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Thu 05/16/13 10:32 AM

oh really well while yer mentioning iran back then ask yerself this.the shah of iran ran off to the usa to hide in exile WHY?????we know why. but swearing not allowed on here. laugh
If that is addressed to me lynn you seem to have your knickers in a twist. I never mentioned Iran.

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Thu 05/16/13 10:27 AM





i'm not sure where you get your info at, but right now, the only war we have active is the war on terror... we are not at war with any nation...


Kind of like a warrant-less search open to all territories of the world and its people don't you think?

Isn't our gov't and its elite politicos to be praised for knowing and defining our enemies so well for us? slaphead


liberals have a tendency to want to tell everyone else how to live...
was your last government liberal?. Just asking as we agreed on another thread that there was no difference from GWB,s time in office and now.


kind of... i said the only change i see is the police state is worse now than when bush was in....
The Police State, a very worrying development. Strange times for America.

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Thu 05/16/13 10:23 AM

haah that should set happybun off nicely.laugh methinks he chose the wrong namespock bigoted against the brits woweeee are we supposed to be scared now lmao.why single us out?what about neuremberg trials and Auschwitz and pol pot and a million other things.none of them were british things.bah cant be doing with him and his up yours to the brits attitude!!!
I am a happybun. Glad you mentiond the Nuremberg Trials. It seems they only tried a sample few, the rest (Rheinhard Gehlen and co) were recruited ny The Brits and USA..xxx

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Thu 05/16/13 10:14 AM
I am a Lover not a Fighter. xxx

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Thu 05/16/13 09:20 AM
TYPES
OF IMPERIALISM
Europeans
began building their empires in the western hemisphere in the early 1500s, but
by the 1800s, Spain and Portugal were no longer powerful countries, and
the largest British colony had become the United States. Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and the Netherlands continued to colonize during this era,
but they also devised other ways to spread their empires. In the late 19th
century Japan and the United States joined the European nations as an
imperialist power.
Types
of imperialism in the 1800s included:
Colonial imperialism - This
form of imperialism is virtual complete takeover of an area, with
domination in all areas: economic, political, and socio-cultural. The
subjugated area existed to benefit the imperialist power, and had almost
no independence of action. In this era, almost all of Africa
and southern and southeast Asia were colonized.
Economic imperialism - This
form of imperialism allowed the area to operate as its own nation, but the
imperialist nation almost completely controlled its trade and other
business. For example, it may impose regulations that forbid trade with
other nations, or imperialist companies may own or have exclusive rights
to its natural resources. During this era, China
and most of Latin America were subjected to
economic imperialism.
Political imperialism -
Although a country may have had its own government with natives in top
political positions, it operated as the imperialist country told it to.
The government was sometimes a relatively permanent "puppet
government," as happened in late Qing China, and other times the
control was temporary, as occurred in the Dominican Republic when the
United States ran its government until it got out of debt.
Socio-cultural imperialism -
The dominating country deliberately tried to change customs, religions and
languages in some of the countries. A good example was British
India, where English was taught in schools, Indian soldiers
dressed British-style, and western trading rules were set up. Generally,
the imperialist countries assumed their cultures to be superior, and often
times they saw themselves as bringing about improvements in the society.

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Thu 05/16/13 09:19 AM


The west are making a mess of this one. Nothing new there of course. Worse atrocities in Iraq on a daily basis. And that was supposed to have been sorted. Can't wait to see what the plans are for Iran.


well,I am quite optimistic the West will survive!
Not too sure about those ME and Southasian Theocracies and Dictatorships!


Americas surplus oil production might lessen the dependency of the west . Happy days are yet to come.

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Thu 05/16/13 09:13 AM


"Yes, we all know about Gehlen"

Do you mean we Europeans, you and I?

We are the only ones on this thread.
How about Rick and Magnus Pym?


What are their usernames?

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Thu 05/16/13 09:09 AM





You specifically mentioned alleged "American imperialism".
Yet, you gave no evidence of such a thing.


Many just parrot the rhetoric without understanding the nature of 'imperialism'.


Once upon a time, the USA had possession of the Philippine Islands, but the USA set the Philippines free.

Once upon a time, the USA had complete possession of Cuba, but the USA set Cuba free.

Once upon a time, the USA had possession of the Panama Canal, but then the USA gave it back to the nation of Panama.

The giving away of such possessions is the opposite of what an imperial nation would do.


Indeed, and many are fashionably and erroneously attributing the US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan to 'imperialism' when it is clearly nothing of the sort.


