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Sat 07/13/19 06:15 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Sat 07/13/19 06:16 PM





Insurance does not pay for Viagra/Cialis. A woman's best resource is her Doctor. Men and women both tend to blame it is just the ageing process on many things from sex to shortness of breath when in most cases there is a medical condition causing the problem and can be dealt with. Eventually they will realize that when they experience a significant medical emergency. There are many good, informative articles available for both genders.

You might find this useful: https://www.mayoclinic.org/search/search-results?q=Sexual%20dysfunction%2C%20female


The people *I* know that have taken Viagra/ Cialis (friend of friends of mine)..it was paid for by insurncae..
One guy got some kind of implant paid for by insurance

I merely took issue with your assertion that is is only women who experience problems sex-wise as they get older..
It is true it happenes to both genders, but it guys it's considered "let's fix it...what can I take/ do to get 'ol boner there up and ready?"

In women, it is many times assumed she just hates sex, is disintetrested in sex, it's a mental thing, stuff like that..
I *can* tell you before I finally found a doctor who LISTENED to me (back in the 80's) and found out I had endometriosis....I can't tell you *how many* doctors claimed my pain during sex was due to "resentment of my partner" or lack of lubrication...neither of which were true...
They suggested I go couples counseling.whoa

Had the laser surgery....was pain free ever after.
A bit came back some 20 years later..had that bit lasered off too... :thumbsup:


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Sat 07/13/19 09:00 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Sat 07/13/19 09:01 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/sex-less-likely-and-less-satisfying-as-women-hit-older-age/ar-AAEbE6E?li=BBnba9O

Seems like the odds get worse with each year a lady ages after 50.


If you read the article, it is insightful..

*Men's* sexual dysfuntion is given WAY more research and credibilty than women's..which is usually written off as she's a frigid b**ch who never really liked sex anyway... noway

With men, they just throw a pill at it...no one questions what is actually causing his impotence.
(even though the actual causes may be many...heart issues, diabetes, depression, performance anxiety)

Women have no such pill..
There was one in research....I am not sure if it actually made it to the market.

There *are* real, physiological changes that take place after menopause that do make it less enjoyabvle for many....and, I know for a *fact* that insurance does not pay for Premarin (but has no issue paying for Viagra/ Cialis)

Instead of guys just assuming woman aren't interested in sex at that age...maybe a bit of looking into *why* would be better.




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Thu 07/11/19 04:57 PM

Anyways, he is considered top dog scientist/zoologist and he claims animal homosexuality is a load of crap!!




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Thu 07/11/19 11:32 AM


Iam indeed aware what science claims. What I laugh at about these specific animals, is that they at times are able to be male or female. Not bi-gender, but survival mechanism. If there are low numbers of either the males or females, most of these animals have the ability to be one or the other in order to reproduce.

But for the typical person reading such articles, they do not get past the headlines claiming homosexual animals. They "Are Not" homosexual, they are able to preserve their species.

Most are amphibians that go through several stages before getting to adulthood. And even as they go through this process of becoming an egg, tadpole, a couple other stages before a frog, they can determine their own sex by the population of what surrounds them. If there are more males, they can become female. And then in adulthood, they can be both to reproduce.

In my opinion, this is God throwing out the proverbial bone. Some people will see this and make a judgement and base it their entire lives. Others like myself, will research it until I know what there is all to know before making a judgement call.

But yes, I am well aware what science claims. Have you ever paid much attention to those within science? Most of them are gay. It's why we have the "born this way," when "natural selection" on its own kills anything non specific. And not being either male or female is non specific. So that cracks me up even more to see how science does not even follow its own rules when it applies to personal view and choice!!



The article did not talk about amphibians..(which i am well aware of)....


"In the case of American bison, polecats or elephants, both males and females have been observed courting and mating with others the same sex. In the case of giraffes, 9 out of 10 couplings occur between males. Bonobos form matriarchal societies, where 60% of sexual relations occur between females. In lions, 8% of mating observed are among males, and in the case of dogs, numerous research studies affirm the existence of patterns of homosexual behaviour.

