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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. |
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Nobody is going to register their guns. Alex Jones makes his living being a "Fear Monger". All weapon capable of accepting a removable ammunition feeding device that CAN with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would have to be registered with the ATF, under the NFA with all of the various red tape associated with it. Details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act So that means really almost every single gun made in the last 40 years. Do I think this bill will make it? No, why? Because we are taking it seriously. The technology already exists to PRINT almost any gun made. I've seen guys print bicycles, and all manner of other things. This means that anyone with a computer, Cad program and appropriate printer can become a small lot gun manufacturer. If there's anyone who can print me a tommygun (with a 100 round .45 drum magazine), please let me know...I've loved those things ever since I first saw them on "The Untouchables." http://gadgetopia.com/post/7867 KInda funny in a way...The US doesn't care and never even asks Israel if it has nukes, but it really wants to know each and every American that has a gun...Hmmm...maybe Americans should do what Israel does and not say one way or the other...Let 'em find out "the hard way." I'll never register anything with the government again...At least not until it is absolutely free, written in to the "registration that it is MY private property, to which I maintain absolute title, and AFTER the government first registers with me as my employee and pays MY registration fee to do so. http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57558213-76/the-undetectable-firearms-act-and-3d-printed-guns-faq/ |
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actually it is preposterous,when you consider the Information on Firearms-Making on the Internet and in private possession! Guess they will somehow purge all of that out of People's Brains,or "Register" it. If you don't license it and register it with Government,it will be UNLAWFUL Knowledge,therefore against the Law,and subject to Confiscation! 
There are also very detailed instructions on how to build a working Atom, Nuclear and even a Neutron bomb and all the needed materials. Does one run out to the nearest Federal ATF office proclaiming "I got one! I made one! I made me a Nu-clear Bomb, guys! Can I now register it?" Well of course one does...when and if the citizens are allowed to equally have all the weapons that the police, National Guards and military forces have; just to keep them all honest, 'ya know'...Hey, one never knows when they may suddenly be given new marching orders that turn them against you due to any 'civil unrest'... Any Federal Firearm license is not really a problem for most people; just a bit expensive including the taxes when purchasing, say a fully automatic weapon of any sort. Federal Govt. auctions are fun; one can purchase boxes of hand grenades for as little as one dollar each. (Have an export license, just in case). Last one I attended, they cast around 25 cents each; MP 40's around 30 dollars each. Get on their mailing lists and they tell you when, what and where the next auction is; anything/ everything from tubas, to jeeps to tanks to naval attack craft...build your own naval force! Or export to Mali or somewhere...make a profit! Be a legal gun-runner! Get discount deals from the military and the various 'intelligence' agencies...more fun than paying for a minister's license and declaring yourself a new religion and being tax exempt... 
Think that is too farfetched? Look at some Legislation during the last few hundred years!
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It's a pretty good bet this will fly over most lib heads.
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It's a pretty good bet this will fly over most lib heads.
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It's a pretty good bet this will fly over most lib heads.
Except it is an inaccurate cartoon as usual. There needs to be about 20 dead kids and an automatic pea shooter to show the accuracy of the statement. |
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They are preparing to confiscate our guns. First, they want you to register them. Are the globalist planing to start a civil war? That is what Alex Jones is saying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lI3nAPMCo Hogwash.... 
The government doesn't care about your little pea shooters. It is other Americans like myself who care about those weapons killing children and will be working to make it not happen again. The government has no threat from the little guns ya' ll falsely use to protect yourselves from the invisible non existant govment boogieman I do have to point out, that we still have troops that were unable to secure afganistan or iraq. Fighting a full scale war, dead on, army to army, the U.S. army would wipe out any opposition without breaking a sweat. However there are two dynamics that we are not looking at here. #1. Many troops would literally turn their weapons on their own officers before carrying out an order to slaughter other americans, as they have taken the oath to defend the constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. This precedes the promise to obey orders from the officers appointed to him/her including the president of the United States. #2 When a population is armed, you cannot decipher between friend and foe, making large scale attacks nearly impossible. This results in constant skirmishes, and on american soil, who knows how it would all end up. I been a personal witness to both sides of this issue. I have used this devastating technology of which you speak in live combat (front lines). I will say this, we have yet to lose a battle (i believe since wwII), yet we have lost wars. There is a lot more to fighting than who has the bigger stick. Again, we are not seeing all the moving parts. Furthermore, if people care so much about preventing these tragedies, why are they not pursuing avenues that have been proven to be much more effective? Why are they not looking at the problem itself? Again, with all of the above into consideration. The government has no fear of the citizens even with automatic weapons. They can obliterate any problem with one drone and you can bet they can convince enough military that there is a domestic threat to get it done So the lies that are used to make people believe they are more powerful with a pea shooter is not accurate nor healthy for them. And 20 dead kids in a school in under a minute is a big problem. |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Wed 01/09/13 03:09 PM
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They are preparing to confiscate our guns. First, they want you to register them. Are the globalist planing to start a civil war? That is what Alex Jones is saying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lI3nAPMCo Hogwash....
