Topic: Sex for money..... do y'all think?
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Sat 11/23/13 06:44 PM
it's not all abt losers and winners,
it's all abt money :-) everyone in this world works for money and if someone do sex for money whats wrong in that

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 11/23/13 07:46 PM

it's not all abt losers and winners,
it's all abt money :-) everyone in this world works for money and if someone do sex for money whats wrong in that


If a person has "safer" sex, I use the term very guardedly here because safer sex still has it's risks then yes it is a choice that two consenting adults make. I may find it morally repugnant but then that would be hardly unique to prostitution.

What bothers me about prostitution it IS about winners and losers.

Prostitution rarely occurs in a vacume. And rarely is it just two consenting adults involved.

Most prostitutes are induced to prostitution my being forced into it to survive as minors, drugs, and violence and the knowledge that once it is done it will be held over them with family, friends, future employers, and potential mates virtually the rest of their lives. Nobody takes complete pride in saying their child, sibling, parent, lover, or spouse is a prostitute.

Even prostitutes who feign that it is just "easy" money... no "biggy" have the highest rates of self mutilation, addiction, depression, premature ageing, cancer, eating disorders, traumatic brain injury, gunshot injuries, knife assaults, suicide, and murder of almost any other semi-documented profession. That doesn't even take into account incarceration and those attending miseries. Rough estimates suggest that for every year a person prostitutes themselves they foreshorten their life by a decade. That alone is a pretty high cost of doing business at supposedly a "survival" job.

And what about the many "John's" in fact have other partners that they take their exposure home to. Innocents that have no say or knowledge that they are at risk until it is way too late. The betrayal is real and so are the health consequences that often result in illness and death of parents and sometimes the neglect and displacement of children. The number of Johns who have hepatitis, liver and kidney failure, depression, alcoholism, and head injuries or mutilations related to an angry prostitute or pimp and can never work again is not a miniscule expense to the victims or society. So consent is well not really consent.

Use of prostitutes is rarely a line item agreed on expense weather it is a spouse that has their budget reduced, employer that is having an expense account padded, or a tax payer who is footing the bill for medical and policing expenses, or a neighborhood where property values and safety are compromised by the illegal activity. Whore houses don't do a lot for property value and many landlords never see a dime in rent when the prostitute gets busted or just decides to move on. Cops and other helping professionals who are distracted from needs not self induced by prostitution have resources drained away from real victims and people who deserve the help they are in need of.

Prostitution is not even victimless on their side. Rarely do prostitutes have even the minimum of employment benefits. They can not guarantee they will even be paid and who are they going to go to if they aren't, or they are injured, or left half dead. Not like they can file a workman's compensation claim or unemployment or collect social security from their wages. They have to hide their income and can be prosecuted for non-payment of taxes if someone wants to challenge their cash assets.

So yea there ARE lots of losers in prostitution and it is not a victimless crime.

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Sat 11/23/13 09:19 PM


It may suck to some but thr are people who need to make a living an thts all thy no how to do.so don't judge wht u don't no... "just saying" an thr are people who have been forced to do the job.


All they know how to do? I doubt that. If you have the physical ability to have sex you have the ability to do many jobs. Maybe not glamorous or easy jobs but certainly safer and with more future.



I was going to respond to the first part about needing to make a living. There are so many other ways to make a living, nobody "needs" a job that bad.

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Sat 11/23/13 09:20 PM
Life's circumstance rules that Industry. It is accepted there are enslaved innocents cruelly forced to participate. Need I say that is bad? Just as it is bad for the rug makers in Asia chaining children to sleep eat and work at the loom, those are bad; your assurance of gainfully being employed, in a majority of sex work reliant women and men regions lacks only an employer without chains ? drinker

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Sat 11/23/13 09:34 PM
I know some people get into this line of work because they can make more money at it. They look at flipping burgers for minimum wage and probably barely getting by or getting paid for sex where they can possibly make more in a week then they could a year flipping burgers.

I know of a story of a girl who in college was doing a research paper on prostitution and became one herself. Probably because she found out how much money she could make doing it. Things did not end well for her though. She was murdered. I don't recall the whole story. Just it was on an episode of Cold Case Files or some other true crime show I watched.

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Sat 11/23/13 09:56 PM
sex for money, do ya think?.........I try not to

stueebaby's photo
Sun 11/24/13 12:48 AM
Edited by stueebaby on Sun 11/24/13 01:12 AM
My previous flatmate done it for the extra money , welfare dose'nt buy much, Men r easy targets . She was'nt happy and still wanted to find someone to love her !!
I've been in the industry many years ago .

Heroin addiction and the cash required to keep the 6 hour high active leads many to give up your natural choice for the addiction choice when you come down.

Herion in your body
makes the body feel totally nothing ( On the Nod ) your body dose'nt feel someone having sex with you .

Many of the girls had a multitude of reasons for being in the industry , mostly good money to help get ahead and hard
drugs to help distract the mind from past misery , That's what I found
in the Bankstown .
brothels of Australia.

I guess I suck then ,Because I found people who made me feel loved and accepted and unfortunately the drugs stole a few years of my life.

