Topic: why can't men.....?
lilith401's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:09 AM


Quit using Gods will as an excuse to not feel sexy. This God you speak of has many other wills that I am sure you are not so passionate about.

Your clitoris is nothing more than nerve endings that feel good, why is sex so bad.

Dont look at guys like losers because they have the confidence to be a good animal true to their animal instincts.

If there is a God that is so small he will be upset at my sexual experience, I dont like him already!






i never said sex was bad nor use god as an excuse not to feel sexy. i am just saying that i am tired of being pushed away because of a personal conviction. if a man truely loves a woman, he will wait for her.


If I might offer a suggestion.... take it with whatever grain of salt you can... Kosher, Popcorn...:wink:

This person is not at all responding to your query. Interaction might, and will mostly likely prove..... FUTILE. JMO

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Wed 06/04/08 09:09 AM


Quit using Gods will as an excuse to not feel sexy. This God you speak of has many other wills that I am sure you are not so passionate about.

Your clitoris is nothing more than nerve endings that feel good, why is sex so bad.

Dont look at guys like losers because they have the confidence to be a good animal true to their animal instincts.

If there is a God that is so small he will be upset at my sexual experience, I dont like him already!






i never said sex was bad nor use god as an excuse not to feel sexy. i am just saying that i am tired of being pushed away because of a personal conviction. if a man truely loves a woman, he will wait for her.


It's wonderful that you feel so commited to remaining abstinate, but I do have a question. When you are married, will you have sex with your husband every time he wants? The Bible instructs wives to do just that. It also instructs husbands to have sex with their wife whenever she wants. I think that concerns a lot of guys, because sex is a lot more important to men than it is to women. In the hierarchy of male needs, sex is the single highest need of every man. So...once married, will you never deny your husband? If not, then how do you justify obeying one Biblical instruction and not another?

kriesybear's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:11 AM
I respect a womems choice to not have sex until marriage. I may not agree with it but i still respect her choice not to.

lilith401's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:15 AM
Ummmm.... I think the OP is talking about her personal beliefs and convictions and NOT the literal translation of the Bible. She just does not believe in sex outside of marriage.

Why do you have to turn that into a twisting of the Bible???

Why can't that be just what she feels is right?

dirtyblonde007's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:18 AM



Quit using Gods will as an excuse to not feel sexy. This God you speak of has many other wills that I am sure you are not so passionate about.

Your clitoris is nothing more than nerve endings that feel good, why is sex so bad.

Dont look at guys like losers because they have the confidence to be a good animal true to their animal instincts.

If there is a God that is so small he will be upset at my sexual experience, I dont like him already!






i never said sex was bad nor use god as an excuse not to feel sexy. i am just saying that i am tired of being pushed away because of a personal conviction. if a man truely loves a woman, he will wait for her.


It's wonderful that you feel so commited to remaining abstinate, but I do have a question. When you are married, will you have sex with your husband every time he wants? The Bible instructs wives to do just that. It also instructs husbands to have sex with their wife whenever she wants. I think that concerns a lot of guys, because sex is a lot more important to men than it is to women. In the hierarchy of male needs, sex is the single highest need of every man. So...once married, will you never deny your husband? If not, then how do you justify obeying one Biblical instruction and not another?


most definately i would never deny. the only time would be in severe sickness. the bible also instructs men to love their wives. if a woman is good the her man, her man would be loving and respectful back. jmo

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Wed 06/04/08 09:18 AM
There is plenty of fish in the sea and doesn't depend which way you look at it if I am not your cup of tea then good bye farewell. If I am then welcome to my world. I consider myself moral, educated, with integrity and discretion, I don't jump in the bed with any Tracy , Jenny or Fanny,I have lived some years totally celibete.

However I do not subscribe to the issues raised by the originator and that is due to my upbringing and ideology which is practiced in Europe. As a result our sex crimes do not reach to the pinnacles that they reach in this country

I was a small child when they made pornography legal in Denmark and every one threw up their arms in the air. Sex crimes in Denmark are ALMOST unheard of today

Prostitutes sit in the windows in Amsterdam
The only sex crimes reported are within ethnic minorities which do subscribe to similar points of view expressed by the originator of the thread who keep close knit to their kind so they dont really integrate

All theses anomalies brings me to the conclusion that as I said earlier there is plenty of fish in the sea and even then if you don't like it the world is your oyster or was it the lobsterlaugh


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Wed 06/04/08 09:18 AM
Edited by davo3 on Wed 06/04/08 09:20 AM
the bible also is against shellfish and killing your kids if you talk back to them.

the reason no one respects your archaic no-sex thing is because its annoying and makes a very natural act into something "sinful".

what exactly do you expect a guy to do? masturbate over you until you decide youre ready to marry him? oh wait! doesnt the bible say thats a sin too?

so youre expecting a man to be madly in love with you for years, all the while supressing his very natural urge to have sex with his girlfriend until the day you get married and for that to never get old or annoying or unsatisfying to him?

unless the guy is really really desperate or just as brainwashed as you, i dont see that happening.

time to come into the 21st century.

