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God is NOT a loving god.
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You have that a bit mixed up my friend. - His "angel" didn't tempt them. He was done kicked out of Heaven prior. At that point, he was no longer an "angel" or in servitude of God. - Is a child not responsible for his/her own actions regardless of whom might have tempted them or told/ask them too do it? And what "real" punishment do you feel in your life today from this? So... God sent an exiled angel(one exiled for murdering another angel) down to play with his ignorant humans. That sounds responsible! He made a curious creature, put it near a tree and said, don't touch the apples. The hell did he think was going to happen? Humans would have been no different from any other animals if they didn't touch the apple and as explained, they only did so after god did the equivalent of sending a maximum security prisoner into a kindergarten. God is either an idiot, willfully ignorant or just plain doesn't give a crap. "And what "real" punishment do you feel in your life today from this?" A lifetime of servitude to the rich and famous. Instead of living a life of peace in the garden we live stressful lives trying to keep jobs that we hate just to survive through lives that many of us don't even care about all because most of us fear death too much to opt out early. Few privileged humans get to be in that rich and/or famous crowd or find love early in their lives or live in ignorant bliss under the umbrella of a non-existent entity but that's not the case for the majority. So... God sent an exiled angel(one exiled for murdering another angel) down to play with his ignorant humans. That sounds responsible! Where do you get the notion God "sent" anyone to do anything such as this? And Satan wasn't exiled for murdering another angel, where did you get that notion as well? Few privileged humans get to be in that rich and/or famous crowd or find love early in their lives What does right and famous have anything to do with love? Think it takes either of the two have anything to do with love? A lifetime of servitude to the rich and famous. Servitude to the rich and famous? I personally don't serve anyone/anything but God almighty. Sorry you feel you need to serve the rich and famous. And after all that, none of that has anything to do with God. God didn't make these people rich, or you poor, or me poor, or anything to do with money in any way. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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CowboyGH
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Furthermore, as I said before, if the Passion story were true, taking it at face-value still doesn't demonstrate a loving God, for he had his son killed in order to pay back a debt to himself! That's not very loving. On the contrary, it is indeed loving. The Passion story tells us that God took the punishment that we deserve. On the contrary, it is not. Rather than have his son killed in order to pay back a debt to himself, he should have just forgiven the debt. Furthermore, it is not at all loving for god to hold all of us accountable for Adam and Eve's ****-up. Particularly since said ****-up supposedly came about as a result of one of his angels screwing around with Eve's mind. Sort of like a father letting his teenage son manipulate his toddler daughter into doing something wrong, and then holding the toddler responsible for it. You have that a bit mixed up my friend. - His "angel" didn't tempt them. He was done kicked out of Heaven prior. At that point, he was no longer an "angel" or in servitude of God. - The angels are not "children" of God. They are a creation. Only man/woman are called children of God. - Your example of a father letting his teenage son falls on it's face. As again angels are not "children" of God. They are a creation for a purpose, purpose depending on the angel in question. - Is a child not responsible for his/her own actions regardless of whom might have tempted them or told/ask them too do it? And what "real" punishment do you feel in your life today from this? - Upset that you're not a mortal? - Upset you have to get your own food? Kill/hunt, ect.. now in store? - Upset you get sick? - Upset women feel the pain of child birth? What side effect of coming out of the garden has negatively effected you in such a way to spend your day's time putting God down with insults? And he didn't "have" his son do anything. Jesus willfully took that cross upon himself. And if it wouldn't have been for mankind's actions or inability to obey, that would not have had to happen. Or their lack of faith in Jesus being God or whom he claimed to be. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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Furthermore, as I said before, if the Passion story were true, taking it at face-value still doesn't demonstrate a loving God, for he had his son killed in order to pay back a debt to himself! That's not very loving. On the contrary, it is indeed loving. The Passion story tells us that God took the punishment that we deserve. amen <3 |