I never gave up trying to find unconditional love !! Drug free now for many years , I still care about the people who work in that industry.

Prostitution is a choice...

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Sun 11/24/13 03:57 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/24/13 04:46 AM

I know some people get into this line of work because they can make more money at it. They look at flipping burgers for minimum wage and probably barely getting by or getting paid for sex where they can possibly make more in a week then they could a year flipping burgers.

I know of a story of a girl who in college was doing a research paper on prostitution and became one herself. Probably because she found out how much money she could make doing it. Things did not end well for her though. She was murdered. I don't recall the whole story. Just it was on an episode of Cold Case Files or some other true crime show I watched.



this is what I think, sex is sex, casual sex is casual and carries all the risks whether it ends in a payment or a courtship

I totally understand why escorts do what they do, I Think prostitutes' take too much of a risk and don't understand why they pay their earnings to a third person,,,

given the choice to work 15 or 20 hours at an activity that was a regular part of ones life anyway, and earn five to ten times as much as working forty to sixty hours . many are going to choose fewer hours and more money doing something they enjoy,,,

and if there is no stigma in having sex,,,,,as long as its consensual,,, its just another consensual way of having it

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Sun 11/24/13 04:43 AM
Let me contemplate on this subject-read all the posts, see all the participants then i will add my 2cents to this with most relationships that i've been in because that's all i have to go by with my opinion! and this great experience i'm having here on Mingle 2!!
CAUTION it may not be liked, but it will be the truth !! Be back soon!!

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Sun 11/24/13 04:46 AM
M against it bt i wonder wht will happen if they stop sellin thmselves for sex? It will b chaotic . With so many perverts getting psyched . There will be rape cases everywer ,, ,,.. Bt wht torments me the most is the human traffickin takin place in countries like bangladesh and many othrs. First of all thers no concept of consensual sex ... They go thru the worst .. Some are sold to the brothels by their own relatives and by the time they attain puberty , people strt feedin off their innocence.. Theirs no escape . Then thrs std's coz u juat cant make them wear cndoms ,,,,

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Sun 11/24/13 08:26 AM
No honestly, I'm not talking about junkies or crack whores. Just saying that the girls in legally run brothels are clean because they use condoms. Simple as that.

Throw statistics around as much as you like but the fact remains that there's a big difference between a whore that's forced into it, or is doing it to feed a drug habit and a girl that does it because she makes a lot of money and may even like the lifestyle.

Yeah, I know; you are going to say that's a myth put about by men that want to try to justify it but I've talked to a few women that worked as hookers and met some through friends.

Like I said, there are plenty of places in this city where you can pay for it without having to resort to picking up heroin addicts on street corners. The junkies can't even get work in brothels here.

The brothels are reasonably safe and if a customer gets violent or abusive they can call for help. Out on the streets it's not like that and you hear from time to time about prostitutes being murdered and they are always street whores.

Anyway, some people are never going to agree that prostitution can ever be a good thing. Not much point in arguing with them about it. They read or hear about a few stories where someone is exploited or psychologically damaged and they think that it's always like that. They call them all dirty women, even if they always use protection and get regular STD tests, which is more than a lot of people that engage in "casual sex" do.

I bet that my friend's brother came out of there with a massive smile on his face though and when I was talking to my friend about it my friend said that the girls probably enjoy it because he's hung like a horse.

It's a service industry and there are even men that go to prostitutes just to talk and not have sex. That's a fact and if the girl isn't nice and isn't sociable and friendly she isn't going to get any return customers apart from guys that really do only want to treat her like a filthy whore.

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Sun 11/24/13 08:33 AM
yes, it does sound like men trying to justify their participation. thee tries to too hard. such a long winded tale be a justifisction attempt, and that's really all I have to say on it

flowerforyou

sybariticguy's photo
Sun 11/24/13 08:34 AM

I am unconventional.

I don't think its any better or worse than any other 'casual' sex

I don't think its worse than giving it away for free, certainly
The woman is quite perceptive...

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Sun 11/24/13 08:37 AM


it's not all abt losers and winners,
it's all abt money :-) everyone in this world works for money and if someone do sex for money whats wrong in that


If a person has "safer" sex, I use the term very guardedly here because safer sex still has it's risks then yes it is a choice that two consenting adults make. I may find it morally repugnant but then that would be hardly unique to prostitution.

What bothers me about prostitution it IS about winners and losers.

Prostitution rarely occurs in a vacume. And rarely is it just two consenting adults involved.

Most prostitutes are induced to prostitution my being forced into it to survive as minors, drugs, and violence and the knowledge that once it is done it will be held over them with family, friends, future employers, and potential mates virtually the rest of their lives. Nobody takes complete pride in saying their child, sibling, parent, lover, or spouse is a prostitute.

Even prostitutes who feign that it is just "easy" money... no "biggy" have the highest rates of self mutilation, addiction, depression, premature ageing, cancer, eating disorders, traumatic brain injury, gunshot injuries, knife assaults, suicide, and murder of almost any other semi-documented profession. That doesn't even take into account incarceration and those attending miseries. Rough estimates suggest that for every year a person prostitutes themselves they foreshorten their life by a decade. That alone is a pretty high cost of doing business at supposedly a "survival" job.

