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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. lol, i hear ya... but we know the bible is chalked full of contradictions, but they won't listen to it... it all makes perfect sense to them... Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. well, then you're as bad as they are if you're trying to "change" people... you really think you're going to change a fundamentalist? i mean, why? it's their life, who cares that they believe in a magical being with omniscient powers that controls everything in the known universes from the beginning of time till the end of time? I'm not trying to change them. I'm trying to educate them. Though people do tend to change with more education. I know many people that were fundamentalist that have changed their minds and much more. I don't care what they believe except when their beliefs affect more than just them. Like for instance schools not teaching evolution to teach creationism as science. It's been a major issues in many places.   good luck with that... HAHAHAHA I'm gonna have to save these. Thanks. |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Fri 10/02/15 04:01 PM
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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. What actions did I justify with that scripture? It says if people aren't receptive to listen then walk away. It's telling Christians don't force it....just walk away |
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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. What actions did I justify with that scripture? It says if people aren't receptive to listen then walk away. None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. |
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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. What actions did I justify with that scripture? It says if people aren't receptive to listen then walk away. None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Then don't twist what I posted into an arguement. I posted what I posted. Do you not agree with what I posted? |
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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. What actions did I justify with that scripture? It says if people aren't receptive to listen then walk away. None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Then don't twist what I posted into an arguement. I posted what I posted. Do you not agree with what I posted? I wasn't trying to twist it at all. All I did was post another line from the same page. I think you misunderstood my intention. |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Fri 10/02/15 05:02 PM
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Great....don't live it then. Damn. Seems you are completely missing what I am saying and wanting to twist it? Oh I got your point. My point however, was to point out that you can take anything from the bible. It's a big book of multiple choice that few people really read. so you focus on the "bad" parts? I'm atheist, but i see where the bibles have some really good philosophies... i just skip over the the rest, isn't worth looking at... I don't focus on the bad, but I can't just overlook it when there are people that use the bible as a justification for all their actions. What actions did I justify with that scripture? It says if people aren't receptive to listen then walk away. None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Then don't twist what I posted into an arguement. I posted what I posted. Do you not agree with what I posted? I wasn't trying to twist it at all. All I did was post another line from the same page. I think you misunderstood my intention. "Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. " i think she understood... |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Fri 10/02/15 05:43 PM
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None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. Maybe I am misunderstanding because these 2 statements seem to contradict each other. In the 1st you agree that people shouldn't force your belief. In the 2nd you are trying to force your belief |
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None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. Maybe I am misunderstanding because these 2 statements seem to contradict each other. In the 1st you agree that people shouldn't force your belief. In the 2nd you are trying to force your belief Not trying to force my beliefs. Just trying to educate. If after being informed of what it is the bible says their beliefs change. Great. If not, so be it. |
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None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. Maybe I am misunderstanding because these 2 statements seem to contradict each other. In the 1st you agree that people shouldn't force your belief. In the 2nd you are trying to force your belief Not trying to force my beliefs. Just trying to educate. If after being informed of what it is the bible says their beliefs change. Great. If not, so be it. Isn't that the same thing religious people do? Just educating what they believe like you do. The above posts are still contradictions |
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There will be many that don't believe in "God"
There will be many that don't believe in "God" but believe in a higher divinity. There will be many that will do what they can to sway either way. Me.. I know that there is a God. Others have to walk their own road |
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None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. Maybe I am misunderstanding because these 2 statements seem to contradict each other. In the 1st you agree that people shouldn't force your belief. In the 2nd you are trying to force your belief Not trying to force my beliefs. Just trying to educate. If after being informed of what it is the bible says their beliefs change. Great. If not, so be it. Isn't that the same thing religious people do? Just educating what they believe like you do. The above posts are still contradictions Religious people don't just educate. They preach. They threaten with hell. They try to change laws to support their religion. Many times they even break the law to push their religion onto people. I simply show them things in their religious text they may not know about. I would like to show every religious person in the world every horrible thing their own books advocate. Since I don't have a long enough life to accomplish this goal I will die trying. Once I show someone the parts they may not know about and they no longer are receptive to a conversation I leave it alone. Which is infact the idea of the verse you referenced. Therefore, the both statements simultaneously possible and in fact part of each other. |
