do not want personal feedback /comments suggest you post about a TOPIC rather than making a Topic personal ... about you . I certainly recommend caution about what you share on the internet . :thumbsup:

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Tue 12/14/21 10:47 AM
Trust issues???
I really don't see how that can be derived from what the OP asked?
Sure, you could have issues with different sleeping times and trust, but the OP didn't suggest anything like that.
So quite the jump to say it's trust issues.

For me kind of similar sleeping rhythms and times are quite important but have nothing to do with trust issues.
As I said in an earlier post, it has consequences if patterns are very different. For instance...
-not going to bed together, which could also affect sexlife, but just always missing the intimate moment of going to bed & sleep together...
- no breakfast together, which I find quite important
- not matching in what you do during the evening as levels of energy will very likely be different too. Me being an evening person, I got more energy then while an early riser and sleeper will probably be half asleep when I'm at my best. Different sleep rhythms usually also mean very different times of having much energy which will affect the relationship.

and so on.
If you don't care about the things mentioned above then I guess it doesn't matter. To me these things do matter, a lot.
Nothing to do with trust issues.

I don't get why people jump to conclusions??