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I'm sorry, Sir, but you have it totally "***-backwards" there. As children, we have no concept of God whatsoever until someone plants the notion into our brains. Furthermore, while the percentage of people who self-identify as "atheist" or "agnostic" has grown in the last several years, we are still very much in the minority. Again, you have it backwards. If anything, societal pressure tries to mold our collective thinking into accepting the idea of God, despite the lack of evidence. Just one quick example that comes to my mind...good luck in seeking a Presidential nomination here in the US if you are an atheist, regardless of your qualifications. Ain't gonna' happen. While I agree with you on the first part, Atheist culture is growing largely in developed countries. While in countries like Africa and Asia and many others, god/religion are still very common belief, countries like Canada and the US are much more enlightened. There is still way more religious people than there should be, I'd say give it another 50-100 years and religious people in developed countries will be very much in the minority. People are tired of giving their lives to someone/something that gives them nothing in return besides an after-death promise. It's like those terrorists that offed themselves and all those other people because of the promise of 72 virgins. That is just the prime example of how gullible people can be when it comes to religion, like lambs to the slaughter. On a side note, them virgins only gonna be virgins for not even the first year, a few thousand years down the road it'll be like a hot dog down a hallway. People are tired of giving their lives to someone/something that gives them nothing in return besides an after-death promise. Ask an ye shall receive? Matthew 7:7 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: Matthew 21:22 22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive After-death promises you state? |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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I'm sorry, Sir, but you have it totally "***-backwards" there. As children, we have no concept of God whatsoever until someone plants the notion into our brains. Furthermore, while the percentage of people who self-identify as "atheist" or "agnostic" has grown in the last several years, we are still very much in the minority. Again, you have it backwards. If anything, societal pressure tries to mold our collective thinking into accepting the idea of God, despite the lack of evidence. Just one quick example that comes to my mind...good luck in seeking a Presidential nomination here in the US if you are an atheist, regardless of your qualifications. Ain't gonna' happen. While I agree with you on the first part, Atheist culture is growing largely in developed countries. While in countries like Africa and Asia and many others, god/religion are still very common belief, countries like Canada and the US are much more enlightened. There is still way more religious people than there should be, I'd say give it another 50-100 years and religious people in developed countries will be very much in the minority. People are tired of giving their lives to someone/something that gives them nothing in return besides an after-death promise. It's like those terrorists that offed themselves and all those other people because of the promise of 72 virgins. That is just the prime example of how gullible people can be when it comes to religion, like lambs to the slaughter. On a side note, them virgins only gonna be virgins for not even the first year, a few thousand years down the road it'll be like a hot dog down a hallway. People are tired of giving their lives to someone/something that gives them nothing in return besides an after-death promise. Ask an ye shall receive? |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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I'm not saying that it has any benefit. My point is that you made a very definite statement about the gender of God and the angels- Gender only has any importance to our physical self. Spiritually speaking gender has absolutely no bearing, meaning, or importance. -and I'm asking how you can be so certain about this? Especially since the Bible always refer to Yahweh and the angels as being males, rather than referring to them with gender-neutral descriptors. This might seem a trivial point, but it really isn't, for it speaks to a larger point, which is that there is much that you state with similar certainty, that is actually not supported by any solid evidence. Also have to keep in mind context of things and or when they were written. In the day and age the scriptures were written, the male was the dominate factor. So therefor our mortal eyes/society, God and the angels are presented as "males". 1 Gender has no real relevance too either. 2. God being the main authority, the ruler, ect was presented as male to have dominance. But again sexuality has no point or reason beyond that as again no reproduction was done in that fashion. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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There's no known culture that has not made reference at one time or the other to spirit beings. I'm well aware of that. Do you believe in all of those stories? If not, why not? How do you determine which ones are true and which ones aren't? Please note that I am not saying that spirit beings do not exist. I don't know whether they do or not. However, since there is a dearth of actual evidence for such a widely attested phenomenon, my default position on it is that there are probably other explanations for what people are seeing. I therefore maintain that belief in evil and apparitions is universal. My point was that not everyone believes in apparitions. You strongly implied that we all believe in such things to make your case. That said, could you please draw my attention to a group of people (a country, organization, etc) without a