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Topic: Adrianne Curry: ��Boycott Black History Month
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Sun 02/09/14 12:30 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/09/14 12:31 AM


Getting back to the original topic ...

Black History Month is a month during which the accomplishments of black Americans are highlighted.

Doing so enables black American children learn that being black doesn't prevent a person from achieving success in noble pursuits. The month exposes such children to positive role models.

I don't know why a white person would be opposed to black children having positive role models revealed to them, unless that white person were an anti-black racist.

I don't know why a white person would be opposed to having the accomplishments of black Americans revealed, unless that white person were an anti-black racist.


Apparently some are offended when not everything is about white men.


apparently, reminds me of a cute image I saw





if it doesn't fit, please don't bother responding in defense,,laugh laugh


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Sun 02/09/14 04:52 AM

Saying I'm a racist bc I choose not to notice color is racist. People have lost lives to tear down color barriers and now u want a damn month to honor u being black? Excuse me if I don't celebrate it. These "accomplishments" are great but it shouldn't be any more or less valid bc of the color of ur skin.

It all comes down to unity. Either ur together as Americans or ur not. We should celebrate all accomplishments 12 months out of the year no matter ur skin color.

Racist my azz


Couldn't have said it better myself, hoorah.

drinker drinks waving

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Sun 02/09/14 05:17 AM
Edited by alnewman on Sun 02/09/14 05:20 AM





The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source].

So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized?


What would you expect from the same idiots that passed Odumbocare? Oh look I bought Odumbo into it again.

And yes it would be the same thing, why are you suggesting that the Scottish are superior to the descendents from Africa?

I think the Scottish should bow down to our founders and thank them for a free country where they could honor themselves. If not for the freedom provided by this republic, would the result have been the same? Doubt it.

And don't expect me to be impressed with anything congress or Odumbo either does they will pay anything for a vote. Isn't it amazing what your representatives wont do. So glad I don't need representatives.



I think there are many representing the theory that the only way is the great white way,,, and that everyone else should just step in line, 'know their place' and be grateful to them,,,,

so great to not have to think about not being black, ,isn't it?

to just be an 'american'? and be confident that you will be seen and treated as such....



And you would be in conflict again. Why is it that this hugely diverse country has black and everyone else but everything is about black vs white? What would be in error?



you tell me?

why is it that this 'diverse' country chose blacks to serve whites and be subservant to whites?

why is it that this 'diverse' country focused on blacks with jim crow laws?

why is it that this 'diverse' country focused on blacks for GENERATIONAL slavery (different from indentured servitude)



why is it that in this 'diverse' country, blacks are consistently at the bottom of the totem pole in jobs, education,

why is it that minglers continue to post threads regarding 'black' people , and aren't posed with this same question?



"The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself."
- Benjamin Franklin

History is the past and will never change, why do you insist on living there, can't cope with the present or you just can't grasp the concept of freedom?

"Many of the first Settlers of these Provinces, were Men who had received a good Education in Europe, and to their Wisdom and good Management we owe much of our present Prosperity. But their Hands were full, and they could not do all Things. The present Race are not thought to be generally of equal Ability: For though the American Youth are allow'd not to want Capacity; yet the best Capacities require Cultivation, it being truly with them, as with the best Ground, which unless well tilled and sowed with profitable Seed, produces only ranker Weeds."

And of course, Ben Franklin...

"Tonight, Founders' Fridays continue with Ben Franklin. There's a lot missing in what's taught about our Founders like Franklin. Did you know that Franklin, who so hated the poor, helped create the nation's first hospital? He is also often lumped in with the "Founders were racist" claims. Well..if he was a racist, then he wasn't really good at it, because he was the head of the Abolition Society, a group demanding an end to slavery. Benjamin Franklin practically defined Americanism: duty, innovation, personal responsibility, self-improvement. Tonight, we restore the history of one of the greatest Americans ever to live."


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Sun 02/09/14 09:27 AM











If your child only has one toy, and the kid down the street has five toys, do you teach your child that it is OK for him to take a couple of the other kid's toys?

Conservatives tell their children not to take things that don't belong to them.

Do liberals tell their children to steal form their neighbor's child if the neighbor's child has more then they do?

Just wondering if liberals have the same rules in their homes, as they impose on the American Taxpayers.

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Sun 02/09/14 10:31 AM












If your child only has one toy, and the kid down the street has five toys, do you teach your child that it is OK for him to take a couple of the other kid's toys?

Conservatives tell their children not to take things that don't belong to them.