TYPES
OF IMPERIALISM
Europeans
began building their empires in the western hemisphere in the early 1500s, but
by the 1800s, Spain and Portugal were no longer powerful countries, and
the largest British colony had become the United States. Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and the Netherlands continued to colonize during this era,
but they also devised other ways to spread their empires. In the late 19th
century Japan and the United States joined the European nations as an
imperialist power.
Types
of imperialism in the 1800s included:
Colonial imperialism - This
form of imperialism is virtual complete takeover of an area, with
domination in all areas: economic, political, and socio-cultural. The
subjugated area existed to benefit the imperialist power, and had almost
no independence of action. In this era, almost all of Africa
and southern and southeast Asia were colonized.
Economic imperialism - This
form of imperialism allowed the area to operate as its own nation, but the
imperialist nation almost completely controlled its trade and other
business. For example, it may impose regulations that forbid trade with
other nations, or imperialist companies may own or have exclusive rights
to its natural resources. During this era, China
and most of Latin America were subjected to
economic imperialism.
Political imperialism -
Although a country may have had its own government with natives in top
political positions, it operated as the imperialist country told it to.
The government was sometimes a relatively permanent "puppet
government," as happened in late Qing China, and other times the
control was temporary, as occurred in the Dominican Republic when the
United States ran its government until it got out of debt.
Socio-cultural imperialism -
The dominating country deliberately tried to change customs, religions and
languages in some of the countries. A good example was British
India, where English was taught in schools, Indian soldiers
dressed British-style, and western trading rules were set up. Generally,
the imperialist countries assumed their cultures to be superior, and often
times they saw themselves as bringing about improvements in the society.

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Wed 05/15/13 12:11 PM
"Yes, we all know about Gehlen"

Do you mean we Europeans, you and I?

We are the only ones on this thread.

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Wed 05/15/13 11:00 AM
The thread is about the Nazi influence on Americas war machine post ww2.


Gehlen was a Nazi. But you knew that, right?

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Wed 05/15/13 10:50 AM
The west are making a mess of this one. Nothing new there of course. Worse atrocities in Iraq on a daily basis. And that was supposed to have been sorted. Can't wait to see what the plans are for Iran.


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Wed 05/15/13 10:34 AM
Gehlen Organization
Gehlen Organization or Gehlen Org was an intelligence agency established in June 1946 by U.S. occupation authorities in the United States Zone of Germany, and consisted of former members of the 12th Department of the Army General Staff (Foreign Armies East, or FHO). It carries the name of Reinhard Gehlen.
Gehlen had all along been under the tutelage of US Army G-2 (intelligence), but he wished to establish and succeeded in establishing an association with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), in 1947. In alliance with the CIA, the military orientation of the organization turned increasingly toward political, economic and technical espionage against the Eastern bloc and the moniker "Pullach" became synonymous with secret service intrigues.[1]
The Org was for many years the only eyes and ears of the CIA on the ground in the Soviet Bloc nations during the Cold War. The CIA kept close tabs on the Gehlen group: the Org supplied the manpower while the CIA supplied the material needs for clandestine operations, including funding, cars and airplanes.
Every German POW returning from Soviet captivity to West Germany between 1947 and 1955 was interviewed by Org agents. Those returnees who were forced to work in Soviet industries and construction and were willing to participate, represented an incomparable source of information, a post-war, up-to-date picture of the Soviet empire as it evolved.[2]
The Org had close contacts with East European émigré organizations. Unheralded tasks, such as observations of the operation of Soviet rail systems, airfields and ports were as important as was infiltration in the Baltic and the Ukraine, using former Kriegsmarine E-boats from bases in Turkey.[3] Another mission by the Gehlen Organization was "Operation Rusty" that carried out counter-espionage activities directed against dissident German organizations in Europe.
The Org "Operation Bohemia" was a major counter-espionage success. By penetrating a Czechoslovak run operation, the Org uncovered another network – a spy ring run by the Yugoslav secret service in several cities in western Europe.[4] The Gehlen Organization was also successful in discovering a secret Soviet assassination unit functioning under the umbrella of SMERSH. An Org informant in Prague reported that the Red Army had been issued an advanced, multi-usage detonator of Czech design but was manufactured in a defense plant in Kharkov. The CIA showed interest. Several weeks later Org’s couriers presented the detonator, with complete technical data to the CIA liaison staff at Pullach. Just after, the Czech engineer and his family were smuggled across the frontier into West Germany and on to the United States.[5] By identifying people who suffered under the new communist regimes in eastern Europe, the Org recruited many agents who "wished nothing more than to drive the Bolsheviks from Europe."[6]
The Gehlen Organization was severely compromised by East German communist moles within the organization itself, and communists and their sympathizers within the CIA and the British MI6, particularly Harold "Kim" Philby. The WIN mission to Poland was a failure due to the compromising of the mission by counter-spies; as it turned out, the so-called Fifth Command of WiN organization within Poland had been created by the Soviet intelligence services.
The Gehlen Org employed hundreds of ex-Nazis. Gehlen initially rejected hiring ex-SS personnel, but later as justification for their recruiting he insinuated that the East German State Security Service had been largely run by ex-SS personnel, i.e., it takes one to catch the other.[7]
Once the Org emerged in minuscule steps from the shadows, Gehlen and his group were attacked relentlessly from both sides, the West and the East. The British in particular had a problem with Gehlen and segments of the English press made sure it became known. Beginning with an article on 17 March 1952, Sefton Delmer, senior correspondent for London’s Daily Express, dragged Gehlen into the news. On 10 August 1954, Delmer would set the tone by announcing that "Gehlen and his Nazis are coming." Delmer implied in his story that a continuation of nothing less than Hitler’s aims was at hand through this "monstrous underground power in Germany."[8] In more recent days, after reviewing selected declassified CIA documents on the Gehlen Org, a Guardian article vents, that "... for all the moral compromises involved [in hiring former Nazis], it was a complete failure in intelligence terms. The Nazis were terrible spies."[9] The communist East as well castigated Gehlen’s group as fanatical and virulent agents of revenge and of American imperialism.[10]
There was also Alois Brunner in Syria, alleged to be an Org operative, who was responsible for the Drancy internment camp near Paris, for the death of 140,000 Jews, and is believed to be still alive as of 2007;[11] the CIA turned a blind eye, and indeed actively participated in some cases, because of the exigencies of the Cold War. According to Robert Wolfe, historian at the US National Archives, "US Army intelligence accepted Reinhard Gehlen's offer to furnish alleged expertise on the Red Army – and was bilked by the many mass murderers he hired."[9]
On April 1, 1956, the Gehlen Org was formally established as the Bundesnachrichtendienst (or Federal Intelligence Agency) of the Federal Republic of Germany, which exists to this day. Reinhard Gehlen stepped down as president in 1968 after reaching retirement age.