leader/head/etc? The animal world inclusive. This comparison does not support your earlier statement. You said: For us all to believe in the existence of evil, and apparitions of all sorts, then there must be one who sits above them all. As I said, just because many people believe in spirit beings, it does not automatically prove that there must be one who rules over them. Do you see the point? The second part of your statement is a non-sequitur. As for your example, yes, there are rulers, or pack leaders, in every group of people or animals on the planet, but there is no ONE leader over all the sub-groups. And that's what you were saying, because you're trying to prove God's existence. Not commenting on his loving nature was diliberate. But let's look at this, do you being a loving and caring father not punish your children when necessary, even though you know they'll hurt? Isn't that why it's called punishment? If you were to defend your child or relative against an attack, and you did in the process inflict pain on the intruder, does that make you not loving? As a loving father, I certainly wouldn't drown my children, and all their pets, as a form of punishment. And I certainly wouldn't punish one child for the misbehavior of another child. I'm African, and here in africa, there's a show of supernatural powers. God exists because I've seen him at work several times when his name had been invoked. I don't think they all happened by chance. He's been called upon to counter supernatural powers, to do the unbelievable. I have seen it, and I believe. It's not magic. You've got some great men of God yonder. Do your in depth investigation about their miracles through Christ. Sorry, but I HAVE researched this topic, and continue to do so. And you know what I have found? So far, every supposed miracle worker has either failed to be able to produce any "miracles" when put in a situation where the phenomenon could be observed and/or recorded scientifically, or their "miracles" have been exposed as sleight-of-hand tricks. Also...do you not see the conflict in your own statement above? Let's lay it out. You assert that: 1. In Africa, there is a show of supernatural powers.(Definite statement.) 2. God exists, because you have seen him at work when his name had been invoked. (Also a definite statement.) 3. You don't think that these things happened by chance. (Not a definite statement. A speculation. Why the sudden uncertainty?) 4. God has been called upon to counter supernatural powers, etc. (Another definite statement. Your evidence for this assertion, please?) 5. You have seen it, and you believe. (You "believe." A declaration of faith, not certainty.) See what I mean? You don't seem to be 100% convinced of your own assertions, first of all. Second, some of your assertions are dependent upon things for which there is no tangible evidence. Something to think about. Is he a "HE"? The answer is a BIG "NO". It's just allusion to man being the head. It is stated in the Bible that God is not a man. The same reason Christ is referred to as the Groom, and we his followers, the bride. Okay. I'm glad to see that you are able to admit that even the question of whether or not God has a gender is unknown. Perhaps the term has no meaning when it comes to God. Who knows? That's my point. It's pretty difficult to forge a close relationship with a being about which we can't even know something so basic as its gender. Or, prove its very existence. Gender only has any importance to our physical self. Spiritually speaking gender has absolutely no bearing, meaning, or importance. That's a very definite statement. You know this how? If it has no "bearing, meaning, or importance, why does the Bible always refer to Yahweh and the angels as being males? Why not refer to them with gender-neutral descriptors? "Gender" is important in the "breading" or (spreading) form. Outside of that, especially in a spiritual "gender neutrality" area, what benefit would it have? |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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Are you absolutely certain that it is God/Jesus that you are talking to? It could be another spirit being, tricking you. What does Jesus look like? Does he speak to you in English? If so, why didn't he just skip the Bible, with its many translation issues, and talk directly to all of us, in our native language, in the first place? Why does he speak to you, and not the rest of us? What makes you so special? (I don't mean that as an attack. It's a legitimate question.) - Yes I'm absolutely sure it is God talking to me. - Irrelevant what he looks like - Yes he speaks English, along all or any other variables of communication. - The bible is a put together comglomeration of various letters, messages, or "epistles". It wasn't God himself that put the bible together. It was man, but in an attempt to bring us closer too knowing God. - God speaks to everyone. Listen and you will learn :). Just most of us automatically/naturally block out God. Because the world/society has taught us such. