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OMG... what is wrong with you people????  I have read this whole thread and I have to tell you, most of it makes me sick!!!! how can you possibly think spanking is a good idea? it does NOT teach boundries, dicipline, respect, nor will it teach them proper punishment, and anything else you think it will teach them. What spanking teaches a child is this.... My parents don't love me I am a worthless person It's okay to hit people/things I took a class just a couple months ago.. it was a Nurturing Parenting class...and believe me.. we coverd this topic until there was nothing left of it. I'm gonna share this one thing with you and then be done.. I hope to God, you pay attention to it and LEARN from it. Why is Spanking Detrimental to Children? Children have the right to grow up in an environment free from violence, disrespect, and hurt. They have the right to expect adults will treat them as valued human beings who deserve compassion, understanding, and support. Parents would expect nothing less from their children; children should expect nothing less from their parents. The Greatest limitations of spanking have to do with the impact on the children's phychological development. The more frequent spankings occur, and the greater the severity of the spanking (beatings, thrashings), the grater the negitive impact. Volience breeds violence. Children learn how to be violent, and a large part of the learning comes in the home. Amen to that! |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child
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I have a question for people. This actually happened and my friend didn't know what to do.
She never hit her child she tried everything else. Finally at age 10, he did something bad and she told him that he was grounded and he said and I quote "F U B***ch" and walked out of the house and went to play. How would you deal with this situation? of course i didn't use all the words because I don't like to swear. I was only spanked 3 times in my entire life. 1) I was playing with matches under a leaky gas tank. (I was 4 btw) 2) I hit my mother 3) I came walking in at 3 in the morning, I was only 11 years old, my mom was terrified! and you know I am not afriad of my mom nor have I ever been, but I did learn a few things fom her. She grounded me and all that stuff for less serious things. Each time she spanked me it was out of fear that i might be dead or the fact that i hit her first and it was never out of anger. She never spanked my little sister, she is now 20 and treats my mom like dirt. Swears at her all the time and hits my mom, she stops when my mom calls me. I do not tolerate and will not tolerate anyone talking to my mom like that. |
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I have a question for people. This actually happened and my friend didn't know what to do. She never hit her child she tried everything else. Finally at age 10, he did something bad and she told him that he was grounded and he said and I quote "F U B***ch" and walked out of the house and went to play. How would you deal with this situation? of course i didn't use all the words because I don't like to swear. I was only spanked 3 times in my entire life. 1) I was playing with matches under a leaky gas tank. (I was 4 btw) 2) I hit my mother 3) I came walking in at 3 in the morning, I was only 11 years old, my mom was terrified! and you know I am not afriad of my mom nor have I ever been, but I did learn a few things fom her. She grounded me and all that stuff for less serious things. Each time she spanked me it was out of fear that i might be dead or the fact that i hit her first and it was never out of anger. She never spanked my little sister, she is now 20 and treats my mom like dirt. Swears at her all the time and hits my mom, she stops when my mom calls me. I do not tolerate and will not tolerate anyone talking to my mom like that. For one, I would have made sure that he didn't walk away. He sounds very troubled to be acting like that at that age. Is he acting up at school? He might need counseling. Also, who is he hanging around with to learn that language? |
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Why is Spanking Detrimental to Children? Children have the right to grow up in an environment free from violence, disrespect, and hurt. ROFLMAO. OK please DO THIS!!! And to actually complete your "perfect world scenerio" Make SURE you do NOT allow your children to watch TV, listen to the radio or any other forms of media..because most ALL of it contains violence disrespect and hurt. Then of course you would have to "homeschool" your children to keep them away from any of the violence disrespect and hurt found all over in every school. THEN, send you child out in the REAL WORLD where they will basically have NO CHANCE of survival and most likely implode mentally and emotionally because they are not even close to being equipped to handle LIFE!!! Oh and don't be surprised if suicide (as you see in mounting numbers of young people today) happens to your children because in what you are stating here, that is a very likely end to the path you are setting them on. Life is REAL. Wish and dream all you want..but if you do not prepair your child for the REAL WORLD it's YOUR FAULT!   Don't you for one flippin minute tell me what to do or how to raise my child!! I have been raising my child by MYSELF since birth! and I have been teaching my child the rights and wrongs of this world. my child is 4 and in no way am I goin to let him watch anything that would show someone shooting someone else or stabbing them, or anything to that nature. My child is more equipped to handle the 'real world' than you are sir!!! and my child would NEVER even think of suicide, because he is being raised in a loving home and being taught the correct forms of discipline, and how to handle things that happen daily. and the whole point to my orginal post was that it all starts at home! and the next time you want to quote me, make sure you read the whole thing and REALLY understand what its about.. because the statement you quoted is speaking of growing up in their home!! |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? |
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Edited by
Foliel
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Sun 01/20/08 09:44 PM
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She doesnt know, he's in counseling, but he also realizes that there is nothing she can do to him. Grounding him doesnt work, time out doesnt work, and theres to way to make him stay without touching him.