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Wed 06/04/08 09:24 AM

Ummmm.... I think the OP is talking about her personal beliefs and convictions and NOT the literal translation of the Bible. She just does not believe in sex outside of marriage.

Why do you have to turn that into a twisting of the Bible???

Why can't that be just what she feels is right?


Do you guys have talking points? Those are the old talking points, nobody has accused me of "twisting the Bible" in a long time. What I posted is the obvious and accepted meaning of those scriptures, if you have arguements to prove that they are not then present them.

dirtyblonde007 is a Christian, why shouldn't I assume she believes like a Christian? Any good arguments for that position?

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Wed 06/04/08 09:27 AM

most definately i would never deny. the only time would be in severe sickness. the bible also instructs men to love their wives. if a woman is good the her man, her man would be loving and respectful back. jmo


Then it comes down to trust. The guy has to trust that you are going to be accomodating to his needs and trust you to be true to your faith. If he doesn't trust you, then he's not the right guy. It looks like you have a perfect "litmus" test for potential husbands. Be patient and explain your position to the guy and if he pushes you then I would dump him. You might want to give him a second chance after you dump him as some guys are a little thick headed...you might want to give him a third chance if he is a lot thick headed like me...

dirtyblonde007's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:27 AM

the bible also is against shellfish and killing your kids if you talk back to them.

the reason no one respects your archaic no-sex thing is because its annoying and makes a very natural act into something "sinful".

what exactly do you expect a guy to do? masturbate over you until you decide youre ready to marry him? oh wait! doesnt the bible say thats a sin too?

so youre expecting a man to be madly in love with you for years, all the while supressing his very natural urge to have sex with his girlfriend until the day you get married and for that to never get old or annoying or unsatisfying to him?

unless the guy is really really desperate or just as brainwashed as you, i dont see that happening.

time to come into the 21st century.


doesn't have to take years. i am not a fan of long engagements. personal conviction has nothing to do with being brainwashed. i made exceptions before and it brought about bad relationships.

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Wed 06/04/08 09:37 AM
Edited by davo3 on Wed 06/04/08 09:40 AM


the bible also is against shellfish and killing your kids if you talk back to them.

the reason no one respects your archaic no-sex thing is because its annoying and makes a very natural act into something "sinful".

what exactly do you expect a guy to do? masturbate over you until you decide youre ready to marry him? oh wait! doesnt the bible say thats a sin too?

so youre expecting a man to be madly in love with you for years, all the while supressing his very natural urge to have sex with his girlfriend until the day you get married and for that to never get old or annoying or unsatisfying to him?

unless the guy is really really desperate or just as brainwashed as you, i dont see that happening.

time to come into the 21st century.


doesn't have to take years. i am not a fan of long engagements. personal conviction has nothing to do with being brainwashed. i made exceptions before and it brought about bad relationships.

personal conviction goes hand in hand with being brainwashed. i would dare say its the most important part of it.


doesnt have to take years? how long then? a year is still a damn long time to make a dude wait. less than a year doesnt seem like an adequate time to see if this is someone you want to marry.

you made exceptions before regarding what? you actually had sex with a guy? and youre blaming the bad relationships on that?

unless you made an issue out of the sex (which is very possible in your case) then dont you think maybe the relationship just went bad on its own? people have bad relationships all the time.

lilith401's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:40 AM

Do you guys have talking points? Those are the old talking points, nobody has accused me of "twisting the Bible" in a long time. What I posted is the obvious and accepted meaning of those scriptures, if you have arguements to prove that they are not then present them.

dirtyblonde007 is a Christian, why shouldn't I assume she believes like a Christian? Any good arguments for that position?


Hmmmm.... interesting reponse. You brought up the Bible, I asked why. You then bring in more assumptions. You cannot assume. Or rather, you can but it does not behoove you to do so. To bring up any sort of argument to what you said is ridiculous, as my post was saying what you asked the OP was not relevant to what she posted. You brought up the Bible, so then why should I continue in that vein when I think what you said was totally out of context?

That is ASNINE. And it brings to me to the point where I say I am done in this thread.

So very sad.