As for birds, all species that form parental relationships do so, to a greater or lesser extent, with members of the same sex. As many as a quarter of black swans are homosexual. Penguins have even struck up same-sex relationships in zoos in different parts of the world. Studies have shown that up to 85% of lesbian pairs are found in populations of western seagulls. And they’re not the only ones. Pigeons, vultures, ibis, lizards, sheep, macaques, hyenas, flies, dragonflies and countless other animal species are challenging the notion that homosexuality is “unnatural”.


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Thu 07/11/19 11:31 AM


Here's the thing..
*IF* God created us all...knew us in the womb (as pro-life people like to claim based on a verse that had to do with the future of Jeremiah)....then he *knew* we were gay.

Because no one chooses to be gay any more than one *chooses* to be straight.

And, if God knew we were that way from the beginning...how could he punish someone for that?




My brother and I have the same father, but different mothers. He is 2 years older than I am. My parents went to church, my Father like his Father was a minister, and not a single moment have I ever thought to myself, wow, that Dude looks hot!!

My brother's mothers however, was an avid drug user, and paid for her habit by prostituting. Sadly, she died of aids in here late 30's. But, when men would come over and they would get high and party, my brother said several times if his Mom was passed out. These men raped him. It messed with his mind. Today, he has a partner but admits it's definitely due to a mental issue from being abused.

I have read in several scenarios where a father raped his daughter, or the son was molested by an Uncle, they ended up staying with the "same sex." To me, that is clearly not "born that way."

I also had another case study where the parents decided eating meat was bad for us. They had young boys around 8 and 10 who played on my Pop Warner football teams. I told them, vegan is great for adults, but young boys are growing and developing and need proteins that only meat can provide. Long story short, those parents overloaded those boys with estrogen from just being a vegan. It literally feminized them. The parents are so ashamed of what they did and how their boys turned out, the Father killed himself over it.

So clearly, bad circumstances play a major role in how a child grows up and chooses who to love!!




So then...what about the countless number of people who grew up in "bad circumstances" who are straight?

I am not going to argue with you, nor do i agree with your ascertation that all people in science are mostly gay..
"Have you ever paid much attention to those within science? Most of them are gay."

People used to be afraid for slaves to educate themselves, or for women to be educated...
Because once they knew the truth...not what their master or father told them...then it would be harder to get them to "toe the line"/ keep thim under your control..
Perhaps if there *are* a goodly percentage of gay people in science/ acedemia...it is because they have learned things that others have not?

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Thu 07/11/19 10:15 AM

The Bible wants to point out that there's only one God... and anybody else's point of view is false... Why we keep arguing this amongst ourselves would just in typical Jehovah create someone Gay if they weren't made to love that other person they're seeking? I've heard a story where a woman began seeing a phycologist and in a past life rather recent she was a German Air Bomber in WW2... She was a he and he had 3 or so kids... to better the odds... he also was against the war but the man she is dating now shot down his plane and he died... so she gravitates away from this fellow because it's not the first time she was a man and this guy she is now dating has killed her in a past life... Many Lives Many Masters...

So what's the ultimate answer to your question of query to the relative subject? Not God... What does your soul consider "gay"? Is religion a mass fed media based to believe only in what the masses consider good graces or each and every one of us believing something different?





Here's the thing..
*IF* God created us all...knew us in the womb (as pro-life people like to claim based on a verse that had to do with the future of Jeremiah)....then he *knew* we were gay.

Because no one chooses to be gay any more than one *chooses* to be straight.

And, if God knew we were that way from the beginning...how could he punish someone for that?

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Thu 07/11/19 08:58 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Thu 07/11/19 08:59 AM

Religion in itself could be everything that represents evil, the enemy, someone's worst nightmare. Religion and God are two separate entities and realities. Religion typically is based upon a set of rules, codes, ethics, morals based upon human idealism. Religion is the condition of the one who created it.

So, based upon who created a specific religion, that religion could be homophobic if the creator is homophobic.

If we took out religion and just added God, we would understand why God created human beings. To procreate, to find a wife/husband and create a family unit. Two Lesbians cannot create a baby together, just like two homosexual males cannot create a baby together. Therefore, we know from understanding the plan of God that people are not born to find the same sex attractive. People are born to procreate.