For the record I do NOT approve of spanking. I try to promote "hitting people does not solve anything" i even told my mm to have my sister rrested once for assault and battery on a handicapped person. |
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I had to think about this one for a bit. Supposedly kids from the ages of birth to about 3 are sponges. Everything they are exposed to is sucked up into their subconscious at this point of life. In other words, here's where's most, no all definitely, but most of the emotional baggage comes from. This is where your gut reflexes for lack of a better term are going to come from.
Whatever discipline you decide to choose with your kids (note different kids respond to different disciplines yes that's from my learning with attempting to teach my two kids) I request you know why and what you are doing. Are you simply reacting because that is how you were raised or are you consciously making a decision? Whatever you choose does affect your kids and then their kids, it really does create or break a chain with the choices you make. |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? Simply restrain without harm, it is no hard to do. Or call the Police |
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Don't you for one flippin minute tell me what to do or how to raise my child!! I have been raising my child by MYSELF since birth! and I have been teaching my child the rights and wrongs of this world. my child is 4 and in no way am I goin to let him watch anything that would show someone shooting someone else or stabbing them, or anything to that nature. My child is more equipped to handle the 'real world' than you are sir!!! and my child would NEVER even think of suicide, because he is being raised in a loving home and being taught the correct forms of discipline, and how to handle things that happen daily. and the whole point to my orginal post was that it all starts at home! and the next time you want to quote me, make sure you read the whole thing and REALLY understand what its about.. because the statement you quoted is speaking of growing up in their home!! Yes growing up in thier home..in which there is TV, radio and other outside sources other than YOU controlling it. Just like in school. HELLO???? Know why the teen suicide rate is going off the charts?? They can't COPE!!! And why? because people like you have an UNREALISTIC view of some "perfect world" scenerio. You have the internet, all you have to do is LOOK IT UP..the STATS DO NOT LIE! It is REAL! So don't argue with me..argue with THEM! 
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Edited by
Sumthingdifferent
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Sun 01/20/08 09:53 PM
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? Simply restrain without harm, it is no hard to do. Or call the Police Call the police??? And expect them to do what??? They can;t do anything unless you have him arrested and taken into Juvy..and there he's going to see a chitload of violence. And you can only restrain him when you are around..what when you are not around and he keeps doing it (again, have seen hundreds of these cases first hand..it DOES happen) So you going to have him arrested??/ |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? Simply restrain without harm, it is no hard to do. Or call the Police Call the police??? And expect them to do what??? They can;t do anything unless you have him arrested and taken into Juvy..and there he's going to see a chitload of violence. So you going to have him arrested??/ that would be better than beating him thats for sure |
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Don't you for one flippin minute tell me what to do or how to raise my child!! I have been raising my child by MYSELF since birth! and I have been teaching my child the rights and wrongs of this world. my child is 4 and in no way am I goin to let him watch anything that would show someone shooting someone else or stabbing them, or anything to that nature. My child is more equipped to handle the 'real world' than you are sir!!! and my child would NEVER even think of suicide, because he is being raised in a loving home and being taught the correct forms of discipline, and how to handle things that happen daily. and the whole point to my orginal post was that it all starts at home! and the next time you want to quote me, make sure you read the whole thing and REALLY understand what its about.. because the statement you quoted is speaking of growing up in their home!! Yes growing up in thier home..in which there is TV, radio and other outside sources other than YOU controlling it. Just like in school. HELLO???? Know why the teen suicide rate is going off the charts?? They can't COPE!!! And why? because people like you have an UNREALISTIC view of some "perfect world" scenerio. You have the internet, all you have to do is LOOK IT UP..the STATS DO NOT LIE! It is REAL! So don't argue with me..argue with THEM! do you truely think I am Stupid or something? and do not disrespect me again or I will take the matter to a higher power. IF the child is taught properly from home, then they will know when the outside influences they comes in contact with.. they will know what is right and what is wrong!! can you wrap your head around that? |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? Simply restrain without harm, it is no hard to do. Or call the Police Call the police??? And expect them to do what??? They can;t do anything unless you have him arrested and taken into Juvy..and there he's going to see a chitload of violence. So you going to have him arrested??/ that would be better than beating him thats for sure Beating him I agree..but "spanking" no way! Its clear you have never even contemplated what goes on even in juvenile halls. Take a trip., go educate yourself to know better of what you speak. If you had a son and he went to juvy, unless he was extremely tough he would most likely be beat, gang raped and affiliate himself into gang style violence within 1-2 weeks. and that is NO exaggeration..ask the police and they will tell you the same things! Again, my only point here is to show that "spanking" in the correct context should be an OPTION. Just like war, its something we all hate, but it always reamins an OPTION swhen forced into it. |
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I dont think I have ever declared anything as such a waste of time until now...