Do liberals tell their children to steal form their neighbor's child if the neighbor's child has more then they do?

Just wondering if liberals have the same rules in their homes, as they impose on the American Taxpayers.


But they don't have to steal...

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

They just vote for someone that will do it for them.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/09/14 10:38 AM
bad analogy

stealing requires something material that has been acquired through direct bartering,,,,

TAXES aren't a direct barter, they are a CONTRIBUTION to keep the country running or maintain it in a certain way

it is but one TYPE of contribution, and there are even several TYPES of taxes,, amongst which ALL Americans pay some

a better analogy

when I run a home (read like, a country, society)
I teach all to contribute

the mom may contribute by raising the children and keeping the home someplace the family is comfortable to be

the dad may contribute by earning money and paying bills

the children may contribute by keeping up with their chores, and studies, and looking after each other

and in that home, I don't allow the father to think he deserves to eat more than the children or the mother because he buys the food

nor do I allow the mother to believe she deserves comfort more than her children or husband because she maintains the house

nor do I allow the children to believe they should have the major authority over their siblings because they help tend to them


instead, I view the home as ONE unit that all individuals contribute to (in different ways) for the stability and safety and comfort of ALL the family members,,,,



InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/09/14 10:42 AM

bad analogy

stealing requires something material that has been acquired through direct bartering,,,,

TAXES aren't a direct barter, they are a CONTRIBUTION to keep the country running or maintain it in a certain way

it is but one TYPE of contribution, and there are even several TYPES of taxes,, amongst which ALL Americans pay some

a better analogy

when I run a home (read like, a country, society)
I teach all to contribute

the mom may contribute by raising the children and keeping the home someplace the family is comfortable to be

the dad may contribute by earning money and paying bills

the children may contribute by keeping up with their chores, and studies, and looking after each other

and in that home, I don't allow the father to think he deserves to eat more than the children or the mother because he buys the food

nor do I allow the mother to believe she deserves comfort more than her children or husband because she maintains the house

nor do I allow the children to believe they should have the major authority over their siblings because they help tend to them


instead, I view the home as ONE unit that all individuals contribute to (in different ways) for the stability and safety and comfort of ALL the family members,,,,





If only it was all that simple

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/09/14 10:47 AM
or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,

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Sun 02/09/14 10:51 AM

or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


True Harmony...Some are good, some are badlaugh

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/09/14 10:53 AM

or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


whether it is stealing or not the tax code and the distribution of revenues are universally considered to be flawed.

that doesn't matter where you sit..

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/09/14 10:57 AM


or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


whether it is stealing or not the tax code and the distribution of revenues are universally considered to be flawed.

that doesn't matter where you sit..



it matters that the rich and uber rich use LOOPHOLES And corporations use INCENTIVES AND BREAKS,,, that cause the 'sheeple' to ***** about how little the poor pay in taxes

lol


I guarantee ya, as I have posted a dozen times, when I am a (income tax) payer, I will feel BLESSED AND GRATEFUL To finally be earning enough and to be in a class that others wont thumb their nose at or treat like crap

even though I doubt I will be working any harder than I ever did as a non(income tax) payer,,,:wink:

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:02 AM



or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


whether it is stealing or not the tax code and the distribution of revenues are universally considered to be flawed.

that doesn't matter where you sit..



it matters that the rich and uber rich use LOOPHOLES And corporations use INCENTIVES AND BREAKS,,, that cause the 'sheeple' to ***** about how little the poor pay in taxes

lol


I guarantee ya, as I have posted a dozen times, when I am a (income tax) payer, I will feel BLESSED AND GRATEFUL To finally be earning enough and to be in a class that others wont thumb their nose at or treat like crap

even though I doubt I will be working any harder than I ever did as a non(income tax) payer,,,:wink:


your first sentence was exactly my point.

you think people don't pay enough.

that's the tax code.

people that pay a huge amount in taxes feel they pay too much..

again the tax code..