The government doesn't care about your little pea shooters. It is other Americans like myself who care about those weapons killing children and will be working to make it not happen again. The government has no threat from the little guns ya' ll falsely use to protect yourselves from the invisible non existant govment boogieman I do have to point out, that we still have troops that were unable to secure afganistan or iraq. Fighting a full scale war, dead on, army to army, the U.S. army would wipe out any opposition without breaking a sweat. However there are two dynamics that we are not looking at here. #1. Many troops would literally turn their weapons on their own officers before carrying out an order to slaughter other americans, as they have taken the oath to defend the constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. This precedes the promise to obey orders from the officers appointed to him/her including the president of the United States. #2 When a population is armed, you cannot decipher between friend and foe, making large scale attacks nearly impossible. This results in constant skirmishes, and on american soil, who knows how it would all end up. I been a personal witness to both sides of this issue. I have used this devastating technology of which you speak in live combat (front lines). I will say this, we have yet to lose a battle (i believe since wwII), yet we have lost wars. There is a lot more to fighting than who has the bigger stick. Again, we are not seeing all the moving parts. Furthermore, if people care so much about preventing these tragedies, why are they not pursuing avenues that have been proven to be much more effective? Why are they not looking at the problem itself? Again, with all of the above into consideration. The government has no fear of the citizens even with automatic weapons. They can obliterate any problem with one drone and you can bet they can convince enough military that there is a domestic threat to get it done So the lies that are used to make people believe they are more powerful with a pea shooter is not accurate nor healthy for them. And 20 dead kids in a school in under a minute is a big problem. Again, i have personally witnessed what drones can do. I have called them in on an occasion or two. It would be very difficult not kill any of your "gun toters" without first identifying them. (Remember what you said about not letting your enemy see you coming?) Even if they did identify them, its difficult in public settings to kill them without killing bunches anti-gun advocates with whom they are blending (if they are doing it right) would be few are far between. Also, many of the opponents for the U.S. government under this very extreme circumstance will be our own military using the same technology. Just saying... |
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It's a pretty good bet this will fly over most lib heads.
Except it is an inaccurate cartoon as usual. There needs to be about 20 dead kids and an automatic pea shooter to show the accuracy of the statement. Correct me if I'm wrong. The shooter/shooters you speak of did not use auto-fire weapons. |
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
Here in the states, all pistols have to be registered already. Rifles and shotguns don't. I haven't found any full-auto that I would trust to have any sort of accuracy. Takes lots of practice to get the thing to stay in the line of fire intended. Even three round bursts are hard to keep on target. Got drift. |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Wed 01/09/13 03:21 PM
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
Here in the states, all pistols have to be registered already. Rifles and shotguns don't. I haven't found any full-auto that I would trust to have any sort of accuracy. Takes lots of practice to get the thing to stay in the line of fire intended. Even three round bursts are hard to keep on target. Got drift. Actually Willing, Maine does not require any sort of gun registration (even ones you carry). They conduct background checks for any firearm, but no registration to my knowledge. 
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Edited by
willing2
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Wed 01/09/13 03:20 PM
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
Here in the states, all pistols have to be registered already. Rifles and shotguns don't. I haven't found any full-auto that I would trust to have any sort of accuracy. Takes lots of practice to get the thing to stay in the line of fire intended. Even three round bursts are hard to keep on target. Got drift. Actually Willing, Maine does not require any sort of gun registration (even ones you carry). They conduct background checks for any firearm, but no registration to my knowledge.