But just because God designed us to procreate does not mean God is homophobic. The creation of a child between a husband and wife, was meant to build a bond between the man and woman. But naturally, two women together or two men together cannot create a child.

What has happened though, people who understand God and His plan, have taken it upon themselves to claim God is homophobic. That is not the case at all. God has designed a specific purpose, and only a man and woman (two people of opposite sex) can meet and fulfill this purpose. Anything else, is not what God purposed or planned.


Yes, but did you know there are gay/ homosexual animals?
I don't think *they* got that memo about sex is only for procreating/ God's purpose and plan....LOL


https://www.zooportraits.com/animal-homosexuality/

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Mon 07/08/19 08:21 AM


USA's team repeats as Women's World Cup Football champions.




Congrats to the winners drinks



drinker
Yay!

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Fri 07/05/19 10:01 AM

You will always meet women and some men that ignore you or think they are too good to be bothered with acknowledging your existence. This seems to have gotten much worse over time and may be just part of the current culture. It is who they are and you don't want to know them anyway. Just ignore them and treat them in the same manner. It is not worth our effort or stress to try and deal with them. There will always be a smaller subset of females who are open to acknowledging our existence and being friendly.


Watch out oldkid46...someone will say that THAT is all your fault...laugh

I am continually amazed by people I am friendly, polite, engaging, and jovial with who act an a**.

Oh well.....at least they deleted *themselves* from consideration.:thumbsup:

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Fri 07/05/19 08:04 AM



but no one is really addressing the abortion issue from the perspective of what the man wants, because presumably all that should matter is the woman, coming back to why its the womans responsibility to take the precautions if SHE doesnt want a child.


I see it as the man's responsibility to be sure his lady does not conceive a child except for those times when they both want a child. I think this thread is about the woman's responsibility for being careful when she says 'Yes' to her man. Does she want a child? Does she want to avoid a child?

The reason for all this discussion is, I think, because it is the woman who will have to go through all the pain associated with childbirth and more than likely it is the woman who will have responsibility for the child for the next 20 years or so following the birth. At any time, the father might walk out on the mother for a variety of reasons.

The man needs to take responsibility at the start. The woman also needs to take responsibility, but if a child results it is the woman for sure whose life will be utterly changed for many years to follow.


I likewise believe that adults should be responsible and take precautions about having children. But because most people dont discuss kids before they have sex with another person, it is up to each individual to be responsible for THEMSELF. if a woman doesnt want to deal with a pregnancy, she has to take that responsibility for herself. Likewise, a man that doesnt want children has to take that responsiblity on themself.

The solution to women having abortions is not to hold MEN Responsible for whether THEY get pregnant, as a previous post suggests, but to hold WOMEN Responsible for whether we get pregnant. Just like the answer to men not being made to pay child support is not to hold the woman responsible for not getting pregnant, but for men to be held responsible for not GETTING anyone present.

WE can only be sure of what we are doing with our own bodies, so we must take the precautions for what WE Want to happen with them.



But, msharmony...
What if a woman DOES take responsibilty..*is* on birth control pills (and has been for some 18 years)...and an unexpectedly preganacy occurs?

Don't think that is possible?
It is..I know for certain.

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Thu 07/04/19 08:51 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Thu 07/04/19 09:00 PM

I could care less about being "desirable" for some old decrepit fat man. Tell you what you do you I'll do me. Some of you people could stand to lose weight or color their hair a realistic looking color or even think about wearing a toupee instead of a trump combover but do you see me on here thinking I'm all that hella no.




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Thu 07/04/19 01:51 PM

Women like rich men in the same way you like beautiful women. Men cannot have it both ways. You stop picking women based on hotness, and we will stop picking men based on salary. Deal?


YES.

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Thu 07/04/19 10:50 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Thu 07/04/19 10:53 AM




"They think too much"


What the hell does THAT mean?

Wpould you ever ssay about a guy "he thinks too much"?

If not, then what makes you think that is an appropriate comment towards a woman?