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Wed 05/15/13 09:30 AM
A Syrian rebel militia leader who filmed cutting the heart and organs out of a regime soldier’s body and putting it in his mouth has defended his actions as legitimate vengeance.
Mutilating the corpse, Khaled al-Hamad, known by the pseudonym Abu Sakkar, handed an instant propaganda victory to the Syrian government, which accused the West of ignoring rebel atrocities.
The video purported to show him cutting the lungs out of a soldier’s corpse before apparently eating a small piece of the organ. “I swear to God we will eat your hearts, Alawite soldiers of Bashar the dog,” he said, referring to supporters of President Bashar al-Assad from the minority Alawite sect.

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Wed 05/15/13 09:19 AM
Edited by HappyBun on Wed 05/15/13 09:22 AM


If we want to understand why US-led wars of aggression, covert
and overt, are plaguing the planet, from Iraq, Afghanistan, to
Libya, Syria and Iran, we can gain much insight into today’s
problems by going back to events at the end of the Second World
War.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/11/302975/us-driven-by-nazi-war-machine/

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Wed 05/15/13 08:49 AM
A gruesome video has emerged on the Internet, showing a foreign-backed militant in Syria cutting out the heart of a Syrian soldier and biting into it.


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Wed 05/15/13 08:25 AM
Make LOVE not WAR.

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Tue 05/14/13 01:27 PM

AMERICA IS CENTRAL TO THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD .


Whatever. whoa




You need to read your real history. It's all out there if you look deep enough because , believe me it is buried very very deep.

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Tue 05/14/13 01:22 PM


AMERICA IS CENTRAL TO THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD .


Whatever. whoa




More clearly, our foreign policy under the last 4 administrations is central to the problem

Ever since it was declared "corporations are people too"

Till Texas hangs one, I disagree!


Corporations and Foreign Policy.

Birds of a Feather.

Hang the Corporations and Dump the Foreign Policy.

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Tue 05/14/13 01:15 PM








Eliminate the funding and profits and you eliminate the problem!
Take the profit out of war and we will soon have peace.



When the U.K. fought against Nazi Germany during WWII, was the U.K. fighting for profit?
No, America was the main beneficiary from that.


huh Are you serious?

The USA stayed out of WWII until Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese military. Japan declared war on the USA first.
Yes I am serious. Explain to me how America was riding the crest of a wave at the end of WW11 and Britian was flat broke. The UK paid its last installment to the US for services rendered less than three years ago I believe.


There is a difference between something being an outcome of a war and something being the motivation for a war.

After WWI, members of the American general public were in no mood to be involved in any more wars. However, the USA was forced into war when the Japanese military attacked Pearl Harbor.

Now, if you are questioning the ability of the USA to experience an economic revival at the end WWII, then that is easy to explain.

First, the USA mainland wasn't subjected to the bombings that England was subjected to. So, the production abilities of U.S. industries were not harmed the same way that the production abilities of English industries were harmed.

Second, the USA had more manpower and natural resources than England, and so, it was only natural that industry in the USA was able to thrive more than English industry.

No, the USA didn't enter WWII for economic gain. The USA was still trying to come out of a depression when the attack on Pearl Harbor took place. That attack woke up the American spirit, which would not allow Japan to get away with such an attack without being punished.


War is the savior of depression, Therefore America was a major beneficiary of WW2

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Tue 05/14/13 01:05 PM



i'm not sure where you get your info at, but right now, the only war we have active is the war on terror... we are not at war with any nation...


Kind of like a warrant-less search open to all territories of the world and its people don't you think?

Isn't our gov't and its elite politicos to be praised for knowing and defining our enemies so well for us? slaphead


liberals have a tendency to want to tell everyone else how to live...
was your last government liberal?. Just asking as we agreed on another thread that there was no difference from GWB,s time in office and now.

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