New international Version (1984)
You shall not murder

New Living tralation (2007)
You must not murder

English Standard Version
You shall not murder

English Revised Version
Thou shalt do no murder



I asked you which bible was you taught with ...but anyway the bibles you presented are not even older than America and a couple of them are not even older than you .....this is what I meant by Christians trying to change what's written in the bible because they don't like what's in it

but anyway let's go with your theory "thou shalt not murder" .......since the babies and their parent didn't commit suicide but was drown by Jesus in the Great Flood....then that would mean that Jesus murdered them

English Standard Version
You shall not murder

English Revised Version
Thou shalt do no murder



I asked you which bible was you taught with ...but anyway the bibles you presented are not even older than America and a couple of them are not even older than you .....this is what I meant by Christians trying to change what's written in the bible because they don't like what's in it

but anyway let's go with your theory "thou shalt not murder" .......since the babies and their parent didn't commit suicide but was drown by Jesus in the Great Flood....then that would mean that Jesus murdered them




You forget, we are God's creation therefore our father can do whatever he wishes with us. And on top of that, God nor Jesus "murders" anyone, he is merely bringing them home.

And I wasn't taught by any particular bible. I've been taught with all kinds, taught and read myself.

yes....that's obvious...I realize that in the post in which you claim that no babies drown in the great flood because they were all on Noah's Ark

I meant to ask you.. which bible did you read that in..or was that another thing that you taught yourself

since there are no physical bodies in Heaven...wouldn't that mean that Jesus have to either murder or kill you to bring your home?

no because our bodies are not "us". Is a mere vessel for our souls. Our body is the temple of God. That is why you hear people say stuff like they can see God inside of you and things like that.

And yes i realize that i had said that. And i apologize for such foolishness. Yes people including babies drowned..... BUT..... they did not "die". They again passed away on earth and went to heaven. There is an age of accountability. It's not an exact age, age accountability is when you have learned right from wrong and have the ability to make a conscious decision on that knowledge.

then that means that Jesus didn't "die" for your sins and Christianity is based on a Lie

No Jesus did not die for anyone's sin. Jesus sacrificed his life for us all and was crucified for our sins.

sorry but you said that no one dies ...which means that Jesus knew up front that he wouldn't and couldn't die and therefore sacrificed nothing

also if you claim that Jesus is God he would have known that he would live forever ...didn't you say that Jesus claimed to be the Alpha or the Omega ...

well it's also foolish for you to claim that no one dies....can you post the bible passage that states that no one dies

The only way to die is by rejecting the lord thy God.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

So on that note, the ones that do not believe in the only begotten son shall perish. Opposite action *not believing* brings forth the opposite reaction *perishing*

Jesus sacrificed alot. Jesus didn't HAVE to come to earth and be crucified if he would have refused, he willingly came. He went through the emotional pain of seeing us humiliate him, hit him, talk down on him, and much more. He went through the pain of having nails driven through his hands/forearms and being up on that cross for days having the sun beat on him and dieing from dehydration and starvation.

Those babies had it easy.
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Deuteronomy 1:39
Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
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Heaven is freely given to babies "little ones"

whether one has everlasting life for believing in Jesus will only be know on Judgement Day when the "DEAD" is resurrected ....and even Jesus do not know when that will take place only the father knows ...which sort of proves that Jesus is not God ....

your claim was that no one dies ....if no one dies then explain how the "Dead" is supposed to be resurrected on Judgement day if no one dies

again it was prophecy that Jesus was to come which mean he didn't come willingly he came because he had no choice ...to explain what I mean....when God told Joseph that Mary would have a child did Jesus have a choice not to be born?

Cowboy..are you sure you read Deuteronomy?...Deuteronomy wasn't referring to children entering Heaven, it was about the children entering the promise land ....

you will never find a passage that will state that those babies that Jesus drown in the great flood will get into Heaven ..he deem them tainted which is why he killed....oops I meant murdered them

this is what Christians that claim that Jesus is God has to accept ...that Jesus as The Word caused death and destruction and was responsible for all type of horror during the times of The Old Testament

That is because nobody goes to heaven. Heaven was not made for man. As you read in the bible you will notice earth is made as in heaven in the end of times. Earth will go through hell in the tribulations, then will be made like heaven.

Revelations 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Again, a prophecy is nothing more then something in the future foretold to happen. Doesn't mean it was forced to happen or anything, was planned to happen a long time before it did. So still doesn't rule out the fact that it was willingly.

Along the same lines of being born again.... there is also two deaths. Deaths of the physical body and death of the soul. Our physical bodies will die, there's no getting around that. And the only way for our souls to die is by not receiving the gift of heaven. Which we then just perish if we do not receive the gift of heaven and eternal life.

so in your posts when you claim that the babies in the great flood went to Heaven or that you need to accept Jesus to enter the kingdom of Heaven ... you were lying?