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Topic: Do you plan to register your guns?
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Mon 01/07/13 10:58 AM

What guns?:angel:


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ujGearhead's photo
Mon 01/07/13 11:05 AM
Register my guns? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl I'll get RIGHT on that as soon as I register all of my cars and bikes. They might not want to hold their breath......

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Mon 01/07/13 12:10 PM

Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/07/13 12:43 PM


Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.
eventually every Garage in the Nation will become a Gunsmith-Shop!

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Mon 01/07/13 12:45 PM



Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.
eventually every Garage in the Nation will become a Gunsmith-Shop!



drinker drinker :banana: :banana:

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Mon 01/07/13 04:04 PM
We all need our guns for the up coming zombie apocalypse.

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Mon 01/07/13 04:04 PM

Register my guns? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl I'll get RIGHT on that as soon as I register all of my cars and bikes. They might not want to hold their breath......


You don't register your cars?

Do you drive them on the street?


oldhippie1952's photo
Mon 01/07/13 04:11 PM

We had to here in Australia, most of us handed them in.

My brother kept his, he just got a licence and chains his guns in a cabinet and locks his bullets and bolts in a safe as they cannot be stored together.

My Dad didnt want to get a licence so handed his guns in and they paid him for them.

We do not have the right to carry guns, it's illegal, so are any type of gun , even a bb gun is not allowed.

You get used to it, laws change and after a while people accept change.

I grew up with guns, and never had a problem with owning one, but I dont have a problem with needing a licence to own one either as our government was trying to keep us safe.


Yeah but I just watched a piece on the news where armed robberies went up 69%, gun homicides 19%, home invasions 21% and something else dealing with weapon crime went up in Australia since turning in your guns. Politicians can't explain it, but you are "safer?"

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Mon 01/07/13 04:13 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 01/07/13 04:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2riOiBaZrg
War of words.

At least know what you are agreeing to if you want semi automatic rifles banned, or registered on NFA. First it wont work, second it would cost us insane $ to even try, look to Canada they gave up there rifle registry.

At least be honest, you want, no matter how dishonest the means, to restrict these weapons to the state.

No slippery slope needed, just understand the words/labels used.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 01/07/13 08:53 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Mon 01/07/13 09:05 PM



Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.
eventually every Garage in the Nation will become a Gunsmith-Shop!


The technology already exists to PRINT almost any gun made. I've seen guys print bicycles, and all manner of other things. This means that anyone with a computer, Cad program and appropriate printer can become a small lot gun manufacturer.

If there's anyone who can print me a tommygun (with a 100 round .45 drum magazine), please let me know...I've loved those things ever since I first saw them on "The Untouchables."

http://gadgetopia.com/post/7867

KInda funny in a way...The US doesn't care and never even asks Israel if it has nukes, but it really wants to know each and every American that has a gun...Hmmm...maybe Americans should do what Israel does and not say one way or the other...Let 'em find out "the hard way."

I'll never register anything with the government again...At least not until it is absolutely free, written in to the "registration that it is MY private property, to which I maintain absolute title, and AFTER the government first registers with me as my employee and pays MY registration fee to do so.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 01/07/13 10:12 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Mon 01/07/13 10:12 PM
It seems those of you in Montana will not be worrying about any "gun bans":

The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Article II, Section 12 of the Montana Constitution — these sections of these foundational documents are not government permission to keep firearms. They are statements whereby the people have reserved these rights to themselves specifically from government interference.


http://www.flatheadnewsgroup.com/hungryhorsenews/article_7f94c96e-5827-11e2-8f5d-0019bb2963f4.html

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 01/07/13 10:29 PM
Why would a criminal even think about wanting to register their let alone any free thinking citizen.

This gun control thing is going way overboard. When the goons go door to door what is to keep them from getting robbed of their accumulated stash? They would have to use Foreign soldiers! Most soldiers would tell their commanding officers to push off becasue they signed on to protect the constitution!

But her again is the biggest problem Americans have. We are not organized at all! We are so spun out on protecting #1 we forget we all are in this mess together. And when something does happen that requires a gun to save life who will these anti gun azzholes run too when the police are not around?


...the neighbor who they know has a gun pleading to save them!

Education in firearms would go along way to safety!

Likewise enforcement of the multitude of laws we have now.

Ending illegal immigration would be a big help.

And so would addressing pharmaceutical's roles in some of these killings as well as religious affiliations. Hate runs along all lines. So does drug induced psychotic behavior.

If people didn't have to feel scared of the own government let alone the possibility of goons invading their homes and harming them we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves would we? For every tragedy we are presented involving guns we are not shown the dozen or so stories where a gun stopped a criminal or animal attack.

America is overrun by sheeple!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/07/13 11:52 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 01/07/13 11:54 PM

Why would a criminal even think about wanting to register their let alone any free thinking citizen.

This gun control thing is going way overboard. When the goons go door to door what is to keep them from getting robbed of their accumulated stash? They would have to use Foreign soldiers! Most soldiers would tell their commanding officers to push off becasue they signed on to protect the constitution!

