Davo may be politically incorrect and abrasive in his delivery, however his point is just and I think thats the nerve he is touching. Good Job Davo touch the nerves.

Touching is ok before marriage right? lol

youre not making anything more pure.

and only a dumb and emasculated man would wait a year or more to have sex with someone only to marry her.

if anything youre ensuring that youre going to have crappy novice sex on your honeymoon.

the point here is that youre the one with the issues and not the men.

why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage? i have encountered several who feel that even though i was married once, that i can continue to have sex. i feel like god commanded me to remain pure until i enter a union in holy matrimony. therefore, i choose not to until i remarry if that is god's will.
anyone else have similar problems?

doesn't have to take years. i am not a fan of long engagements. personal conviction has nothing to do with being brainwashed. i made exceptions before and it brought about bad relationships.

why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage? i have encountered several who feel that even though i was married once, that i can continue to have sex. i feel like god commanded me to remain pure until i enter a union in holy matrimony. therefore, i choose not to until i remarry if that is god's will.
anyone else have similar problems?

why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage? i have encountered several who feel that even though i was married once, that i can continue to have sex. i feel like god commanded me to remain pure until i enter a union in holy matrimony. therefore, i choose not to until i remarry if that is god's will.
anyone else have similar problems?

yeah but my convictions make SENSE.{/b]

witholding sex for a year or more because "its god's will" and expecting a guy not to be unsatisfied or annoyed with it makes absolutely no sense.

enjoy being alone.

Sex is an integral part of being human.

Marriage isnt.

Humanity was not designed to be monogamous.

So, ditch the idea of marriage and just live with the guy.

Have sex with him and enjoy it.

Withholding sex for the sake of it, is not good for either of you.

But be selective.

"why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage?"

I almost feel like asking the opposite question.

Every woman I ever dated initiated conversations and indicated a desire to get into bed with me before I brought the matter up.

In fact, this is one of my complaints about women in general. They are far too anxious to be sexual. And when they are sexual they also seem to want to get right to the point rather quickly.

I know that it's a popular thing that women complain that men aren't into foreplay. But that most certainly has never been my experience. Every woman I've ever been with was much more axious about having sex than I was. And once in the sack they were much more anxious to 'get it on' than I was too.

Not that I wasn't interested in sex. It's just that I perfer to work up to things slowly (I thought that was the meaning of foreplay?).

It takes a LOT to turn me on. I also think that, for me, much of sex is cerebral so I perfer a lot of conversation building up to things, and even during physical contact.

So I'm at a total loss what the rest of the world is going.

Nothing people talk about ever seems to match up with my own personal experiences in this life.

As far as actual marriage is concerned though, I don't think it would be wise to actualy marry someone that you haven't yet been physically intimate with. What if you marry them and then discover that you can't stand being physically imtimate with them!

Then whacha gonna dew?

OMG! Your one of those yappers during sex? I hate being given instructions and such. Plus, you cannot get into the feeling when you have to respond. Too much thinking.

They were not anxious to have sex with you, they were anxious to get it over with.

why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage? i have encountered several who feel that even though i was married once, that i can continue to have sex. i feel like god commanded me to remain pure until i enter a union in holy matrimony. therefore, i choose not to until i remarry if that is god's will.
anyone else have similar problems?

I never said that the conversations had to be about giving instructions.

I guess some people prefer to have sex like rabbits whilst others prefer to have sex more like birds of paradise. And then there are the Klingons. Ah yes, Klingon love. Actually I think most of my girlfrinds were more like Klingons. They bit and scratched, and growled a lot. They were also very religious too, and often thought they were dying because they were always screaming, "Oh God! I'm coming!"

But they never actualy died. They always survived the ordeal.

If that were they case why bother initiating it in the first place?

I think they all had a secret desire to commit sucide but could never quite pull it off.