'Illinois better hurry up and ban guns, murder is out of control in Chicago.

Haven't you heard?...The rumour mill has it that that was just a setup by your sweet president to ensure he gets to be the only gun crazy in the country.

By who the NRA who is afraid they aren't going to be able to sell enough guns and make their favorite investors more money? Or the gun crazies who are afraid he is really going to take their guns away?

President Obama is not and has never been hard enough on guns and he won't now either because he is a constitutional lawyer who trusts the founders knew what they were talking about even though he is wrong on this one. They could not foresee the future so their ideals are not right for the times.

No one can dispute the fact that if guns were really a deterrent the US would have the smallest crime rate in the world. No criminal here knows whether there is a gun or not when they commit their crimes.

So they obviously do it without knowing if there is a gun or not.

So guns are no deterrent to crime.

It appears those who fear guns the most are the ones who have them because they see the false power of having them?

I wonder how many other differences other countries, such as those in Europe have from the U.S... To assume that base on this one difference would be a fallacy as Mexico doesn't allow civilians to have guns yet they have a higher homicide rate, and Switzerland requires (or strongly encourages) military issued assault rifles be kept in the closet of every household (this is linked to military service). The Swiss have a much lower homicide rates than most countries.

Now that we are on the subject... In the U.S. Clinton banned assault rifles, yet, Columbine occurred smack dab in the middle of this ban. And furthermore gun violence, overall, continued to decline after the ban was lifted... This can't help but make you wonder... As with Washington D.C. who lifted its strict gun laws without a climb in gun violence. Another example would be Chicago, Illinois. They have the strictest gun laws in the country, yet the one of the highest crime rates. Given this information how can one conclude that restricting firearms would have any impact on the U.S. and its crime rates? In fact, gun laws seem to have virtually no impact on crime, which is unfortunate for both sides of the debate. (Although making them illegal does help cartels make a few extra bucks.) So why are we not pursuing mental healthcare as a better alternative method of preventing tragedies? This would do nothing but benefit everyone, would it not?

That being said... I understand your frustration with those who believe they are untouchable because they have a firearm. However, people do fear losing them as it does put them at a disadvantage to anyone still wielding the said firearm (which is anyone with the political pull to still own one or career criminal who purchases one on the black market). Power is so subjective in this argument as, in a way, it would give a 90 lb woman more "power" to defend herself against a 250 lb man under certain circumstances. Again, i point out, UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, as nothing is, or ever will be, fool proof. Which leads me to question... You say the government has no fear of guns because they have bigger and more powerful ones. But if guns don't make you more powerful then how did they achieve this status?

Registered guns are public record. Any criminal can get that list. In fact a news paper published the list on the Internet.

The crime rate today is actually less that it was five and ten years ago.




So I bet you have a huge stock pile of guns then, since you seem to fear them more than anyone.

If I owned a gun I wouldn't register it.

Me either.

Yep, let it be a surprise.

Oh what a relief your posts are.

Mental Health is a big issue and for some reason an impossible issue to get them to pay any attention to. I have fought for more mental health screenings and care since the 90s when I became aware of the massive lack in this country. So we are in perfect agreement there and maybe we can get the gun advocates to work for it too and then maybe it will get done. Gun ownership should have extensive mental health checks regularly, it would help with the murder suicides and stuff of that nature.

Ok, the issue with the weapon is that holstered with the safety on it is almost no protection unless someone announces they are about to attack you and gives you time to unholster it and unsafety it, right? In order for a gun to be the "protection" the NRA and gun fanatics claim it to be, it would have to be in your hand, with the safety off and finger on the trigger when the threat happens, like in your scenerio with the 90 pound women. I have had the joy of being attacked in domestic violence situations and in stranger situations, a gun would not have made it better for me as it was too fast and too close for the gun to have been effective. My mind and body prevented my death possibly on a few occasions. The gun would have been stolen from me and used probably to commit some terrible crime elsewhere if not on me. Which I am not afraid of death so to me the worst would be someone else being killed by my weapon which I was stupid enough to let get stolen.....

As to the power of the gun. The folly is the "gun balls", gun craziness..... There are gun owners out there and I hope they are the majority because I am not anti gun, I am anti gun crazy, who have the weapon for an extreme situation that they know will never happen and they pay that weapon no mind other than to keep it safe and make sure no one steals it or no kids get it. They realize it will not help them in the case of a house break in most likely because it is locked away safely for the kids sake. These gun owners take all non gun precautions to make sure they are safe and their families are safe. They live as if they don't even have a gun and don't need for anyone to know they have a gun except the proper authorities. I support these gun owners and that is why I am not anti gun. Because I believe these are the closest to sanity you get with a gun.

