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Topic: Is Knowledge a Gift from Satan
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Wed 04/21/10 07:40 AM



Adam and Eve are a myth. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is a myth. Unless you are a fundamentalist Christian, there is no way around it. It isn't in my best interest to CLAIM that it is a myth, but I have explained and show why it is a myth.

In this forum, you are not debating in order to convince Christians that either their sacred stories are myths or to establish a "truth": you debate in order to prove your points to yourself and to those who think the same way as you do.

The whole argument about knowledge=evil is an old and rhetorical argument; I went into it in depth in my MA thesis.

It is my fault, though--on a dating site, I should not expect to find a "debate" (and I loosely call this a debate because in reality, it isn't much of a debate) wherein the debaters not only have a firm grasp on the information that they are presenting, but that they are able to see points that do not agree with their own.

Mea culpa.


ok...I have to admit that was a pretty cool meltdown ...so now that you released all your pent up frustration can we get back on topic



Go ahead--I am outta here.


wow ...this is the first time I ever cause a non-believer to leave

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Wed 04/21/10 07:42 AM

There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan

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Wed 04/21/10 09:36 AM


There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan


Love is only good. Love is a pure thing rarely seen these days. Love is the greatest gift anyone could give anyone. Nothing bad can come from love.

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Wed 04/21/10 11:57 AM




Adam and Eve are a myth. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is a myth. Unless you are a fundamentalist Christian, there is no way around it. It isn't in my best interest to CLAIM that it is a myth, but I have explained and show why it is a myth.

In this forum, you are not debating in order to convince Christians that either their sacred stories are myths or to establish a "truth": you debate in order to prove your points to yourself and to those who think the same way as you do.

The whole argument about knowledge=evil is an old and rhetorical argument; I went into it in depth in my MA thesis.

It is my fault, though--on a dating site, I should not expect to find a "debate" (and I loosely call this a debate because in reality, it isn't much of a debate) wherein the debaters not only have a firm grasp on the information that they are presenting, but that they are able to see points that do not agree with their own.

Mea culpa.


ok...I have to admit that was a pretty cool meltdown ...so now that you released all your pent up frustration can we get back on topic



Go ahead--I am outta here.


wow ...this is the first time I ever cause a non-believer to leave


My theory is "if you piss off most people most of the time, you're probably on the right track".
drinker

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Wed 04/21/10 11:59 AM



There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan


Love is only good. Love is a pure thing rarely seen these days. Love is the greatest gift anyone could give anyone. Nothing bad can come from love.


Really? So if someone loves, really loves, killing people, you classify that as good???

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Wed 04/21/10 12:23 PM



There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan


Love is only good. Love is a pure thing rarely seen these days. Love is the greatest gift anyone could give anyone. Nothing bad can come from love.


Love is just another term for Addiction or Pride ...there is no indication that love existed in the garden of eden or that Adam and Eve even knew what Love was or any indication of any type of addiction or pride until they ate from the fruit ...this is when love, addiction and pride entered as "desire" and therefore this knowledge was granted by Satan

all those that love or have pride in someone or themselves do so because of Satan

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Wed 04/21/10 03:01 PM




There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan


Love is only good. Love is a pure thing rarely seen these days. Love is the greatest gift anyone could give anyone. Nothing bad can come from love.


Love is just another term for Addiction or Pride ...there is no indication that love existed in the garden of eden or that Adam and Eve even knew what Love was or any indication of any type of addiction or pride until they ate from the fruit ...this is when love, addiction and pride entered as "desire" and therefore this knowledge was granted by Satan

all those that love or have pride in someone or themselves do so because of Satan


So it's Satan's fault that i love the lord, you, everyone in this room, and everyone in the world? Wow, never thought it was Satan that gave me that warm fuzzy feeling while laying next to a woman that i cared deeply for. Or that great feeling after helping a little kid and the smile that is now on his/her face. Thanks for opening my eyes funches.

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Wed 04/21/10 03:07 PM




There is nothing mankind knows that god did not allow him to know. Too much credit is given to that old snake. In the end he means nothing. Without love anyone is nothing. Satan is the most nothing of all since there is no love in him whatsoever. The only thing he loves is himself. Seek not that old snake. Attribute no excellence to him.

"Seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you."

Read proverbs if you want to know the value of knowledge.

"When knowledge increases so does sorrow."