That settles it. I'm moving to Maine! NOT!! Too freakin' cold and they all talk funny.
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
Here in the states, all pistols have to be registered already. Rifles and shotguns don't. I haven't found any full-auto that I would trust to have any sort of accuracy. Takes lots of practice to get the thing to stay in the line of fire intended. Even three round bursts are hard to keep on target. Got drift. Actually Willing, Maine does not require any sort of gun registration (even ones you carry). They conduct background checks for any firearm, but no registration to my knowledge.
That settles it. I'm moving to Maine! NOT!! Too freakin' cold and they all talk funny.
You wouldn't be cold, you'd be "wicked cold"! FYI Maine is also home to more than 23,000 class 3 weapons... |
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Good point about the crime not necessarily being down. I can only speak for our country that crime overall is down which isn't necessarily related to gun control but the shootings are also down here as well. I don't know if that is a direct result of gun registration but our politicians seem to think so. If you graph the violent crime of the big 10 developed nations they may be at different places on the graph but it is awfully interesting how the lines all follow the same broad trend of decline. All the while some places increase gun control, and other decrease. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge regarding statistics, or study methodologies should recognize a lack of correlation. That means the idea is spurious, and that other factors are involved. Yet here we are continuing to beat up on guns, and not the real causal factors. We also tend to dramatize our violence in society . . . even while it is going down, we ratchet up the fear to push new policies through. Well; if you read my post; I said I wasn't sure if it had to to with gun registration.
Here in the states, all pistols have to be registered already. Rifles and shotguns don't. I haven't found any full-auto that I would trust to have any sort of accuracy. Takes lots of practice to get the thing to stay in the line of fire intended. Even three round bursts are hard to keep on target. Got drift. Actually Willing, Maine does not require any sort of gun registration (even ones you carry). They conduct background checks for any firearm, but no registration to my knowledge.
That settles it. I'm moving to Maine! NOT!! Too freakin' cold and they all talk funny.
You wouldn't be cold, you'd be "wicked cold"! FYI Maine is also home to more than 23,000 class 3 weapons... I can understand why. They damn fingers is all frozen to the triggers and they can't let 'em go. I'm cool right where I'm at. Got the wood heater on low and the front door open to cool down the house. Be safe up yonder. |
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Aye, and you do the same good sir
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It's a pretty good bet this will fly over most lib heads.
Except it is an inaccurate cartoon as usual. There needs to be about 20 dead kids and an automatic pea shooter to show the accuracy of the statement. You are... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers Note in this list the weapons used. Cars are mentioned. Melee weapons are mentions. They even show the statistics in other countries. And then there is the section pertaining just to vehicular manslaughter. Please note the number of deaths! Now in Alaska please tell people they don't need to carry "pea shooters." Better yet take a trip to Alaska, and go for a walk in the outskirts of any city there unarmed. I DARE YOU... 
That is what a 1000 pound grizzly bear looks like. Note that this specimen has nine inch paws, claws almost four inches long and took five men to drag it to a trailer to be hauled off. This was shot in a man's DRIVEWAY AT HIS OWN HOUSE IN SOLDOTNA ALASKA! Here is the whole story... http://teejaw.com/2010/08/30/bear-attack-in-alaska/ And just for your information a .454 Casull is no pop gun or pea shooter. A "wing shot" results in severing limbs. A heat or chest shot is beyond messy. A head shot makes identification almost impossible. But you need this kind of firepower to stop big bears! And this guy panic fired at a bear that was in motion less than 20 feet away from him. So please stop being so selectively ignorant! Blame a tool for the actions of people... Counter productive comes to mind! |
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so ummmmmm who is going to make the bad guys register their guns?
Hey drivin 
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Edited by
adj4u
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since no one (other than drivenmenutz) seems to have read the post on why the second amendment was put into the bill of rights maybe you should read the early history of hitlers germany step one you must register your guns then a time thereafter he sends the ss to confiscate said registered guns an unarmed population is defenseless against an oppressive govt if a govt has no plans on becoming oppressive they need not register guns.....those committing felonies do not register their guns |
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