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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There's no known culture that has not made reference at one time or the other to spirit beings. I'm well aware of that. Do you believe in all of those stories? If not, why not? How do you determine which ones are true and which ones aren't? Please note that I am not saying that spirit beings do not exist. I don't know whether they do or not. However, since there is a dearth of actual evidence for such a widely attested phenomenon, my default position on it is that there are probably other explanations for what people are seeing. I therefore maintain that belief in evil and apparitions is universal. My point was that not everyone believes in apparitions. You strongly implied that we all believe in such things to make your case. That said, could you please draw my attention to a group of people (a country, organization, etc) without a leader/head/etc? The animal world inclusive. This comparison does not support your earlier statement. You said: For us all to believe in the existence of evil, and apparitions of all sorts, then there must be one who sits above them all. As I said, just because many people believe in spirit beings, it does not automatically prove that there must be one who rules over them. Do you see the point? The second part of your statement is a non-sequitur. As for your example, yes, there are rulers, or pack leaders, in every group of people or animals on the planet, but there is no ONE leader over all the sub-groups. And that's what you were saying, because you're trying to prove God's existence. Not commenting on his loving nature was diliberate. But let's look at this, do you being a loving and caring father not punish your children when necessary, even though you know they'll hurt? Isn't that why it's called punishment? If you were to defend your child or relative against an attack, and you did in the process inflict pain on the intruder, does that make you not loving? As a loving father, I certainly wouldn't drown my children, and all their pets, as a form of punishment. And I certainly wouldn't punish one child for the misbehavior of another child. I'm African, and here in africa, there's a show of supernatural powers. God exists because I've seen him at work several times when his name had been invoked. I don't think they all happened by chance. He's been called upon to counter supernatural powers, to do the unbelievable. I have seen it, and I believe. It's not magic. You've got some great men of God yonder. Do your in depth investigation about their miracles through Christ. Sorry, but I HAVE researched this topic, and continue to do so. And you know what I have found? So far, every supposed miracle worker has either failed to be able to produce any "miracles" when put in a situation where the phenomenon could be observed and/or recorded scientifically, or their "miracles" have been exposed as sleight-of-hand tricks. Also...do you not see the conflict in your own statement above? Let's lay it out. You assert that: 1. In Africa, there is a show of supernatural powers.(Definite statement.) 2. God exists, because you have seen him at work when his name had been invoked. (Also a definite statement.) 3. You don't think that these things happened by chance. (Not a definite statement. A speculation. Why the sudden uncertainty?) 4. God has been called upon to counter supernatural powers, etc. (Another definite statement. Your evidence for this assertion, please?) 5. You have seen it, and you believe. (You "believe." A declaration of faith, not certainty.) See what I mean? You don't seem to be 100% convinced of your own assertions, first of all. Second, some of your assertions are dependent upon things for which there is no tangible evidence. Something to think about. Is he a "HE"? The answer is a BIG "NO". It's just allusion to man being the head. It is stated in the Bible that God is not a man. The same reason Christ is referred to as the Groom, and we his followers, the bride. Okay. I'm glad to see that you are able to admit that even the question of whether or not God has a gender is unknown. Perhaps the term has no meaning when it comes to God. Who knows? That's my point. It's pretty difficult to forge a close relationship with a being about which we can't even know something so basic as its gender. Or, prove its very existence. Gender only has any importance to our physical self. Spiritually speaking gender has absolutely no bearing, meaning, or importance. |
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Driven by God...
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So, God likes looking at penises, eh? Perhaps God is female, after all. Or, gay. Come to think of it...perhaps all that stuff in the OT about stoning homosexuals was a result of his own feelings of self-hate and guilt. Yes, I admit it, I'm just winding you up with that one. Couldn't resist. Why would he like looking at penises in general? And where did you come up with this inclination? If he liked looking at penises don't you think he would just create one or more too look at if that was his intentions? Why or how did you come up with a question if I may inquire as such? I was just kidding you on that part, Sir. lol ok sorry, it's just kind of hard too see humor in a text/typing kind of discussion. My apologies lol |
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Driven by God...
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So, God likes looking at penises, eh? Perhaps God is female, after all. Or, gay. Come to think of it...perhaps all that stuff in the OT about stoning homosexuals was a result of his own feelings of self-hate and guilt. Yes, I admit it, I'm just winding you up with that one. Couldn't resist. Why would he like looking at penises in general? And where did you come up with this inclination? If he liked looking at penises don't you think he would just create one or more too look at if that was his intentions? Why or how did you come up with a question if I may inquire as such? |
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Driven by God...
Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tmommy ,everything and everyone evangelises. Every time we put forward our opinion on any issue we are indirectly preaching. For example, every time you stand in the mirror it "preaches" to you that you are a product of intelligent design by an intelligent maker. Because the beautiful woman called Tmommy in the mirror is not an accident but exists by design.  I agree with you about Tmommy, as she is fine, but I have to part company with you on "intelligent design by an intelligent maker." What kind of intelligent maker would do dumb **** like create men with foreskins and then tell them that they have to snip them off?! Genesis 17 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. But this isn't an instruction for people in general. This was a specific instruction too a specific person/group of persons for a specific reason. 4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Acts 15:5 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. Circumcision in this context was a "Jewish" thing and is not reinforced in the NT "where Christians' salvation begins" as laws in OT are fulfilled in the NT and Jesus confirms this when he was on the cross right before he gave up the ghost when he says "It is finished". There is no instruction in the NT from Jesus on circumcision. We are saved now through faith, rather then works... including the work of circumcision. It was purely a "display" to God for the above reasons mentioned in Genesis, that we are no longer held accountable for. Thus why we are made with foreskin and was once told too remove it. It's not a "malfunction" in God's design or anything of sorts. Just a way for them too have displayed their gratitude and faith. Acts 15 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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Again, everyone is headed to an eternity of non-existence unless they accept Jesus' gift of eternal life. People aren't "damned" for not believing. Yes Jesus says "Deny me before man I will deny you before the father". But that is not "damning" anyone. Jesus will only let the one's that know him into Heaven. That's a load of horse crap though. No one "know[s]" Jesus unless they believe everything they read in ancient storybooks and even then they still don't "know" him, they only know from what they've read since there's no current day proof. How's this for a theory; your god did exist but he's dead and we're all damned to an eternity in the grave regardless. It's only God who can convince a man as he did to Saul. May he make that grace available. I agree with you on that much I suppose.. I'm waiting.... That's a load of horse crap though. No one "know[s]" Jesus unless they believe everything they read in ancient storybooks and even then they still don't "know" him, they only know from what they've read since there's no current day proof. How's this for a theory; your god did exist but he's dead and we're all damned to an eternity in the grave regardless. Sure we know Jesus and it's not just from a book. The book/bible only lets you know about Jesus. Getting to know Jesus is a daily walk with him. |
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For example, we humans obviously exist, yet there is no one human who sits above us all. Sure there is, Donald Trump XD! Not commenting on his loving nature was diliberate. But let's look at this, do you being a loving and caring father not punish your children when necessary, even though you know they'll hurt? Isn't that why it's called punishment? If you were to defend your child or relative against an attack, and you did in the process inflict pain on the intruder, does that make you not loving? If I was a father, punishment would come in the form of taking away smartphones for a week, not eternal damnation. There's a bit of a gap in your comparison there... That said, could you please draw my attention to a group of people (a country, organization, etc) without a leader/head/etc? The animal world inclusive. That comparison is also invalid. For it to be valid then there would have to be a bunch of different gods that rule over spirits in different regions. Jokes aside there is no one human that rules over all humans. If I was a father, punishment would come in the form of taking away smartphones for a week, not eternal damnation. There's a bit of a gap in your comparison there... We aren't punished. We are rewarded. There is no eternal "damnation". There is however "eternal death". That is the end for all of us unless we receive eternal life through Jesus Christ. Eternal life is a gift. I find that you keep getting caught up in minor differences. Magic, miracle; Santa, God; Damnation, death. If you do not accept the unlikely existence of a god you are damned to an eternity of non-existence. Tell me that's not god being a dick "you don't believe I exist, now you don't exist, LULZ!". God is like the world's biggest troll. I find that you keep getting caught up in minor differences. Magic, miracle; Santa, God; Damnation, death. If you do not accept the unlikely existence of a god you are damned to an eternity of non-existence. Tell me that's not god being a dick "you don't believe I exist, now you don't exist, LULZ!". God is like the world's biggest troll. Magic and miracles aren't the same thing, Santa and God aren't the same thing, damnation and death aren't the same thing.... what minor differences am I not seeing? As there are no "minor" differences among the mentioned, as they are not the same thing, there is only major differences. Again, everyone is headed to an eternity of non-existence unless they accept Jesus' gift of eternal life. People aren't "damned" for not believing. Yes Jesus says "Deny me before man I will deny you before the father". But that is not "damning" anyone. Jesus will only let the one's that know him into Heaven. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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For example, we humans obviously exist, yet there is no one human who sits above us all. Sure there is, Donald Trump XD! Not commenting on his loving nature was diliberate. But let's look at this, do you being a loving and caring father not punish your children when necessary, even though you know they'll hurt? Isn't that why it's called punishment? If you were to defend your child or relative against an attack, and you did in the process inflict pain on the intruder, does that make you not loving? If I was a father, punishment would come in the form of taking away smartphones for a week, not eternal damnation. There's a bit of a gap in your comparison there... That said, could you please draw my attention to a group of people (a country, organization, etc) without a leader/head/etc? The animal world inclusive. That comparison is also invalid. For it to be valid then there would have to be a bunch of different gods that rule over spirits in different regions. Jokes aside there is no one human that rules over all humans. If I was a father, punishment would come in the form of taking away smartphones for a week, not eternal damnation. There's a bit of a gap in your comparison there... We aren't punished. We are rewarded. There is no eternal "damnation". There is however "eternal death". That is the end for all of us unless we receive eternal life through Jesus Christ. Eternal life is a gift. |
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Judge not?