Good luck, OP. You're going to need it. flowerforyou

dirtyblonde007's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:40 AM



the bible also is against shellfish and killing your kids if you talk back to them.

the reason no one respects your archaic no-sex thing is because its annoying and makes a very natural act into something "sinful".

what exactly do you expect a guy to do? masturbate over you until you decide youre ready to marry him? oh wait! doesnt the bible say thats a sin too?

so youre expecting a man to be madly in love with you for years, all the while supressing his very natural urge to have sex with his girlfriend until the day you get married and for that to never get old or annoying or unsatisfying to him?

unless the guy is really really desperate or just as brainwashed as you, i dont see that happening.

time to come into the 21st century.


doesn't have to take years. i am not a fan of long engagements. personal conviction has nothing to do with being brainwashed. i made exceptions before and it brought about bad relationships.

personal conviction goes hand in hand with being brainwashed. i would dare say its the most important part of it.


you made exceptions before regarding what? you actually had sex with a guy? and youre blaming the bad relationships on that?

unless you made an issue out of the sex (which is very possible in your case) then dont you think maybe the relationship just went bad on its own? people have bad relationships all the time.


you have convictions, right? does that mean you are brainwashed? everybody has a sense of what is morally right and wrong. doesn't matter what religion or lack thereof. everyone is different. lets just agree to be tolorant of each persons convictions.

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Wed 06/04/08 09:41 AM
i respect your decision and your honor.

however, as many here have noted (mostly in Sex and Dating) that people are very sexual creatures and frequently need sex as an important part of their weekly or even daily life. we are all very social and dare i say most people men and women alike need to feel comfortable sexually with their partner as well as spiritually and emotionally before committing to a long term relationship.

i'm sure that there are going to be some others who share
your views on sex and marriage.

davo3's photo
Wed 06/04/08 09:45 AM
yeah but my convictions make SENSE.

witholding sex for a year or more because "its god's will" and expecting a guy not to be unsatisfied or annoyed with it makes absolutely no sense.

enjoy being alone.

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Wed 06/04/08 09:51 AM

yeah but my convictions make SENSE.

witholding sex for a year or more because "its god's will" and expecting a guy not to be unsatisfied or annoyed with it makes absolutely no sense.


Your convictions make SENSE, huh?

What good would it do the young lady to get an STD, pregnant or simply used for sex by some guy not interested in marriage? To someone who wants to be married...it makes perfect sense to wait until marriage. Only guys who are interested in marriage would wait for sex, which would eliminate undesirables from her dating pool.


enjoy being alone.


Enjoy life with a woman who knows you are only with her because she puts out.

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Wed 06/04/08 09:52 AM

i respect your decision and your honor.

however, as many here have noted (mostly in Sex and Dating) that people are very sexual creatures and frequently need sex as an important part of their weekly or even daily life. we are all very social and dare i say most people men and women alike need to feel comfortable sexually with their partner as well as spiritually and emotionally before committing to a long term relationship.

i'm sure that there are going to be some others who share
your views on sex and marriage.


its true we are sexual creatures. i myself have experienced that. i am just saying that having sex right away to me spells trouble. why get attatched to someone in that way and then the relationship failed because the attatchment was just that... sex. a relationship has a greater chance of survival if both partners share the same convictions. now that isn't to say that temptation won't arrise (it will) but knowing that each partner wants a lasting relationship based off of trust and loyalty will make it easier to avoid temptaion. this is why i put my venting under religion and not dating.

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Wed 06/04/08 10:05 AM
Flip the waitingfor sex coin over for a second, If you truly love him you will satisfy him.
Why is sex the measuring stick of love? What exactly is this "love" we as humans speak of?

So everything is perfect and the big day comes and you ended up marrying an uncircumcised, 2 inches, full of lint in the foreskin man. Or he married the foulest persistent fish smelling woman and none of these things were known until you signed a contract.

Sounds risky


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Wed 06/04/08 10:11 AM

why can't men respect a woman's choice to remain abstinent until marriage? i have encountered several who feel that even though i was married once, that i can continue to have sex. i feel like god commanded me to remain pure until i enter a union in holy matrimony. therefore, i choose not to until i remarry if that is god's will.
anyone else have similar problems?


there are guys that will be willing to do anything for the woman they love and abstaining from sex for them is like the foreplay before the marriage but of course not all guys think alike and some may have sinster of hidden motives for the things they do which means there may be a downside to finding such a guy that women need to pay attention to...he may choose to abstain from sex until marriage but maybe not for the reasons you think ..

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Wed 06/04/08 10:27 AM
I try to respect the married ones. After they get married I try to stay clear of them. As a matter of fact I stay clear of a lot of them. I respect that you want to stay pure and if abstinence makes you feel pure then go for it.:smile: