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Just watch. You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. The population is getting smarter than a gun crazy philosophy of old days. Plus, there are those who will not see the kids mowed down in class in under a minute. So hug em, love them guns, but they aren't going to save you this time or any other time....  
Yes you sure love world order and no guns. 
Yep, YOU are sooo right. 
You have been watching too much Dr. Who to believe you can outdo everyone with a gun especially if they are coming specifically after you. 
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I understand pacifism. I am not a pacifist however. I will woop *** if needed but don't need a gun to do it
Here you are... This is a pacifist when the situation is bad... 
While we need to be able to man up and have a chance at protecting yourselves you would choose to make us almost if not totally defenseless. You clearly equate all civilian gun ownership to everyone being "gun toting crazies." PLEASE... Ach Tung BABY! You really should consider moving to England then. The crown promised to protect people like you from violent criminals. You argue with nothing put pure unmitigated fallacies like Appeal to the masses, Straw man, Red Herring, manufactured facts, biased statistics, and I a m sure I could easily go on with stuff like Slippery Slope, Ad Hominum, Insinuation, false equation, False flagging... I am blowing hot air? I am pretty sure you also have a fascination with what is going on in the lives of the Royal Family as well? Protecting your grand children, from what, scary bad men with guns? What about the scary bad men with knives? How about that spoiled rich teenager who is spun out on drugs and alcohol driving daddy's high dollar SUV and he is having a bad day and he drives right into a bus stop full of people? Actually that really did happen but the kid was driving a Caddilac car! Now if the other guy has a range advantage with his weapons why do you want to tie my hands and GIVE the bad guys the advantage? You got your head screwed on wrong! There is no middle ground with you. It is ALL guns in your mind! And worst is you take the most ignorant approach to this topic! Tobacco kills more people than guns hands down. Why not go after that? Lately tobacco has not been a hot button topic! I hope to heck some of us are frustrating the daylight s out of you but then again I bet you think you are cooler than Jesus! The Job has been Taken. *I* am cooler than Jesus thank you very much! 
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You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. Sorry...Those "laws" won't be valid because they are not consistent with true (natural) law...You know...kinda like your banking "laws" that are nothing short of legalized fraud....Well fraud is still fraud, legal or not, and gun "laws" that deprive the reasonable individual of his freedom of choice to protect himself (and his family, and his neighbours, and his nation) with any weapon he so chooses and can afford to have, are also just so much "hot air" in terms of real law. The "laws" you want to see passed will only further de-legitimize an already illegitimate (de facto) "government" and speed its dissolution in favour of the RESTORATION of a "de jure" REPUBLIC governed by the rule of law. In this, you might think I'm just talking as a foreigner about the US, the Second Amendment, and US "citizens."...WRONG!...I'm talking about the entire world being a free republic, governed by the rule of law, wherein EVERY INDIVIDUAL EVERYWHERE has his natural rights (& duties to his fellow man)! We will eventually have a one world government, and it will be a "New World Order", but I think the people currently trying to promote their version of it (UN, US "government", Masonic Illuminati, reptiles, bankers etc.) are in for a very rude awakening! It is going to be a global free republic of people entirely under the rule of (natural) law, where a pyramidal (hierarchal) power structure with a "governing elite" at the "top" has no place whatsoever. The people of Earth are already beginning to flip the pyramid over 180° to put the public servants BELOW them where they belong. Get yourself some popcorn and get ready to watch the show...The theatre lights are dimming already and you won't want to miss a second of it. |
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Jeanniebean
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Mon 01/14/13 01:28 AM
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Just watch. You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. The population is getting smarter than a gun crazy philosophy of old days. Plus, there are those who will not see the kids mowed down in class in under a minute. So hug em, love them guns, but they aren't going to save you this time or any other time....
The only way the laws will be passed is by executive order or cheating,-- (like they did in the Presidential election) --by bribing or threatening congress, In which case, the laws are mote and illegal. The public is not in favor of gun control, or new legislation. It is just a few crazy people and paid lobbyist. Your so called "solution" will not solve the problem, if anything it will make it worse. Lots of people will die if the feds try to enforce an illegal law. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 01/14/13 01:33 AM
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You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. Sorry...Those "laws" won't be valid because they are not consistent with true (natural) law...You know...kinda like your banking "laws" that are nothing short of legalized fraud....Well fraud is still fraud, legal or not, and gun "laws" that deprive the reasonable individual of his freedom of choice to protect himself (and his family, and his neighbours, and his nation) with any weapon he so chooses and can afford to have, are also just so much "hot air" in terms of real law. The "laws" you want to see passed will only further de-legitimize an already illegitimate (de facto) "government" and speed its dissolution in favour of the RESTORATION of a "de jure" REPUBLIC governed by the rule of law. In this, you might think I'm just talking as a foreigner about the US, the Second Amendment, and US "citizens."...WRONG!...I'm talking about the entire world being a free republic, governed by the rule of law, wherein EVERY INDIVIDUAL EVERYWHERE has his natural rights (& duties to his fellow man)! We will eventually have a one world government, and it will be a "New World Order", but I think the people currently trying to promote their version of it (UN, US "government", Masonic Illuminati, reptiles, bankers etc.) are in for a very rude awakening! It is going to be a global free republic of people entirely under the rule of (natural) law, where a pyramidal (hierarchal) power structure with a "governing elite" at the "top" has no place whatsoever. The people of Earth are already beginning to flip the pyramid over 180° to put the public servants BELOW them where they belong. Get yourself some popcorn and get ready to watch the show...The theatre lights are dimming already and you won't want to miss a second of it. 