And what about the many "John's" in fact have other partners that they take their exposure home to. Innocents that have no say or knowledge that they are at risk until it is way too late. The betrayal is real and so are the health consequences that often result in illness and death of parents and sometimes the neglect and displacement of children. The number of Johns who have hepatitis, liver and kidney failure, depression, alcoholism, and head injuries or mutilations related to an angry prostitute or pimp and can never work again is not a miniscule expense to the victims or society. So consent is well not really consent.

Use of prostitutes is rarely a line item agreed on expense weather it is a spouse that has their budget reduced, employer that is having an expense account padded, or a tax payer who is footing the bill for medical and policing expenses, or a neighborhood where property values and safety are compromised by the illegal activity. Whore houses don't do a lot for property value and many landlords never see a dime in rent when the prostitute gets busted or just decides to move on. Cops and other helping professionals who are distracted from needs not self induced by prostitution have resources drained away from real victims and people who deserve the help they are in need of.

Prostitution is not even victimless on their side. Rarely do prostitutes have even the minimum of employment benefits. They can not guarantee they will even be paid and who are they going to go to if they aren't, or they are injured, or left half dead. Not like they can file a workman's compensation claim or unemployment or collect social security from their wages. They have to hide their income and can be prosecuted for non-payment of taxes if someone wants to challenge their cash assets.

So yea there ARE lots of losers in prostitution and it is not a victimless crime.


well said:thumbsup:

Sunidi's photo
Sun 11/24/13 08:41 AM
Hi i want sex weth mony.

larsson71's photo
Sun 11/24/13 10:19 AM
Edited by larsson71 on Sun 11/24/13 10:21 AM

Hi i want sex weth mony.
Take it thats you out to blow yer dough? laugh laugh

izzyphoto1977's photo
Sun 11/24/13 10:44 AM


I know some people get into this line of work because they can make more money at it. They look at flipping burgers for minimum wage and probably barely getting by or getting paid for sex where they can possibly make more in a week then they could a year flipping burgers.

I know of a story of a girl who in college was doing a research paper on prostitution and became one herself. Probably because she found out how much money she could make doing it. Things did not end well for her though. She was murdered. I don't recall the whole story. Just it was on an episode of Cold Case Files or some other true crime show I watched.



this is what I think, sex is sex, casual sex is casual and carries all the risks whether it ends in a payment or a courtship

I totally understand why escorts do what they do, I Think prostitutes' take too much of a risk and don't understand why they pay their earnings to a third person,,,

given the choice to work 15 or 20 hours at an activity that was a regular part of ones life anyway, and earn five to ten times as much as working forty to sixty hours . many are going to choose fewer hours and more money doing something they enjoy,,,

and if there is no stigma in having sex,,,,,as long as its consensual,,, its just another consensual way of having it


I agree with you. I do look at prostitution as higher risk as they are getting paid for sex several times a day possibly and by men they probably most often know little to nothing about. Another thing is they even if the prostitute gets tested on a regular basis. Who is to say that her customers are getting tested. It only takes one time to make that mistake that messes up your life forever or shortens it very quickly.

izzyphoto1977's photo
Sun 11/24/13 11:45 AM
Actually I recall seeing an article that talked about how most prostitutes are more like cheap therapists. They'll have a number of customers that pay them to talk to them or just kind of hang out. Not something I would expect from that profession. But it was interesting to see that stated in an article.

Sameer809899's photo
Sun 11/24/13 11:51 AM
I love sex i no mony

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/24/13 12:03 PM



I know some people get into this line of work because they can make more money at it. They look at flipping burgers for minimum wage and probably barely getting by or getting paid for sex where they can possibly make more in a week then they could a year flipping burgers.

I know of a story of a girl who in college was doing a research paper on prostitution and became one herself. Probably because she found out how much money she could make doing it. Things did not end well for her though. She was murdered. I don't recall the whole story. Just it was on an episode of Cold Case Files or some other true crime show I watched.



this is what I think, sex is sex, casual sex is casual and carries all the risks whether it ends in a payment or a courtship

I totally understand why escorts do what they do, I Think prostitutes' take too much of a risk and don't understand why they pay their earnings to a third person,,,

given the choice to work 15 or 20 hours at an activity that was a regular part of ones life anyway, and earn five to ten times as much as working forty to sixty hours . many are going to choose fewer hours and more money doing something they enjoy,,,

and if there is no stigma in having sex,,,,,as long as its consensual,,, its just another consensual way of having it


I agree with you. I do look at prostitution as higher risk as they are getting paid for sex several times a day possibly and by men they probably most often know little to nothing about. Another thing is they even if the prostitute gets tested on a regular basis. Who is to say that her customers are getting tested. It only takes one time to make that mistake that messes up your life forever or shortens it very quickly.


yeah, just in general, standing on a corner or sitting at a bar stool and lying with some virtual stranger the same night is not safe

I don't differentiate between the two, except I think the person who got paid got more from it,,,