I never said one life was worth more than another. I said a guilty persons right to not be tortured is less than thousands of innocent peoples lives.

so after the torture the illegal wiretaping, the war based on lies, the econonmy down the drain, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, the treaty betrayals all the way to the geneva convention am I unamerican to be outraged?

torture is unjust


and would you really trust our government with free reign over torture?

i never said free reign did i. I said in a hypothetical worst case scenario when you have proof and people lives are in imidiate danger.

Dragoness......

Please re-read my post. I mentioned the president only one time. I address multiple issues.


To answer your query, yes. One of the many things that makes you un-American is your distortion of facts. Additionally, since this thread is about whether you are un-American, you take great pleasure in bringing down our president and our government, clearly the actions of one who hates America.

Once again, answering your query as to whether you are un-American, you get off on anything that has to do with the country going down the tubes. You have an agenda, which is clearly un-American. So, once again to answer your question, you are un-American and anti-American.

However, I am amazed that you would start a thread asking the query are you un-American since, if the question has to be asked, then the answer can only be a resounding YES, YOU ARE ANTI-AMERICAN and UN-AMERICAN.

you do know that it doesn't work, don't you?

Dragoness......

Please re-read my post. I mentioned the president only one time. I address multiple issues.


To answer your query, yes. One of the many things that makes you un-American is your distortion of facts. Additionally, since this thread is about whether you are un-American, you take great pleasure in bringing down our president and our government, clearly the actions of one who hates America.

Once again, answering your query as to whether you are un-American, you get off on anything that has to do with the country going down the tubes. You have an agenda, which is clearly un-American. So, once again to answer your question, you are un-American and anti-American.

However, I am amazed that you would start a thread asking the query are you un-American since, if the question has to be asked, then the answer can only be a resounding YES, YOU ARE ANTI-AMERICAN and UN-AMERICAN.

Uhh he is not a dictator. He doesn't have power to do anything without the consent of Congress.

Dragoness......

You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility.

Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever.

that's your opinion. i see little fault in their logic. bush has us fighting a diversion of a war and is getting tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out.

i can't understand not being upset about every thing the man does. he manages to turn everything he touches to ****

You know Hilary and Obama both said they wouldn't be able to pull out their first term.

toastedotanges......

You are doing the same thing .... throwing out one liners that have no substance, other than stressing trailer trash language and profanity. Look at what you said:

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bush has us fighting a diversion of a war

tons of young people killed because he's too much of an ass to back out.

he manages to turn everything he touches to ****

Dragoness......

You seem like a reasonable person, so I am going to give you a helpful suggestion. When you engage in name calling, referring to the president as a "dictator," throw out metaphors like "baby shrub" that do not make sense, accuse the president of "killing our young people," throwing out the termonology "illegal war," and use profanity, you lose your credibility.

Rather than do the above which makes you appear to know nothing except one liners, you'd be better off to engage in constructive criticism of me or the president, or whatever.