Seek God's love.


isn't Love classified as being either good and/or evil ...so isn't Love part of the knowledge granted by Satan


Love is only good. Love is a pure thing rarely seen these days. Love is the greatest gift anyone could give anyone. Nothing bad can come from love.


Really? So if someone loves, really loves, killing people, you classify that as good???


Oh but that isn't love, that is a desire. Desires the adreniline rush from doing as such. That is quite the opisite of love. If this person which we speak of truely loved he/she would not be able to harm one hair on these people that have been killed. Again is not love, just lustful for the adreniline rush.

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Wed 04/21/10 05:10 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 04/21/10 05:10 PM

So it's Satan's fault that i love the lord, you, everyone in this room, and everyone in the world?


Cowboy...to claim to love someone you never met falls into the realm of being delusional...this is exactly why the term "Love" has no substance because people use it for any occassion ...you can love to hate ...you can love to kill ....love is use to justify an addiction ...so yes love is knowledge granted by Satan


Wow, never thought it was Satan that gave me that warm fuzzy feeling while laying next to a woman that i cared deeply for.


that fuzzy feeling is called "lust" and it's one of the seven deadly sins...so yes you get horny (no pun intended) because of Satan ...


Or that great feeling after helping a little kid and the smile that is now on his/her face. .


so everyime you help a little kid and you see them smile you feel that you love them? ...didn't you learn anything from the Catholic church sex scandal


Thanks for opening my eyes funches


no problem...my only aim is to place you heathens on the path to true righteousness

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Wed 04/21/10 05:13 PM
New thread name: Shirtless Dudes discuss God.

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Wed 04/21/10 05:16 PM

New thread name: Shirtless Dudes discuss God.


no one ever complains when Jesus goes shirtless

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Wed 04/21/10 05:20 PM
Jesus has a heavenly six pack. Holy abs!

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Wed 04/21/10 05:37 PM

Jesus has a heavenly six pack. Holy abs!


he was on the nailed to the cross diet

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Wed 04/21/10 05:40 PM
That's how he got all the ladies. Because he was so well hung.

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Wed 04/21/10 05:41 PM

the more technology advances the more Man becomes God ...is this why God was anti-knowledge and forbid Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree ...

did God create Man out of the need for vanity to have Man forever worship him as an all powerful being and this lead Satan to teach Adam and Eve that the power of God was only the sum of his knowledge ...

what Satan did then is why parents today insist that their children go to school ...not to learn good or evil but to get knowledge

Adam and Eve didn't go to school ...God gave them faith ...Satan gave them knowledge ....and that's why children and Adults now go to school or strive for higher education ...

so can it be said that all knowledge that exist outside the context of the bible can be attribute to Satan because Satan gave Man the desire to seek knowledge

before the fall from Eden all the knowledge the religious required was how to tilled the soil and give animals names..

after the fall from The Garden of Eden all the knowledge a religious person needed was placed in the bible

this is why when a religious person have the desire to gain knowledge beyond the bible it is due to Satan

Satan gave Man the desire to learn...to accumulate knowledge ..so can it be said that Satan do exactly what God created him to do....to be an Angel


To hear the religious you would think that knowledge is a product of the devil. At the very least it is a project for major denial.

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Wed 04/21/10 06:38 PM
I think Satans contribution is convincing people that they are 'all knowledgable',,,,not actually giving them the knowledge

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Thu 04/22/10 07:33 AM

That's how he got all the ladies. Because he was so well hung.


perhaps all the ladies were hung over from taste testing all that water Jesus was turning into wine

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Thu 04/22/10 07:47 AM

To hear the religious you would think that knowledge is a product of the devil. At the very least it is a project for major denial.


which brings up an interesting question...is knowledge even a product of God...if God had a first thought that would mean that knowledge pre-existed God in order to form that first thought

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Thu 04/22/10 07:49 AM

I think Satans contribution is convincing people that they are 'all knowledgable',,,,not actually giving them the knowledge


Satan's gave Man the desire to seek knowledge and become all knowledgable like God..

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Thu 04/22/10 12:21 PM


I think Satans contribution is convincing people that they are 'all knowledgable',,,,not actually giving them the knowledge


Satan's gave Man the desire to seek knowledge and become all knowledgable like God..



or he persuaded them to be knowledge gluttons, or to know it ALL

kind of like an italian parent giving a sip of wine at dinner, and a molestor giving them the whole bottle...

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