Good wins over evil.... always. Truth wins over lies. Freedom is paramount. We are human beings, not reptiles. The reptiles will be left behind. |
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I understand pacifism. I am not a pacifist however. I will woop *** if needed but don't need a gun to do it
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/wyoming-lawmakers-propose-bill-to-nullify-new-federal-gun-laws/article/2518133 Wyoming lawmakers propose bill to nullify new federal gun laws January 10, 2013 | 11:03 am Wyoming lawmakers have proposed a new bill that, if passed, would nullify any federal restrictions on guns, threatening to jail federal agents attempting to confiscate guns, ammunition magazines or ammunition. The bill – HB0104 – states that “any federal law which attempts to ban a semi-automatic firearm or to limit the size of a magazine of a firearm or other limitation on firearms in this state shall be unenforceable in Wyoming.” The bill is sponsored by eight Wyoming state representatives ad two state senators. If passed, the bill would declare any federal gun regulation created on or after January 1, 2013 to be unenforceable within the state. In addition, the bill states would charge federal officials attempting to enforce a federal gun law within the state with a felony – “subject to imprisonment for not more less than one (1) year and one (1) day or more than five (5) years, a fine of not more than two thousand dollars ($2,000.00) five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.” The bill also allows the Attorney General of Wyoming to defend a state citizen from any prosecution by the United States Government. One of the bill’s co-sponsors, Wyoming State Senator Larry Hicks, told The Washington Examiner that this type of legislation sends a message to the federal government in Washington D.C. “It says that your one size fits all solution doesn’t comport to what a vast majority of the state believes,” Hicks explained in an interview. Citing the Tenth and the Second Amendments, Hicks asserted that the legislation was Constitutional, adding that he fully expected it to pass in the Wyoming state legislature. Hicks said that his Wyoming constituents were upset about the looming threat of gun control coming from Washington, particularly since Vice President Biden signaled yesterday that President Obama was willing to issue an executive order to tackle the gun issue. “They are very, very upset that we’re going to see some level of federal takeover of our weapons and abuse of our rights given to us by the Second Amendment,” Hicks stated. “Also that the federal government will bypass our legislative officials and confiscate our weapons through executive order. This gives citizens of the Western United States a great deal of concern.” Rep. Kendell Kroeker, the lawmaker that spearheaded the bill, explained that he hoped that the federal government would recognize their constitutional rights based on the Tenth and Second Amendments. "I think that its necessary when the federal government violates our rights in the Constitution we have to act," he explained. The proposed legislation has recieved a overwhelmingly positive response from their constituents, according to the bill's sponsors, even from citizens of other states. Kroeker said that since he introduced the bill he has received up to 50 emails from constituents thanking him for standing up for their rights. “Most of the feedback that I have received is very encouraging," explained State Rep. Mark Baker, a fellow co-sponsor. "Many citizens from other states have contacted me stating that they are envious of our state’s initiative." Kroeker said that he currently owns several handguns, rifles, shotguns and an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle - the model targeted by gun control proponents. "People in Washington tend to overreact," Kroeker said. "They try to place blame on gun owners punishing in the innocent to pay for the crimes of the guilty." Hicks explained that the model of the bill was taken from a bill passed in the State of Montana in 2009 adding that it wasn’t much different from what he’d seen other states do. “I don’t think this is controversial in Wyoming at all,” he added. “I fully expect this bill to pass.” Or maybe FBI-Thugs like in Waco,Rubyridge and elsewhere. How many Kids "Legal" Government-Firearms kill in Mount Carmel? 
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I don't fear the government, I don't fear gun toters, I don't fear bad guys, I don't fear period. I will however fight for children not be shot in their classrooms 20 at a time in less than a minute. You don't even know what happened in that classroom, and banning guns will NOT prevent it from happening again. It you really believe that, you are really gullible. But I don't believe you actually believe that rhetoric. I don't believe anyone is that ignorant. Therefore you must be a paid shill for some gun control lobby. How much are they paying you to troll these threads anyway? So you continue to fear your guvment and the invisible people who want to take your guns from you cause the govment couldn't care less about a pea shooter, they can obliterate thousands of them in on fell swoop and no loss of military life. The real government will protect our right to bear arms. The enemy within the government (The traitors) will try to dismantle our constitutional rights in order to install a dictator. It is this enemy within, who wants to take our guns. (Traitors) The reason they want us to be convinced into turning in our guns or take our guns by force is because they do fear us! Don't let your handler convince you otherwise. The guvment is not coming for your guns, people are not coming for your guns but there are those like myself who will limit who can have them and what kinds they can have. It is all a compromise. There will be no compromise. You have no power. People can illegally pass so-called laws but anything that attacks the constitution and our rights ... is Traitorous.  
It gets hard to address the complete lack of logic sometimes.... 
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I still wonder what Politicians and the Supreme Court don't understand about the 2nd Amendment! Are they stoopid or what? 
The right of the people to keep and bear arms is an extension of the natural right to self-defense and a hallmark of personal sovereignty. It is specifically insulated from governmental interference by the Constitution and has historically been the linchpin of resistance to tyranny.(from another Forum)
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Oh and there will be compromise, you will see. The gun banning will not happen as that is a fearmongering ploy used to inspire people to go buy more guns as told by the NRA itself in a recent interview. But there will be new laws. Hickenlooper here is going to make so ALL gun sales have to have checks. I approve of that. It doesn't go far enough but baby steps baby steps and it'll be what it should be eventually. Those two must be Cousins! |
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Just watch. You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. The population is getting smarter than a gun crazy philosophy of old days. Plus, there are those who will not see the kids mowed down in class in under a minute. So hug em, love them guns, but they aren't going to save you this time or any other time....
They definitely will not apply to the Criminal! And you propose now to create at the stroke of a Pen,millions of Criminals out of Lawabiding Citizens! Yep,extremely nice! But nothing unusual from the extreme Left! http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318040_362489617182416_1956390371_n.jpg http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/156993_307539092680337_848552435_n.jpg |
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Conrad_73
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Mon 01/14/13 03:20 AM
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Anti-gun theme: "I'm so thankful for my freedom that I refuse to defend it." |
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Oh and there will be compromise, you will see. The gun banning will not happen as that is a fearmongering ploy used to inspire people to go buy more guns as told by the NRA itself in a recent interview. But there will be new laws. Hickenlooper here is going to make so ALL gun sales have to have checks. I approve of that. It doesn't go far enough but baby steps baby steps and it'll be what it should be eventually. The net effect after the AWB in the 90's was that more conservative seats went to pro gun pro 2nd amendment supporters. If you look at the demographics of gun ownership you will see they do favor conservatives, however the fence sitting democrats who favor social issues that most conservatives do not WILL vote to keep gun rights. 15 years after the AWB of the 90's gun laws are less strict than they have been, USSC ruling's have all been 2nd friendly since then. The net effect of irrational gun control is that 15 years later we have a better position, stronger support, and more moderates than we had before. |
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Anti-gun theme: "I'm so thankful for my freedom that I refuse to defend it." 
This sign says "HEY! THIS HOUSE IS SAFE TO STEAL FROM! AND ANY WOMEN YOU CAN RAPE REAL QUICKLY BEFORE THE POLICE HAVE A CHANCE AT PROTECTING THIS HOUSE OF LOSERS!" |
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Just watch. You will see that I am going to be favored on the laws that come up. And yea there are going to be some pissed off gun crazies but the laws will be done none the less. The population is getting smarter than a gun crazy philosophy of old days. Plus, there are those who will not see the kids mowed down in class in under a minute. So hug em, love them guns, but they aren't going to save you this time or any other time....
They definitely will not apply to the Criminal! And you propose now to create at the stroke of a Pen,millions of Criminals out of Lawabiding Citizens! Yep,extremely nice! But nothing unusual from the extreme Left! http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318040_362489617182416_1956390371_n.jpg http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/156993_307539092680337_848552435_n.jpg Ya know if I didn't know any better Willowdraga is a mouthpiece for the far left and not a "real" person per say!!! |
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The Liberty and Freedom Foundation
HOME BURGLARY TIED TO JOURNAL NEWS' GUN MAP REPORTED - It seems that Liberal extremism has consequences, unfortunately the victims are average Americans, who are suffering from these Obamaist extremists. On Jan 13, New York State senator Gregory Ball announced that a burglary had been reported which appears to be a direct result of the Journal News' gun-owner-name-dump. According to Sen. Ball's announcement, the burglar allegedly "used the Journal News' interactive gun map to target a home included on the map." Said Sen. Ball: "The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators." To remedy this, he is pushing three separate pieces of legislation which protect inherent privacy rights of all citizens and also keep personal information of gun owners from being disclosed. It is time average Americans stop suffering from Obamaists and their extremism! its OUTRAGEOUS THAT AVERAGE TRADITIONAL AMERICAN FAMILIES ARE NOW VICTIMS OF CRIMES BECAUSE OBAMAIST EXTREMISTS LIKE THE NEWS JOURNAL THOUGHT IT A GOOD IDEA TO LIST THE NAMES OF LEGAL GUN OWNERS IN ORDER TO TRY TO CRUSH THE 2ND AMENDMENT! |
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Edited by
willowdraga
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Mon 01/14/13 11:42 AM
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Again, the laws are going to favor me on this one.