See also:
There are sites for guys like this...they sell life size, very realistic "real dolls"...
Maybe he should check one of those sites out and order one...laugh

He's not saying it to 'a woman'. He is wondering about women, and why.
And you know, he is right.
Women are supposed to be in their heartspace, not their head. But because of how society is construed and where we are now, most have to be in their head in order to survive, make a living and fend for themselves.
Bummer is that it also tends to wear a woman out as it is not natural, but most don't even know until you teach them how to shift and they feel the difference. It's like coming home to yourself.
And yes, for a man it's different. They are left-hemisphere based, logical and so on. We are supposed to be right-hemisphere based. Life forces us to also be left hemisphere.
Of course in a relationship that doesn't work. You then got two 'heads' coming together while you need a heart to heart connection.
For men it's more difficult to get there as their natural state is to be more in the head. Some have become balanced enough to have their inner feminine back it up.
Others need a woman to help them out with it. If you know how to do this... works a treat. It connects, shifts the energy between man and woman.
That gets difficult when woman stays in her head too much, and most do.
The peculiar thing is that often when man and woman meet the man listen to his instinct and will sense when something is off. He may not know what, but he'll feel it and then he's off.
Woman on the other hand tends to get into her head and start thinking. "Does he live close enough so if we get involved..." "Is he really serious?" "What would my parents/friends think of him?" and so on.



"Women are supposed to be in their heartspace, not their head."

laugh
I literally snortlaughed at this.
Not to be disrespectful to you, but...
Then you say:
"But because of how society is construed and where we are now, most have to be in their head in order to survive, make a living and fend for themselves."

So, you are essentially saying women's role is merely to be housekeeper and baby breeder?

I have been tested when I worked at Vanderbilt University (all manner of research was available to us)..I am decidely left-brained. (like 68%)
I have always been practical, logical, no bulls**t, all that since I was a kid...
Never played with "baby" dolls (did have Barbies, but..they were cowgirls that rode the model horses I had).

So, I'm pretty sure I was left-brained from birth...not after "society is construed and where we are now"...

"teach them how to shift and they feel the difference. It's like coming home to yourself."

How about we teach MEN to be more understanding and loving and compassionate..why is it always the woman who has to do the changimng...why is it always *she* who is at fault?

"It's like coming home to yourself."
laugh
Now, the quickest way to make me feel tense and on edge and uncomfortable is for some guy to be all bossy and claim HE needs to be in charge.
It's a *partnership*..
You don't hitch a wagon with one horse in *front* of the other....
You hitch them side by side...so they are a team, and pulling ~equally~ together in the same direction.

I don't need a leader or a boss, or a daddy...I am a grown adult.
I need a equal partner.


Hmm... not even going to bother with this. If you are still at such a level of not knowing or understanding, and judgement, assumption and telling what I said even though I didn't... there's is no point.
To each their own after all.


Oh, I am quite evolved, well read, educated ("see...too much thinking...ruins the woman.."laugh

My late husband, as well as the guy before him *were* equal partners...neither one had an dominance issue/ needed to assert some imaginary right to be in charge/ control things (you could talk to *this* one to verify what i say..he lives in NC)


But, yeah....like tou say...to each their own..
*I* do not understand the women who are into the whole D/s thing..or have some deep-seated need to abdicate control over their life to someone...but..it's *their* life...not mine, and if that is what makes them happy/ fulfills them, I'm happy for them...no point in arguing about it.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And I CERTAINLY wouldn't make a cheap shot about it, like you did you me (insulting my intellect and self-awareness)

But I know what makes me happy and fulfills *me*, and I am not going to apologize for it.


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Thu 07/04/19 10:09 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Thu 07/04/19 10:10 AM


"They think too much"


What the hell does THAT mean?

Wpould you ever ssay about a guy "he thinks too much"?

If not, then what makes you think that is an appropriate comment towards a woman?