The government has gone beyond the firepower of a gun, wouldn't you say? Just their intelligence, surveillance, covert possibility, etc... alone make a mere gun useless against it, right? But in the scenario of "my gun is bigger than your gun", they win. So that makes them more powerful.

Smarter can out beat a gun every time. Even when faced with our government. Look at the successful attacks on us. It wasn't a gun that did it.

I thought you have been preaching that a gun does not make you more powerful.

Then I guess it is technology that is the most dangerous weapon and should be banned. Without it, the government would be crippled, and the citizens with their "pea shooters" would have the upper hand, and they would be our last defense against invaders. But if the citizens are disarmed, we have no defense and the government can't do too much because their computers are down.



The "successful attacks on us" were accomplished through a vast network of spies, liars and traitors. It was accomplished by the enemy within, and not the work of third world rebels with "box cutters" who can't even fly a Cessna.

People who actually believe that story need a reality check.

Since when does the NRA sell arms?

Are they having a big sale?

Where can we place orders?

Will they sell drones, machine guns, warships or maybe some nuclear subs?

Golly-gee. I never knew the NRA was a big distributor.

Learn something new every day.

Such valuable information.

Throw me a thug and I will;

I can see
When you stay low nothing happens
Does it feel right?

Late at night
Things I thought I put behind me
Haunt my mind

I just know there's no escape
Now once it sets it's eyes on you
But I won't run,
Have to stare it in the eye

[Chorus:]
Stand my ground, I won't give in
No more denying, I've got to face it
Won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
If I don't make it, someone else will
Stand my ground

It's all around
Getting stronger, coming closer
Into my world

I can feel
That it's time for me to face it
Can I take it?

Though this might just be the ending
Of the life I held so dear
But I won't run,
There's no turning back from here

[Chorus]

All I know for sure is I'm trying
I will always stand my ground

Stand my ground, I won't give in (I won't give in)
I won't deny (I won't deny)
no more denying, I've got to face it
won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
if I don't make it, someone else will

Stand my ground, I won't give in
no more denying, I've got to face it
won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
if I don't make it, someone else will
stand my ground

Was that the inspiration for one of my favourite inspirational Johnny Cash songs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IJw9jid5Yk

(that damn youtube server sure goes down a lot these days...If the link can't find the server, try again later)

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/

When the president surrounds himself with children while giving his announcement that reasonable gun control measures are necessary, bear in mind that those ‘assault rifles‘ the government is sure to be going after were not even used in the Newton, Connecticut elementary shooting. As NBC admits in the video above, four handguns were used to carry out that despicable atrocity. This directly contradicts other reports.

Pete Williams, who is NBC’s chief Justice correspondent, reported the following in the video posted above:

This continues to be a very complex investigation and there is a lot of contradictory information out there, but we have some new information this morning (one month ago) from a couple of federal officials and state officials.

They say now that there were actually four handguns inside the school, not just two as we were initially told. Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.

We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had an ‘assault-style’ AR-15 -style rifle that he had had taken to the school, it was in the car he drove there, his mother’s car, but we have been told by several officials that he had left that in the car.

The correspondent makes it clear over and over again that he confirmed this information with federal and state officials. Now, a lot of media reports contradict this one, but somebody’s lying. The report that an ‘AR-15-style’ assault rifle was in the trunk of murderer Adam Lanza’s car is up for dispute as well. If one examines footage from police breaking into Lanza’s car, one sees police clearing a round from a “long gun of some type” that does not appear to be ‘AR-15 style’ or ‘assault-style.’

Whether or not the mainstream media are intentionally spreading disinformation about the Sandy Hook elementary tragedy, there is one thing for certain: not only are violent crime rates at a modern low and going down, but only 323 homicides were committed by rifles in 2011. That includes hunting rifles, assault rifles, military style rifles, semi-automatic rifles and whatever label one comes up with, regardless of magazine or clip capacity.

In a nation of 311 million people, the odds of being killed by a rifle is about one homicide per million people, which is far less than the odds of being murdered by a blunt object. But we don’t hear the media arguing about regulating hammers and clubs. Again, when 99.7% of registered gun owners are law-abiding, gun control is not about guns, it’s about control.

The Liberty and Freedom Foundation
TEXAS PLANS TO ARREST ANY OBAMA OFFICIAL WHO TRIES TO ENFORE HIS 2ND AMENDMENT RESTRICTING EXECUTIVE ORDER - Texas is standing up to Barack Obama's attack on our freedom and the Constitution and is proposing to JAIL any federal officials Trying to Barack Obama's gun Restrictions in the State. The Texas legislature plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Liberals or imposed by An Obama order which would ban or restrict ownership of firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state. State Rep. Steve Toth says the measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state. "If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution," Toth said. WAY TO GO TEXAS!

Did you look at this?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/14/state-by-state-gun-report/1834361/ More states are working on the mental health side than guns.

Good news IMHO.