But her again is the biggest problem Americans have. We are not organized at all! We are so spun out on protecting #1 we forget we all are in this mess together. And when something does happen that requires a gun to save life who will these anti gun azzholes run too when the police are not around?


...the neighbor who they know has a gun pleading to save them!

Education in firearms would go along way to safety!

Likewise enforcement of the multitude of laws we have now.

Ending illegal immigration would be a big help.

And so would addressing pharmaceutical's roles in some of these killings as well as religious affiliations. Hate runs along all lines. So does drug induced psychotic behavior.

If people didn't have to feel scared of the own government let alone the possibility of goons invading their homes and harming them we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves would we? For every tragedy we are presented involving guns we are not shown the dozen or so stories where a gun stopped a criminal or animal attack.

America is overrun by sheeple!
they go all out,so they can get a good Chunk of their Agenda passed!
Making insane demands,then then relent on most,and slip the others in as "Reasonable"!
The old MO of the Extortionist,called bi-Partisan!

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Tue 01/08/13 01:29 AM


Why would a criminal even think about wanting to register their let alone any free thinking citizen.

This gun control thing is going way overboard. When the goons go door to door what is to keep them from getting robbed of their accumulated stash? They would have to use Foreign soldiers! Most soldiers would tell their commanding officers to push off becasue they signed on to protect the constitution!

But her again is the biggest problem Americans have. We are not organized at all! We are so spun out on protecting #1 we forget we all are in this mess together. And when something does happen that requires a gun to save life who will these anti gun azzholes run too when the police are not around?


...the neighbor who they know has a gun pleading to save them!

Education in firearms would go along way to safety!

Likewise enforcement of the multitude of laws we have now.

Ending illegal immigration would be a big help.

And so would addressing pharmaceutical's roles in some of these killings as well as religious affiliations. Hate runs along all lines. So does drug induced psychotic behavior.

If people didn't have to feel scared of the own government let alone the possibility of goons invading their homes and harming them we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves would we? For every tragedy we are presented involving guns we are not shown the dozen or so stories where a gun stopped a criminal or animal attack.

America is overrun by sheeple!
they go all out,so they can get a good Chunk of their Agenda passed!
Making insane demands,then then relent on most,and slip the others in as "Reasonable"!
The old MO of the Extortionist,called bi-Partisan!


US definition of "bi-partisan"... Both parties work for the same boss - the Fed.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/08/13 02:28 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 01/08/13 02:30 AM




Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.
eventually every Garage in the Nation will become a Gunsmith-Shop!


The technology already exists to PRINT almost any gun made. I've seen guys print bicycles, and all manner of other things. This means that anyone with a computer, Cad program and appropriate printer can become a small lot gun manufacturer.

If there's anyone who can print me a tommygun (with a 100 round .45 drum magazine), please let me know...I've loved those things ever since I first saw them on "The Untouchables."

http://gadgetopia.com/post/7867

KInda funny in a way...The US doesn't care and never even asks Israel if it has nukes, but it really wants to know each and every American that has a gun...Hmmm...maybe Americans should do what Israel does and not say one way or the other...Let 'em find out "the hard way."

I'll never register anything with the government again...At least not until it is absolutely free, written in to the "registration that it is MY private property, to which I maintain absolute title, and AFTER the government first registers with me as my employee and pays MY registration fee to do so.
OK,now you have printed out that cussed Thing!
Now what?laugh

Now you only need to translate it into Steel,Wood and Plastic!
Should be a Cinch!laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/08/13 02:45 AM
Those who push hardest for outlawing guns
are not the altruists among us
But it's they who'd create a big socialist state
If they had power now, they'd have hung us

Disarming the people converts them to sheeple
For they lose any means to resist
They'll just follow in line and obey every sign
When they're ordered to march of the cliff


(Posted by a Member of/at another Forum)

adj4u's photo
Tue 01/08/13 04:12 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 01/08/13 04:16 AM
Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

this is why the second amendment was added and is supposed to be inalienable

it has nothing to do with need for hunting unless you call going after corrupt govt officials hunting

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IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world

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****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACOUNTABL AND ENFORCE THE DECALRATION OF INDEPENDANCE

ENTER THE 2ND AMMENDMENT

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U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment

Second Amendment - Bearing Arms

Amendment Text | Annotations

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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DEFINITIONS

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Main Entry: in•fringe
Pronunciation: in-'frinj
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing
Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break
transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

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to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another

en•croach (n-krch)
intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

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peo•ple (ppl)
n. pl. people
1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people.
2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality.
3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life.
4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people.
5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson.
6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the.
7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people.
8. Family, relatives, or ancestors.
9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people

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SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS)

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS)

TO BEAR ARMS

WHO IS GOING TOENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

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AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men

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WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE

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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

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AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT

DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT

IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE

AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED

AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER

AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS

WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
people
www.thefreedictionary.com
Definition of people by TheFreeDictionary.com

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i came up with this along time ago when this site had another name

don't remember seeing it anywhere else nor hearing anyone using it

this really need to get out there to as many as possible

it is a shame the nra and those with money don't use this argument

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 01/08/13 09:56 AM



Why would a criminal even think about wanting to register their let alone any free thinking citizen.