See also:
There are sites for guys like this...they sell life size, very realistic "real dolls"...
Maybe he should check one of those sites out and order one...laugh

He's not saying it to 'a woman'. He is wondering about women, and why.
And you know, he is right.
Women are supposed to be in their heartspace, not their head. But because of how society is construed and where we are now, most have to be in their head in order to survive, make a living and fend for themselves.
Bummer is that it also tends to wear a woman out as it is not natural, but most don't even know until you teach them how to shift and they feel the difference. It's like coming home to yourself.
And yes, for a man it's different. They are left-hemisphere based, logical and so on. We are supposed to be right-hemisphere based. Life forces us to also be left hemisphere.
Of course in a relationship that doesn't work. You then got two 'heads' coming together while you need a heart to heart connection.
For men it's more difficult to get there as their natural state is to be more in the head. Some have become balanced enough to have their inner feminine back it up.
Others need a woman to help them out with it. If you know how to do this... works a treat. It connects, shifts the energy between man and woman.
That gets difficult when woman stays in her head too much, and most do.
The peculiar thing is that often when man and woman meet the man listen to his instinct and will sense when something is off. He may not know what, but he'll feel it and then he's off.
Woman on the other hand tends to get into her head and start thinking. "Does he live close enough so if we get involved..." "Is he really serious?" "What would my parents/friends think of him?" and so on.



"Women are supposed to be in their heartspace, not their head."

laugh
I literally snortlaughed at this.
Not to be disrespectful to you, but...
Then you say:
"But because of how society is construed and where we are now, most have to be in their head in order to survive, make a living and fend for themselves."

So, you are essentially saying women's role is merely to be housekeeper and baby breeder?

I have been tested when I worked at Vanderbilt University (all manner of research was available to us)..I am decidely left-brained. (like 68%)
I have always been practical, logical, no bulls**t, all that since I was a kid...
Never played with "baby" dolls (did have Barbies, but..they were cowgirls that rode the model horses I had).

So, I'm pretty sure I was left-brained from birth...not after "society is construed and where we are now"...

"teach them how to shift and they feel the difference. It's like coming home to yourself."

How about we teach MEN to be more understanding and loving and compassionate..why is it always the woman who has to do the changimng...why is it always *she* who is at fault?

"It's like coming home to yourself."
laugh
Now, the quickest way to make me feel tense and on edge and uncomfortable is for some guy to be all bossy and claim HE needs to be in charge.
It's a *partnership*..
You don't hitch a wagon with one horse in *front* of the other....
You hitch them side by side...so they are a team, and pulling ~equally~ together in the same direction.

I don't need a leader or a boss, or a daddy...I am a grown adult.
I need a equal partner.

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Thu 07/04/19 09:53 AM


Sounds like you are falling into the trap of believing those parts of the Bible that suit your preferences. As I said in my earlier post, many quotes from the Bible can be matched with an exact opposite elsewhere. It is a folly to take any of the Bible as literal truth, it was clearly not meant to be taken that way.

When some JWs called at my parents' house many years ago they offered my Mother a lend of their Bible. When they came back a week later my Mother (a Catholic) told them that there were important chunks of her Bible that had been left out of theirs. No doubt they cut out the bits that didn't reinforce their own particular version of truth!

There might or might not be a higher power but it has no effect on me. I have no interest in that possibility but keep an open mind so that future scientific discoveries won't prove me wrong. There seems no point in try to adhere to a set of rules made up by human beings (all men) many, many years ago. Far better to make my own decisions about right and wrong. I've never had too much alcohol, never done drugs, never been a womaniser. These things have all passed me by as things that some other people do but are of no interest to me. I'm just a regular guy living my life according to what seems right to me. The JWs who visit me don't seem to understand that and, as I said earlier, they no longer visit me. Mormons have never visited me.





If you are directing your yhoughts towards me, I come from a lineage of evangelists, pastors, ministers who taught this stuff in Bible based universities plus preached it, lived it, ate, slept it, breathed it themselves.

And yes, there are points within the Canon that are just examples of how to live that did not take place.

But when it comes to who Yeshua was, being the fact that He is God, those verses we can take as fact.

The reason we can take as fact, is due to the scripture reference I used was directed to His Disciples, who later became the Apostles plus Paul in the Book of Acts. And when Yeshua dealt with His own Disciples, there was no gimmick going on, because Yesua needed His Disciples to understand just exactly who He really was.

