Interesting that the news said that as I read an article that overall the shootings were down in Australia. I would be interested in finding this news article. In Canada since we brought in Legislation in 1991 the overall gun deaths have dropped; however the high gun crimes in Canada (mostly Toronto) are committed by gangs who obtained illegal guns from the States.

I can't wait to see what happens when they invent "Laser Guns" like in the Sci Fi movies.

Just think how many people a shooter could take out with one of those babies!

Perhaps, that should state;
Illegally obtained from the States.
Ya'lls border security sucks?

This is so true about our border guards. sigh You really hate Canadians don't you.

Even if overall shootings were down, it doesn't mean crime itself wouldn't be, it could very well have gone up in general, even without guns since there no longer would have been an immediate deterrent to trying to harm someone. If that's the case, then any attempt to keep people safer (which really wasn't the goal in the first place even if they said it was), would have failed miserably.

Oh and as an aside, this passive acceptance of change you allude to navy, is a lot of why governments are able to get away with what they do as far as how they are able to dictate what we can and cannot do as people. People don't stand up in big enough numbers to stop them, they just roll over and go along with it. Then they wonder how things got so bad. Well if they had stood up and said no to the bigger and bigger power grabs, maybe it wouldn't have.

Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so.

Hogwash....

The government doesn't care about your little pea shooters.

It is other Americans like myself who care about those weapons killing children and will be working to make it not happen again.

The government has no threat from the little guns ya' ll falsely use to protect yourselves from the invisible non existant govment boogieman

I don't hate anyone. I even have relatives up in Vancouver.
I was just pointing out the obvious.
Border security is lax and criminals will do what they have to to arm themselves.

So is that why they have been so quick to hoard guns for themselves?? Answer that why don't you. What purpose would they have to do that if they have no fear?

When all is said and done, those who think like you do will go down in history as the people who put the final nail in the coffin of what was once a great country, no matter how good intentioned.

Okay. I will go with that.

I'd have to see the numbers and where they are coming from to form a good opinion on that aspect to this. I wouldn't say the end justified the means though even if this was true.

Legal pea shooter.



Illegal pea shooter.



They both shoot 1/2" peas.

Both of the next rifles listed are, for now, legal. They are both .223 and semi-auto. Stoopid Libs want the one on the bottom banned. Both these shoot peas that are just over 1/4" in diameter.



My personal favorite is the mini-14 with peep sights. Sweet pea shooter.

Hey ya'll. Get 'em while they are still legal.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Rifles/BI.aspx

Paranoia much?

There is no proof of what you say....

Why would it even happen?

The great govment can blow you away with a drone strike and whatever stash you have will be of no use to you or the other paranoids you have huddled with you...

The government cares not about your little guns.

I do.

I care if you lose your mind and kill my grandchildren in their school with the guns you have at home.

So I will fight to make sure that doesn't happen.

And if you have to downsize your weapon, that the government couldn't care anything about, but I do, then so be it. You will have to live so you can't lose your mind and blow away 20 kids at the school down the street in one minute flat.

Psychosis:
People suffering from psychosis have impaired reality testing; that is, they are unable to distinguish personal subjective experience from the reality of the external world. They experience hallucinations and/or delusions that they believe are real, and may behave and communicate in an inappropriate and incoherent fashion.

Paranoia can lead to that yes but I am not diagnosing anyone. Not qualified yet....working on being able to soon though

Oh you mean like the ones the government most surely already has.

They had the capability years ago but only with extremely large lasers. As fast as technology moves I am sure they have one by now.

You are so deluded about this! There is a good reason to fear authority that has no accountability! The government DOES care about our little pea shooters becasue in the right hands they can still kill quite effectively. You are aware most assassins PREFER SMALL CALIBER HAND GUNS? Most real assassinations are right up close and so personal to insure the target and the target alone are killed. this whole sniper at a mile stuff is romanticized BULLSHYTE! Snipers with rifles is BATTLEFIELD stuff. JFK was sniped! Nut this gets so much better, how about raw knowledge? THANK YOU FOIA!!!