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None, I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. If everyone used that line you referenced the would would be a much better place. Which is exactly why I point it out every chance I get. Until they see the contradiction they can't change. I can't enlighten everyone, but I'll die trying. Maybe I am misunderstanding because these 2 statements seem to contradict each other. In the 1st you agree that people shouldn't force your belief. In the 2nd you are trying to force your belief Not trying to force my beliefs. Just trying to educate. If after being informed of what it is the bible says their beliefs change. Great. If not, so be it. Isn't that the same thing religious people do? Just educating what they believe like you do. The above posts are still contradictions Religious people don't just educate. They preach. They threaten with hell. They try to change laws to support their religion. Many times they even break the law to push their religion onto people. I simply show them things in their religious text they may not know about. I would like to show every religious person in the world every horrible thing their own books advocate. Since I don't have a long enough life to accomplish this goal I will die trying. Once I show someone the parts they may not know about and they no longer are receptive to a conversation I leave it alone. Which is infact the idea of the verse you referenced. Therefore, the both statements simultaneously possible and in fact part of each other. I am religious and I don't do these things. Maybe not everyone wants the education just like not every non-believer wants it. There is no difference. You still haven't addressed the contradiction. It's either you agree and should just walk away or pointing out how others are wrong. Not any different than religious people |
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There will be many that don't believe in "God" There will be many that don't believe in "God" but believe in a higher divinity. There will be many that will do what they can to sway either way. Me.. I know that there is a God. Others have to walk their own road 
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What one calls preaching, another calls teaching. It isn't exclusive to Christians. It happens in all kinds of beliefs
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I only want to find out and understand why some people choose to believe that there is no such thing as God. It is not a choice. One does not have to justify the non-belief of a known non-object. You seek to know why they do not believe in something unbelievable. The proving lies with those who choose to believe in the intangible.. try proving it. Many could follow that. |
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Edited by
Pansytilly
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Fri 10/02/15 09:13 PM
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Rug, i used the term "concept of God" because i see no better word to use to get my point across with out being intentionally misunderstood or misinterpreted. But it seems that you have done just that as well. No, I am not saying God is just a concept. God is God.
I was only likening God with love, justice, integrity and their antitheses of hate, injustice, cowardice, and etc....only because these things are not scientifically provable, and yet, the reality of such do exist. And just as love is love, and hate is hate, i would say, God is God. There is no one acceptable logical explanation that can prove or define evidentially and materially each for what it is. Since you have replied so yourself that all these are only made up anyways, and it seems that you have taken a stance that science and logic is the be all and end all of everything, then i don't see much point in elaborating any further, as i am sure you have decided to maintain a completely negative or null stance with regard the matter. Thank you for your participation. Ladywind and soufie, i wanted to know why people claim the non-existence of God or what it was that made people decide to reject God, wholly or partially. Even a person living in solitude, without any knowledge of anything beyond himself, has the capacity to reflect on his very existence. Does he believe that he is all there is to his existence? Or does he search for reason of being? I know what you are trying to say soufie, but i do think in the long run of self examination, it is a matter of choice. Proof is not really the issue, because the way i see it, there is no such explicit evidence to prove beyond doubt the existence or non-existence of God either way. We are left with a choice that we are solely accountable for. Like what yellowrose says...preach or teach...it is semantics. Both have the same active purpose with different intents and motivations. Saying that one preaches or teaches does not define how and why they do so, but only that the purpose of both is to impart knowledge of what one believes to be true or not. The reason and manner such knowledge is imparted is often debatable based on the person listening and the person talking. The bible is wisdom to some and foolishness to others. Like i mentioned previously, it is a two way street. The material is there, it is a matter of recognition...and choice. Moe, i appreciate your input and insight on what happened to the conversation between rug and yellowrose. Thank you. Sitka, thank you for your comment as well. |
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Why? |
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Why? why ask why? |
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