This is pointless, worthless, and inexcuseable...Point is, even the thought of raising a hand to a small child does nothing expect build some idiotic ego boost and power trip. For those that feel manipulating a child by hitting them?....I truly pity you. |
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it's just insane to think that it's "ok" to hit a child Once again I must pose a question in earnest. Please answer the one I asked regarding what would you do with that 15 year old boy in the scenero presented. Tell me everything that you would try..I want to see if a "spanking", when everything else fails (and it CAN, I have seen hundreds of first hand cases like it) then what are you going to do? Simply restrain without harm, it is no hard to do. Or call the Police Call the police??? And expect them to do what??? They can;t do anything unless you have him arrested and taken into Juvy..and there he's going to see a chitload of violence. So you going to have him arrested??/ that would be better than beating him thats for sure Beating him I agree..but "spanking" no way! Its clear you have never even contemplated what goes on even in juvenile halls. Take a trip., go educate yourself to know better of what you speak. If you had a son and he went to juvy, unless he was extremely tough he would most likely be beat, gang raped and affiliate himself into gang style violence within 1-2 weeks. and that is NO exaggeration..ask the police and they will tell you the same things! Again, my only point here is to show that "spanking" in the correct context should be an OPTION. Just like war, its something we all hate, but it always reamins an OPTION swhen forced into it.  spank a 15 y/o. Please I am a very well educated mand and do not need further education on "spanking". You say spank, I say beat..Either way? It's hitting and shouldnt be tolerated..People that hit their child should get hit by someone their own size...Now THAT would be justice
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do you truely think I am Stupid or something? and do not disrespect me again or I will take the matter to a higher power. IF the child is taught properly from home, then they will know when the outside influences they comes in contact with.. they will know what is right and what is wrong!! can you wrap your head around that? OK I have to take this one point by point.... "do you truely think I am Stupid or something? and do not disrespect me again or I will take the matter to a higher power. " Is this a "trick" question???? And when you say "disrespect" you, that really sounds like "ghetto" jabber .. am I misteken? (thats a true question..not being sarcastic) "IF the child is taught properly from home, then they will know when the outside influences they comes in contact with.. they will know what is right and what is wrong!!" I do agree with this, but once again, it does not always work out that way. "can you wrap your head around that? " Sure I can, now go look at the stats and argue with them. I am not the one that makes them. |
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As i said my mom only hit me 3 times in my entire life. At age 12, i was taken away from my mom and put in a foster home. They said she lacked discipline and was unable to care for me.
Is this fair? not really Did it teach me anything? Nope Did I grow up any better? nope the only thing it taught me is that, you try your best to raise your kids and it's never enough. I think i grew up really well as I do not believe in hitting people. It serves no real purpose but I also woud not have my child arrested as that could put a rift beween us that may never be repaired. Do i think my mom didn't love me, when she spanked me? Hell no I do agree that the topic has become pointless, everyone will aise their child as they see fit. BTW my mom is handicapped, not saying this for pity, just stating a fact. I love her fr how hard she worked to rais us by herself. I only hope that my little sister learns to respect my mom and that hitting people is not necessary under any circumstance. |
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spank a 15 y/o. Please I am a very well educated mand and do not need further education on "spanking". You say spank, I say beat..Either way? It's hitting and shouldnt be tolerated..People that hit their child should get hit by someone their own size...Now THAT would be justice Again, you have no answer. Why?? It is a valid question. |
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Edited by
mommyof1
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Sun 01/20/08 10:18 PM
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no it was not 'ghetto' at all, and no it's not a trick question.
would you rather I said something else? such as dont treat me like and idiot, or something like that? You're right, sometimes it doesn't work out like that, but then sometimes it does. and I have enough confidence in my parenting to know that my son would do the right thing when that time comes. I know what the stats are, I watch them every year. It makes me sad that children are doing that to themselve, but even more, it makes me sad that the parent it not there for thier child |
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