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Topic: Scientifific Bible evidence.
CowboyGH's photo
Sat 09/25/10 11:17 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 09/25/10 11:17 PM
1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).

4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."

12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued)


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Sat 09/25/10 11:34 PM
great post... the bible is a good book, no doubt about that, there is many things to learn in it...i like it when the scientific parts are brought out. there is another passage in the old testament about a golden vessel that makes electricity... i have to find the passage, i read about it a long time ago. some scientist made a working model of it and were surprised by the results..I'll look for the passage, and post it here if i can find it.

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Sun 09/26/10 02:45 AM
So how do you explain Animism which was probably the olds belief around, claiming thousands of years before your bible appeared what these so called quantum scientists clam now?

Hindus is another religion that had trinity way before Christians did.

Bible is not science it never has been. Judaism, Christians and Muslims stolen the idea from each other and from may other older beliefs.
waving

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 09/26/10 03:33 AM

So how do you explain Animism which was probably the olds belief around, claiming thousands of years before your bible appeared what these so called quantum scientists clam now?

Hindus is another religion that had trinity way before Christians did.

Bible is not science it never has been. Judaism, Christians and Muslims stolen the idea from each other and from may other older beliefs.
waving


Never said the bible was science. All i was doing was bringing people's attention to the knowledge the bible contains even before the secular world knew it. How would these people have known such knowledge if not given by our father? Where else would they have known things we're fairly recently learning now?
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"1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." "
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Again, how would people in that day and age have such knowledge without someone informing them of such?

carold's photo
Sun 09/26/10 04:54 AM
Really enjoyed thisflowerforyou keep it up Cowboy.
Like the Bible says there is nothing new under the Sun.
Maybe it is Written to all Hindu, Jews, Christian, Muslims, Buddhist for a reason Darkhour. Not stolen ideas JMO BTW

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Sun 09/26/10 05:56 AM
Great Post!:thumbsup:

MLG40's photo
Sun 09/26/10 06:04 AM
Edited by MLG40 on Sun 09/26/10 06:05 AM
Sorry to knock things down a few here. I was raised in a very religious home and what mainly bothered me was this: http://scriptures.lds.org/biblemaps/9
Not to say that there is anything wrong with how people feel about personal religions, society believes, culture or anything that. I believe to each their own as long as it doesn’t induce violence or killing one another over personal believes.

And for a "GOD" that is almighty and all seeing how could he not know that there was so much more land out there other than where this new religion was trying to get a foot hold in a society that only traveled the land shown on the Old Testament maps? And the fact is that there is NO other land talked about in this "Bible" other than where they traveled during this period of time.

“Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day."

http://www.giveshare.org/Health/medicinehistory/chapter4.html

Now the ancient Egyptians (hundreds of years before the bible was composed) were far more advanced in medical practice than "bible" medicine.

http://www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=72&z=1

Another proven fact on your "number 5 and 6"

And everything you have spoken about can be found in more ancient history writings long before the bible was wrote, by just doing searches on these topics you can see a lot of "bible" writings have been copied from other cultures and societies that prelude the bible by thousands of years.

And please people don’t take offense to what I have written; I just used these found facts with the OP’s postings. We have the right to believe in what we feel comfortable with…
But to say that I don’t believe in a “higher power” or something classified as god would be wrong.

carold's photo
Sun 09/26/10 07:41 AM
Well I think they talked about only there travels and experiences in the bible. The New Testament they were seeking and saving the lost and they didn't have the knowledge we have now. It was in the area of which they started in and grew within the life time of the Apostles. And then we have the history since. Plus allot of the ancient religion mixed with our religions of today. Some still out there like Zoroastrians.
I'm glad you believe in a higher power. I've always thought it sad when someone has no faith. Do you think there might be a reason the Bible is one of the top selling books. I know the Corane is catching up or does this higher power have a hand in it all? I think most scientist believe in a high power too.
No need to say sorry, Debate is interesting. Just don't like the slammers we get at timeflowerforyou

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 09/26/10 08:10 AM
If you put down hundreds of turd piles, blindfold a person and send them walking they will step on one or two...or more. The OP is only giving examples of coincidences...nothing more.


Pfffft.


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Sun 09/26/10 08:40 AM

If you put down hundreds of turd piles, blindfold a person and send them walking they will step on one or two...or more. The OP is only giving examples of coincidences...nothing more.


Pfffft.





What makes me laugh is those who are not blindfolded step in more piles than most. Wipe your feet before you enter please....

carold's photo
Sun 09/26/10 09:18 AM
laugh laugh laugh

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 09/26/10 09:31 AM
Without science's intervention the Earth would still be flat, the sun would be revolving around it, and the planet would still be 6 thousand years old.







carold's photo
Sun 09/26/10 09:36 AM
Nature pitchfork I just can't see that happeningwinking

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 09/26/10 09:58 AM

Nature pitchfork I just can't see that happeningwinking


That's another problem with religion...it's influence on education in America.