This gun control thing is going way overboard. When the goons go door to door what is to keep them from getting robbed of their accumulated stash? They would have to use Foreign soldiers! Most soldiers would tell their commanding officers to push off becasue they signed on to protect the constitution!

But her again is the biggest problem Americans have. We are not organized at all! We are so spun out on protecting #1 we forget we all are in this mess together. And when something does happen that requires a gun to save life who will these anti gun azzholes run too when the police are not around?


...the neighbor who they know has a gun pleading to save them!

Education in firearms would go along way to safety!

Likewise enforcement of the multitude of laws we have now.

Ending illegal immigration would be a big help.

And so would addressing pharmaceutical's roles in some of these killings as well as religious affiliations. Hate runs along all lines. So does drug induced psychotic behavior.

If people didn't have to feel scared of the own government let alone the possibility of goons invading their homes and harming them we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves would we? For every tragedy we are presented involving guns we are not shown the dozen or so stories where a gun stopped a criminal or animal attack.

America is overrun by sheeple!
they go all out,so they can get a good Chunk of their Agenda passed!
Making insane demands,then then relent on most,and slip the others in as "Reasonable"!
The old MO of the Extortionist,called bi-Partisan!


US definition of "bi-partisan"... Both parties work for the same boss - the Fed.


Isn't Bi-Partisan the Giant who Shytes into his own mouth?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Tue 01/08/13 10:10 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Tue 01/08/13 10:13 AM




Why would a criminal even think about wanting to register their let alone any free thinking citizen.

This gun control thing is going way overboard. When the goons go door to door what is to keep them from getting robbed of their accumulated stash? They would have to use Foreign soldiers! Most soldiers would tell their commanding officers to push off becasue they signed on to protect the constitution!

But her again is the biggest problem Americans have. We are not organized at all! We are so spun out on protecting #1 we forget we all are in this mess together. And when something does happen that requires a gun to save life who will these anti gun azzholes run too when the police are not around?


...the neighbor who they know has a gun pleading to save them!

Education in firearms would go along way to safety!

Likewise enforcement of the multitude of laws we have now.

Ending illegal immigration would be a big help.

And so would addressing pharmaceutical's roles in some of these killings as well as religious affiliations. Hate runs along all lines. So does drug induced psychotic behavior.

If people didn't have to feel scared of the own government let alone the possibility of goons invading their homes and harming them we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves would we? For every tragedy we are presented involving guns we are not shown the dozen or so stories where a gun stopped a criminal or animal attack.

America is overrun by sheeple!
they go all out,so they can get a good Chunk of their Agenda passed!
Making insane demands,then then relent on most,and slip the others in as "Reasonable"!
The old MO of the Extortionist,called bi-Partisan!


US definition of "bi-partisan"... Both parties work for the same boss - the Fed.


Isn't Bi-Partisan the Giant who Shytes into his own mouth?


Actually, that's where he shytes FROM...Haven't you seen it spewing out? Where he shytes is INTO peoples' ears; of course by now most everyone's so full of it that its coming out of there too.

no photo
Tue 01/08/13 12:55 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 01/08/13 12:56 PM





Nobody is going to register their guns.

Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger".
Well, he does indeed make his money spreading fear . . . but when the politicians are saying EXACTLY that . . .

All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it.

Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years.

Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously.
eventually every Garage in the Nation will become a Gunsmith-Shop!


The technology already exists to PRINT almost any gun made. I've seen guys print bicycles, and all manner of other things. This means that anyone with a computer, Cad program and appropriate printer can become a small lot gun manufacturer.

If there's anyone who can print me a tommygun (with a 100 round .45 drum magazine), please let me know...I've loved those things ever since I first saw them on "The Untouchables."

http://gadgetopia.com/post/7867

KInda funny in a way...The US doesn't care and never even asks Israel if it has nukes, but it really wants to know each and every American that has a gun...Hmmm...maybe Americans should do what Israel does and not say one way or the other...Let 'em find out "the hard way."

I'll never register anything with the government again...At least not until it is absolutely free, written in to the "registration that it is MY private property, to which I maintain absolute title, and AFTER the government first registers with me as my employee and pays MY registration fee to do so.
OK,now you have printed out that cussed Thing!
Now what?laugh

Now you only need to translate it into Steel,Wood and Plastic!
Should be a Cinch!laugh
He is talking ab out this kind of printer.
http://www.robotshop.com/makerbot-replicator-2-3d-printer.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=jos

I agree tho, from what I can tell it only prints certain kinds of plastic.

You would still need some fab equipment to assemble the barrel, chamber, and other hardware, trigger assembly etc.

Any machine shop in the country could produce these parts.

Any time in history something has been banned, yet a market still existed for the item, entrepreneurs have risen to the occasion and started manufacturing illegal versions and selling them for big money.

You make a semi auto rifle as costly as manufacturing a real assault weapon and you create a market for even deadlier weapons with absolutely no way to track them.

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