I respect what your Grandfather was saying to you, but I believe had he been more specific, he would have said it in a manner I just have!!


Then, who was Jesus (Yeshua) talking to on the crosss when he said "my Father why have you forsaken me?"

Was he talking to Himself?

Also, If Jesus was God, why did He not know when He would return?"

“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

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Wed 07/03/19 07:07 PM
"They think too much"


What the hell does THAT mean?

Wpould you ever ssay about a guy "he thinks too much"?

If not, then what makes you think that is an appropriate comment towards a woman?

See also:
There are sites for guys like this...they sell life size, very realistic "real dolls"...
Maybe he should check one of those sites out and order one...laugh

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Wed 07/03/19 01:47 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Wed 07/03/19 01:48 PM

Yes, I know the Mormons are so keen on baptism that they try to baptise EVERYONE, including those who are dead. That's why they created their database of as many people as they can find. It is kind of them to make it available to people who are into geneology, although their reasons are very different.

If I had any experience of them, I would have written about it, but where I live it is rare to see them, although the JWs are everywhere. The JWs are usually a woman with a young child, or two women, never a man on his own or a couple of men. They walk along very slowly, as if daydreaming. In contrast the Mormons are young men, always very smartly dressed, looking rather like salesmen, which I suppose is what they all are!



The reason it is never a single man or two men..is because if they go to a house where there is a woman living alone...there's never the chance of someone accusing them of an impropriaty..

It happens (and most reported cases of woman being groped or raped by men in general are *true*...not made up)...I don't think anyone would accuse someone that way..but, better to remove all doubt of a possibility, than to leave an opening.

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Wed 07/03/19 10:06 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Wed 07/03/19 10:07 AM

My grandfather was an Anglican (Church of England) vicar. One day when he had been retired for many years we had a family gathering - his son (my Dad) and his two daughters with our families. Some JWs came to the door and said, "Do you know, it says in the Bible..." and here I am sad to say that my memory has let me down, so I can't remember the quote they gave.

My grandfather knew his Bible inside out, upside down and probably backwards as well. He replied, "Yes, true, but did you know that the Bible also says..." and he gave a quote the was the total opposite of the first quote. It became clear that they had been trained on the topic of the day and had no answer for him. After a time, they started again with another quote and immediately my dear grandfather replied with another total opposite! This really upset them and they thought about it for a while before coming up with another quote. Again, grandad immediately countered with another opposite. This went on for a time until the JWs gave up and went away.

Back indoors we gave him a big round of applause and he made the point that you should not treat the Bible as literally true because it is full of complete contrasts. It should be used by Christians only as a guide.

Once (many years ago) when they came to my house I invited them in, a woman with her small son. We separated them, my wife spoke with the boy and I spoke with his mother. We compared notes afterwards and the boy explained that everyone who is not a JW is a devil worshipper! You're either one of us or a devil worshipper. Very sad.

When the lady offered me a copy of the Watchtower, I gave her a copy of the local Christian news, a small magazine with contributions from the Anglican, Methodist, Catholic and United Reform Churches in this area. She refused to read it because she explained she is not allowed to read anything that has not been approved by her elders! She couldn't understand why it is better for me to make up my own mind about what I read. If she had looked she would have found my magazine to be full of such dreadful things as adverts for jumble sales!

I know they keep records and I'd love to know what they wrote down because they've never called here again. They stand outside the house, clearly looking at their cards and then walk on by to the next house.

Just a thought, with the current regulations about privacy, are they allowed to keep such records about people? Are they legally required to give us a copy of everything they know about us, just as social media, banks and others are required to do? Maybe I should ask one of them and see what they say.



I really, really wish people would rip on Moromns sometime..this JW stuff gets old.