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. you paraprhrased correctly In John 7:24, Jesus said "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment Jesus said to have 'righteous' judgment,, we are given the whole text of the Bible to help us discern and use such judgment,,,we can use that knowledge to discern/judge actions and words on their biblical merit. jesus ,many times told others to SIN no more, which was judging that something was a sin,,,but not judging what that persons fate with God would be I analyze it with the example of a court,,,the jury decides if one is guilty of a crime,,the judge decides the penalty for it we are never to be the JUDGE for only God is, we are the jury who uses the Bible as our definition for whether a crime (sin) is committed or not But careful of how you judge if you wish too do so Matthew 7:2 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. |
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A lot of these African gay haters have no qualms about having sex with married women. Homophobia was introduced to Africa by Christian and Muslim fundamentalists. Before then, Africa had no concept of homosexuality. It was just sex. It's not a homophobia my friend. What could be a "fear" in someone wanting too be with you regardless of the gender? It's about the purpose of "sex"... God said "fill the Earth" this can not be done through homosexuality. And that is purely what sex is for. Reproduction. Yes it joins two on a personal level as well, but the focal point of sex in itself is for reproduction and "filling the Earth" |
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Gay marriage is not from god and it is not a plan of god we africans we follow the plan of god for marriage not man made plan for marriage and we use bible as our guidance book for marriage yes those people who do gay marriage are sinners they will be punished by god bcoz they are cotradicting god. Seems that it is a sin to be looking for someone else while married in Gods Eyes as well!~~~~ Guess some need to check their own sins before condemning others... No one has the high hand when judging~~ When that times comes God may leave those at the pearly gates as well for condemning those due to their lifestyle instead of opening their arms, for we all have sinned... I give sympathy for you or a relative/friend as it seems TxsGal you've taken this post a little personal in one sorts or other. It is a sin for "looking for someone else while married in Gods Eyes as well, actually included in the same verse 1Corinthians 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Fornicators = obviously someone who fornicates, and fornication is one having a sexual spouse that is married, or a married someone that has another sexual partner. Nobody is condemning anyone Txsgal, just expressing the information/beliefs there of. Homosexuality would actually be at the same "level" as "fornication" having sex with someone outside of your marriage responsibilities. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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Just curious how you would know Noah's story was made from these others. How is it not possible these are "changed" stories of Noah essentially changed a little through time as of course it would have been transferred verbally or with none too very little "written/documented" information on such a matter due too lack of technology or ways of keeping track of such things in that day and age? And also curious why you specifically deem Noah's story to be "newer" then these other possible off branches? How is it possible to have precise dating too when each of these accounts occurred in relation too the ancient documents/references we have of them? Of course carbon dating for the documents in themselves, but were/are they dated on when the flood actually occurred? Man, you cling to god like a life-raft in every scenario. Like everything must be connected to god and not the slightest possibility that the story of god isn't simply connected to everything else. Let me ask you this, do you still believe in Santa Clause? If not, why? They exist on the same parallel. Santa is around to make sure that children behave throughout the year and god is there to take over and make sure people are relatively good throughout their lives. Santa has parents,mall Santas and a crap-load of advertisements. God has the pope, the Vatican, JW's(door to door god salespeople), priests and a number of other god pushers. It takes a lot more to keep people believing in magical things past the age of 12. Why make forms of belittling, insulting remarks? The same could be said for you in reverse rolls. Like nothing must be connected to God and not the slightest possibility he exists. So I guess you've ended our discussion here, pointing the conversation into more directly belittling one's belief(s) rather then just posting things that pertain to the op of this thread. Have a pleasant day my friend. |
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God is NOT a loving god.
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https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/worldwide-flood-evidence/ May be a "biased" site if you will. But the evidences included inside the site can not possibly be "biased". The evidence might not be biased, but the interpretation of the evidence certainly is. If I wanted to invest the time, I could debunk every one of the items on their list. Since I really don't care to invest that much time on it, I'll just explain how their conclusion is incorrect on item #1: The presence of fossils of sea creatures found at high altitudes is not the result of a worldwide flood. They are the result of plate tectonics. The plates colliding with each other formed mountains, like this:  As a result, some land mass that had been underwater jutted up out of the water. Thus, the fossils of sea creatures at high altitudes is not the result of the water once rising above the mountains, but rather the mountains rising up out of the water. If you care to, you can easily find explanations for the other incorrect conclusions on their list. I understand that's a possibility, not denying it. Just what's the coincidence it happened in multiple areas throughout the entire world at relatively the same time? |
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