There was an assignation of a banker in Europe about four years ago if I got this right. The weapon was four sticks of dynamite, a copper plate, a handle bar bag. A cell phone, A blasting cap, AND A BICYCLE! Thats RIGHT! A BICYCLE WAS MADE INTO A BOMB! It was placed in the path of a banker and his three vehicle entourage. THREE ARMORED MERCEDES BENZs mind you. Armored vehicles made to withstand HITS from an RPG.



That was what was left of the car!

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/07/the-assassinati/

So in all honesty if you want to kill someone it is not impossible to do wit by other means. Hell, I could stab a person with a screwdriver and watch them bleed to death slowly from a wound that will not close! You would be stunned how many ways there are to kill a person with just things that lay around the house.

You see the thing is if Americans were more organized those pea shooters in numbers would spook the hell out of our own military but they are supposed to be on our side. CRIMINALS ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE NO SIDE BUT THEIR OWN!

We really need more gun safety eduction as well as looking deeper at what is setting these people off in the first place. Drugs both legal and illegal is one. But sadly more people spun on the legal prescription drugs are killing more people than some freak spun out on Meth or PCP. And we, well people like yourself chose to ignore this relevant fact. Likewise how about religiously motivated killings? You are aware the freak who killed two firefighters in New York as well as burning down several homes in the process was a Satanic? He may very well have been ordered to shed blood for Satan by his superiors. So now what? Guns are the problem?

And likewise I dare you to go on a little walk alone and Unarmed in Alaska. Even the people living in Anchorage walk around with rather large side arms. We are talking CAPITAL FIREPOWER when it comes to even the Pistols. And what justifies this? BEARS! LOOK IT UP! There are paces in Alaska and Canada YOU DO NOT GO UNARMED EVEN IF YOUR GUIDES ARE ARMED! A wound up horney Bull Moose can even go into a murderous rage. That High Capacity 9mm you are all scared about is for the most part WORTHLESS against both animals! Actually anything UNDER .357 Magnum up there is WORTHLESS! You may as well hand a bear a bottle of catchup and hope he gives you a head start when you start to run for your life. A gun is a tool. Nothing more. Besides, again why is it Cops can have high capacity weapons, CRIMINALS can have High Capacity Weapons, but the rest of us cannot? We are not responsible enough? Please... Besides, I can get a weapon from a person wielding one the wrong way. Just shoot him and now I have his gun.

What you likewise forget is that ALL WEAPONS ARE DOUBLE EDGED! A person who is untrained and too hesitant with a gun will get it taken from them and likewise shot with their own weapon! Sorry but to pacify a population by force you must strip them of weapons or they will eventually organize and take you on but then again a classic example where guns did not save a King and Queen. THE FRENCH REVOLUTION! Where was the military when the Castle was stormed by pissed off French peasants?

Again the problem is not the guns.

So you want to live in a state where we legislate based on POTENTIAL crime, not actual crime.....got it. Do you realize just how subjective that can be?? Not even just talking about guns here, but ANYTHING. Under that way of thinking, you could justify banning or regulating any and everything that could possibly be used for harm. Who's to stop them from taking something that has meaning for you? One day it's guns, the next it may be knives, or baseball bats, or whatever else you could think of that could be used to harm someone. Where do you stop, where is the line drawn?

You cannot legislate that way, it's not fair to make responsible people pay for what irresponsible may do. It's just not. If someone does bad, they and they alone should bear the responsibility, NOT everyone else.

Like I said, it is attitudes like yours that will sound the death knell for this country once and for all.

You really don't have a clue what you are asking for, you are being led like a lamb to its' slaughter. I hope you realize that before it's too late, because once it happens you won't be able to stop it.

The simple truth is...If you lose even ONE of your rights, you have lost them ALL.

Don't lose your second amendment right.