Especially cpnsidering they ALSO go door to door, set up at events (there was a Mormon booth at a bluegrass thing I went to back in 2012), have their own verion of Christianity...and (and MKgentleman, based on what you said above ^, you think JW's keep records and that bothers you?)..they have actually gone in to geneology records and are somehow vicariously baptising people into Mormonism so they can go to thier celestial heaven..

https://www.pbs.org/mormons/etc/genealogy.html

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Tue 07/02/19 09:28 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Tue 07/02/19 09:33 AM



Ok true. I can see how it can be both ways. Although most women I'm around would love to settle down. Oh and yeah there are many expressions of love and getting to know someone. Ultimately I just don't see how being in a rush is one ohwell




Oh, believe me, "being in a rush" is very much an expression of desire, interest, and even seriousness. Again, not JUST sexually.

I've been searching for friends and a possible mate through this method for a long time now, and I've seen woman after woman and man after man, complain in forums like this, that too many people want to talk for a long time before agreeing to a face to face meet. The complainers tend to be looking at their own lifetimes ticking away, and want someone who is dedicated enough to having a serious relationship to take all the steps needed to build one.

By extension, the same thinking leads to eagerness to test sexual compatibility as soon as possible as well, for many people.

Naturally, as I have noticed from a very early age, for every logical and good idea someone has in the world, there are hundreds of people eager to use it as an excuse or a disguise, to simply greedily grab at whatever personal rewards they enjoy.

So make no mistake, I am an easy does it kind of person myself, but I understand why some others aren't inclined to take the time that I require.



I don't think I've ever had sex with anyone to find out if they are compatible with me. Sorry, but that sounds weird.
Sure you have to get at least partially nekkid to find out if his equipment is erm... impressive enough to give pleasure, but the rest you can tell quite well from the way they react when you kiss and cuddle and so on.




Just so you know, I'm not advocating anything, I'm just reporting the actual facts about what I've witnessed real people doing.

On the other hand, I don't think there's any way other than having sex with someone, to find out if HOW they enjoy sex is something you can live with.



Yes and that's where the problem lies cos usually you don't get to that point until there's feelings. Well, most women wouldn't anyway. And if it then doesn't match or doesn't work, then what? Break it off? Not so easy when you're emotionally involved.






Which is exactly the reasoning used by some who say they want to move things along quickly in the early stages.

I think that when people are very young, and make such claims, many really are just sniggering and using it as a manipulative ploy to have lots of carefree sex. But I think more of the older folks really do see the sense of it, as a way to avoid investing too much time, too much money, and too much hopeful emotion into someone who may turn out to be all talk and wishful thinking.



Maybe, but I've never heard that as a reason to have sex.
Getting to that is based on mutual desire.
To be honest, the thought of having sex just to find out if the man can deliver the goods... I couldn't even do that. Goes against the grain. It wouldn't arise me, if nothing else, it'd kill any desire.
Plus, I have no desire end up with a whole bunch of 'test sex rides'.
Maybe it's a thing men tend to do, dunno.





I am more concerned if we have commonalities..actually *like* each other...etc..
My first marriage was based on the looks/ nookie thing...I did no checking to see what it anythng we had in commom..
Years later, when we were getting divorced..he told me all those thing he'd acted like he liked and was interested in?
He wasn't...he'd just pretended.
I asked him why he married me then, as we didn't *have to* get married..
He said because I was cute and the sex was good..

Sorry...I need MORE than that...that isn;t enough for me long term.

Luckily, I had two great long terms after that, and am sadly now a widow.

I *would* like to know beforehand if the guy had any weird kink I just could not live with/ handle....like those that are into D/s...or are into the whole diaperbaby thing..or if he is too large for me to enjoy it...
I have had the unfortunate expereince of running across two LARGE (10+ inches and really thick) ones before, and I did NOT enjoy myself..
Don't tell me I need to try it again with lube and foreplay...do you think i am that stupid...?
We *did that...still was not enjoyable for me.
Average is just fine, thank you.




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Tue 07/02/19 09:16 AM
If one has NO intention of being in a relationship, doesn't want *any* kind of commitment/ attachement..totally a NSA thing..then paid sex is the best route to go..
No possiblilty of hurt feelings (because one person wasn't clear/ straigh up about what was going on) or anything.

You get what you need/ want.....without all the extraneous stuff you *don't* want.