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Sun 02/09/14 11:05 AM

bad analogy

stealing requires something material that has been acquired through direct bartering,,,,

TAXES aren't a direct barter, they are a CONTRIBUTION to keep the country running or maintain it in a certain way

it is but one TYPE of contribution, and there are even several TYPES of taxes,, amongst which ALL Americans pay some

a better analogy

when I run a home (read like, a country, society)
I teach all to contribute

the mom may contribute by raising the children and keeping the home someplace the family is comfortable to be

the dad may contribute by earning money and paying bills

the children may contribute by keeping up with their chores, and studies, and looking after each other

and in that home, I don't allow the father to think he deserves to eat more than the children or the mother because he buys the food

nor do I allow the mother to believe she deserves comfort more than her children or husband because she maintains the house

nor do I allow the children to believe they should have the major authority over their siblings because they help tend to them


instead, I view the home as ONE unit that all individuals contribute to (in different ways) for the stability and safety and comfort of ALL the family members,,,,





Really, so being a lazy butthole that lives off the stolen property of others isn't really stealing if it's done by the government at gunpoint and voluntary given by thieves to the undeserving by one that hasn't earned it. Sounds like the perfect socialist environment, "from each by their ability and to each by their need".

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:13 AM
see what I mean?

talk about non (income tax) payers

and the image is of thieving 'lazy' people who are 'undeserving' and didn't 'earn it'

lol


so, to answer the question

I was not referring to any of the above,, we cannot guarantee thieves or lazy people will not exist among the poor anymore than that they will not exist amongst the middle or upper class

and if you think income tax is 'stealing', I guess you can thank your founding fathers instead of whinging about the poor




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Sun 02/09/14 11:16 AM


or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


whether it is stealing or not the tax code and the distribution of revenues are universally considered to be flawed.

that doesn't matter where you sit..



Flawed, how about downright criminal. The founders, after the fiasco with the Articles of Federation, devised a very realistic plan of taxation to support the government by a combination of direct and indirect taxation.

But it wasn't until the hijack of the country by the bankers that the citizens became slaves to those bankers, the income tax, where the banks have the first claim to the fruit of your labors, anywhere from 15% up to 39.6% for 2013.

And to insure you pay, there is the IRS that enforces without due process of law, just brute force.

But it need not be so, the Supreme Court has said so so many times they refuse to even cert new cases. "The 16th Amendment purports no new methods of taxation". You only have to figure out what they said and you can be free.

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:17 AM

see what I mean?

talk about non (income tax) payers

and the image is of thieving 'lazy' people who are 'undeserving' and didn't 'earn it'

lol


so, to answer the question

I was not referring to any of the above,, we cannot guarantee thieves or lazy people will not exist among the poor anymore than that they will not exist amongst the middle or upper class

and if you think income tax is 'stealing', I guess you can thank your founding fathers instead of whinging about the poor






the founding fathers weren't around in 1913..

kinda hard to blame them..

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:21 AM



or as simple as 'stealing'

but, ya know, analogies are what they are,,,,


whether it is stealing or not the tax code and the distribution of revenues are universally considered to be flawed.

that doesn't matter where you sit..



Flawed, how about downright criminal. The founders, after the fiasco with the Articles of Federation, devised a very realistic plan of taxation to support the government by a combination of direct and indirect taxation.

But it wasn't until the hijack of the country by the bankers that the citizens became slaves to those bankers, the income tax, where the banks have the first claim to the fruit of your labors, anywhere from 15% up to 39.6% for 2013.

And to insure you pay, there is the IRS that enforces without due process of law, just brute force.

But it need not be so, the Supreme Court has said so so many times they refuse to even cert new cases. "The 16th Amendment purports no new methods of taxation". You only have to figure out what they said and you can be free.

yep,stop paying Taxes,and see how far you get!
you make sure you have nothing Taxable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:25 AM
Article I Section 8 Paragraph 1:

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

no photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:31 AM

see what I mean?

talk about non (income tax) payers

and the image is of thieving 'lazy' people who are 'undeserving' and didn't 'earn it'

lol


so, to answer the question

I was not referring to any of the above,, we cannot guarantee thieves or lazy people will not exist among the poor anymore than that they will not exist amongst the middle or upper class

and if you think income tax is 'stealing', I guess you can thank your founding fathers instead of whinging about the poor






And you haven't a clue of what you speak again, do you? The 16th Amendment had nothing to do with the founders, in fact they expressively forbid an income tax. The 16th Amendment was passed by Congress in 1909 and the Secretary mistakenly (actually criminally) certified as ratified in 1913. This is all documented but is blocked from getting in the court system by the IRS.

But I don't really care as it does not apply to me according to Title 26 of the US code. But what is significant is the time span, 1909 to 1913, that takeover by the bankers.

And as to the poor, that was the realm of the church and it worked really well until the government took over. Now we are robbed and they still starve. Go figure.

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/09/14 11:34 AM

Article I Section 8 Paragraph 1:

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States


that is for indirect taxes..

income taxes are direct taxes..

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