And it will be just and fair. Well ok not really fair because it doesn't guarantee a peace loving person freedom from the legal gun crazies in this country but they will just have to suffer them. It doesn't stop a legal gun owner from gunning down his whole family because he is depressed. It doesn't stop a legal gun owner from shooting everyone at work because he is having problems on the job. It doesn't stop the kid next door from getting in the gun cabinet and shooting your kid in the eye with daddies gun. It doesn't stop much at all.... But maybe it might stop a taught by his mother gun crazy kid from mowing down the whole kindergarten class down the street. |
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wondered how long until this Piece of Refuse turned up!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/13/George-Soros-13-New-Gun-Laws-That-Are-Needed-Now Soros: 13 New Gun Laws Needed Now George Soros' Center for American Progress (CAP) has published a list of 13 new pieces of legislation they claim we need right now, in the wake of the crime at Sandy Hook Elementary. As you will see, these proposals--like others from liberals--would not have stopped the shooting from taking place: they would not even have hindered it. But they would make it harder for law abiding citizens to get the guns they need to defend their lives and families. For example, one of new laws that CAP wants is an end to private gun sales. This would include, of course, an end to those dreaded gun shows. Question: Did Adam Lanza buy his guns in a private sale? No. He took them illegally and used them illegally. Another proposal by CAP is for states to turn over more personal information on citizens to the federal gov. so that background checks work better. Question: Did Adam Lanza foil the background check system to get his weapons? No. As a matter of fact, reports indicate he purposely forewent the background check because he knew he wouldn't pass it. Many of the other proposals include things which you probably guessed Soros & Co. would suggest--"assault weapon" ban, "high capacity magazine" ban, start gun registry database, and "treat gun trafficking as a serious crime." Seriously--what does a gun registry have to with ending crime? And it's funny that we need to treat gun-trafficking "as a serious crime," when the highest ranking law enforcement official in our nation--AG Eric Holder--sat over a gun trafficking scheme that eventually meant 2,500 firearms were smuggled out of the U.S. and into Mexico. I do not remember Soros calling for Holder's prosecution over that. To be fair, Soros & Co. do make one point that's quasi-sensible. And that's that federal agencies need to communicate with one another more when one agency has pertinent information on a potential gun buyer (conservatives have said this same thing concerning terrorism and terrorists for years). They highlight this need by pointing out that Tuscon shooter Jared Loughner was denied entrance into the Army because of drug abuse problems in 2008. They believe this information, had it been shared with other agencies, would have prevented Loughner from passing a background check for the handgun he used in his crime against former Rep. Gabby Giffords. It must be noted, however, that even this quasi-sensible suggestion is a non-starter if it is a backdoor avenue to a new registry. Soros & Co. undoubtedly believe guns are the problem. Rational people, on the other hand, know that criminals are the problem. If we create registries, pass bans, and give the government a greater share in our daily lives than they already have, we will soon realize that we ourselves have infringed on the very right our Founders marked as sacrosanct--private gun ownership. http://gunappreciationday.com/articles/soros-demands-democrats-pass-13-new-gun-laws Soros demands Democrats pass 13 new gun laws Sunday, January 13, 2013 | Awr Hawkins | Breitbart George Soros' Center for American Progress (CAP) has published a list of 13 new pieces of legislation they claim we need right now, in the wake of the crime at Sandy Hook Elementary. As you will see, these proposals--like others from liberals--would not have stopped the shooting from taking place: they would not even have hindered it. But they would make it harder for law abiding citizens to get the guns they need to defend their lives and families. For example, one of new laws that CAP wants is an end to private gun sales. This would include, of course, an end to those dreaded gun shows. Question: Did Adam Lanza buy his guns in a private sale? No. He took them illegally and used them illegally. |
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The laws will be changed in my favor on this one.
The founding fathers lived in a different time. Guns were needed then and could over throw the government then. None of it applies now. Gun don't deter crime because if they did all crime would end. People commit crimes with no knowledge if there is a gun there or not. It doesn't stop em. Guns are a false sense of security. They fail their owners and sometimes kill their owners family and friends either by their owners hand or someone who get ahold of them. |
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