What a shame! We can do better then this...when we accept "good" over "excellence" then we are not doing enough...gee, looks like it's southern states mostly lagging behind here....and toss Texas into the unacceptable group lately in History of how our country was founded...egads!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html











carold's photo
Sun 09/26/10 10:01 AM
I'll be back later the Texans are planning the Cowboys and then I'm going to a birthday. oops


Oh no and she is having fun toobiggrin With my educated familypitchfork

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 09/26/10 12:34 PM

Sorry to knock things down a few here. I was raised in a very religious home and what mainly bothered me was this: http://scriptures.lds.org/biblemaps/9
Not to say that there is anything wrong with how people feel about personal religions, society believes, culture or anything that. I believe to each their own as long as it doesn’t induce violence or killing one another over personal believes.

And for a "GOD" that is almighty and all seeing how could he not know that there was so much more land out there other than where this new religion was trying to get a foot hold in a society that only traveled the land shown on the Old Testament maps? And the fact is that there is NO other land talked about in this "Bible" other than where they traveled during this period of time.

“Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day."

http://www.giveshare.org/Health/medicinehistory/chapter4.html

Now the ancient Egyptians (hundreds of years before the bible was composed) were far more advanced in medical practice than "bible" medicine.

http://www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=72&z=1

Another proven fact on your "number 5 and 6"

And everything you have spoken about can be found in more ancient history writings long before the bible was wrote, by just doing searches on these topics you can see a lot of "bible" writings have been copied from other cultures and societies that prelude the bible by thousands of years.

And please people don’t take offense to what I have written; I just used these found facts with the OP’s postings. We have the right to believe in what we feel comfortable with…
But to say that I don’t believe in a “higher power” or something classified as god would be wrong.



"And for a "GOD" that is almighty and all seeing how could he not know that there was so much more land out there other than where this new religion was trying to get a foot hold in a society that only traveled the land shown on the Old Testament maps? And the fact is that there is NO other land talked about in this "Bible" other than where they traveled during this period of time."
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Because the new testament is about the life of Jesus more or less and the teachings our father's great son gave to us. And since Jesus is the ONLY begotten child of our father, this only happened in that area. It only accured in that area because people didn't travel the world at that day and age. And come on, how could one man travel the entire world and teach EVERYONE of EVERYTHING. That is why it was written down, so that it may spread through out the world and EVERYONE would have the chance to learn of our father.
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And everything you have spoken about can be found in more ancient history writings long before the bible was wrote, by just doing searches on these topics you can see a lot of "bible" writings have been copied from other cultures and societies that prelude the bible by thousands of years.
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The bible is a collection of many different books. The bible itself wasn't written down as like a diary while all this happened. They are a collection of many different scrolls found after many years and gathered together in the bible.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 09/26/10 12:36 PM


Nature pitchfork I just can't see that happeningwinking


That's another problem with religion...it's influence on education in America.



What a shame! We can do better then this...when we accept "good" over "excellence" then we are not doing enough...gee, looks like it's southern states mostly lagging behind here....and toss Texas into the unacceptable group lately in History of how our country was founded...egads!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html













This shows absolutely no influence from religion. This only shows the knowledge in different areas of the USA......... How exactly did you mean to point this at religion as being the culprit?

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Sun 09/26/10 12:38 PM

Without science's intervention the Earth would still be flat, the sun would be revolving around it, and the planet would still be 6 thousand years old.









The bible told us the world was round long before columbus found that out. So how exactly is it because of science we know that the world is round?

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 09/26/10 03:44 PM



Nature pitchfork I just can't see that happeningwinking


That's another problem with religion...it's influence on education in America.



What a shame! We can do better then this...when we accept "good" over "excellence" then we are not doing enough...gee, looks like it's southern states mostly lagging behind here....and toss Texas into the unacceptable group lately in History of how our country was founded...egads!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html




This shows absolutely no influence from religion. This only shows the knowledge in different areas of the USA......... How exactly did you mean to point this at religion as being the culprit?



Ummm...let's think, let's see...who are most opposed to evolution being taught in schools? Might be the ignorant morons who believe in creation...that fairytale whopper of a story called Genesis maybe?, what do you think?

Yes knowledge is different in some parts of the country...the more religious an area is the more stupid people are. Like Mississippi for example: (they suffer the most from religion in this country)




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Sun 09/26/10 04:01 PM

Yes knowledge is different in some parts of the country...the more religious an area is the more stupid people are. Like Mississippi for example: (they suffer the most from religion in this country)


Then by your own words, you grew up in a highly religious state, and you continue to be led around by stupid morons, how can you face yourself???

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