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Topic: Dangerous attitudes
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Fri 06/22/18 11:55 AM
thank you.

maybe she is busy, i love her.

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Fri 06/22/18 11:57 AM
Ending poverty will never happen

there are too many factors one must consider and do
draconian measures have to be taken and today's legislators do not have the stomach,the will or desire to end poverty.

Poverty is what keeps the government going in all societies, whether it the rich western base, second or third world societies and authoritative Marxist Leninist states

Poverty keeps the government in business.

All the good intentions in the world will not stop it.

In America the United States government since 1964 has spent Trillions, the numbers vary from 10 to 14 trillion dollars. that is Trillions with a Capital "T".

How is poverty doing in the United States?

Poverty in America is caused by lack of economic opportunities
poor legislation
poor education system
Poor social system
inept government policies.

tell me how do you fix that?



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Fri 06/22/18 12:01 PM


I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.

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Fri 06/22/18 12:02 PM






Where as diserli says, poverty in static or developing countries means walking 5 miles to get a bucket of water and waiting for a un bag of rice, which by the way has been genetically modified so you can't actually grow it by the greedy seed companies in the west.


this is true LU (love you)

but the piece is speaking of conditions, which doesnt mean ALL conditions (like what programs are in place) but some conditions (like concentrated poverty, physical ACCESS to places and resources for assistance, crime, drugs, lack of protection ... et cetera)





whoa “?



Don't worry lu, it was meant for msharmony, you quoted what I said but she's ignoring me today.
Hence the 2 nudges winking


I rarely ignore anyone, especially you mikey.

I am on the computer most of the time working from home, I check on these threads between projects .. so it usually will show Im online, even when Im not on this tab.


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Fri 06/22/18 12:03 PM



I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.


thats a one track record. whether men will marry is not indication of whether they will be a father. The first husband after separating stayed in his sons life, the second husband after a year of marriage, bailed on the responsibility.

so women don't necessarily 'know' anything of the such,


plenty of people make terrible spouses but love their kids, and plenty of people are terrible at parenting but love their partner.

It isnt the childs decision for any of it, so they dont deserve to 'suffer'

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Fri 06/22/18 12:06 PM




I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.


thats a one track record. whether men will marry is not indication of whether they will be a father. The first husband after separating stayed in his sons life, the second husband after a year of marriage, bailed on the responsibility.

so women don't necessarily 'know' anything of the such,


plenty of people make terrible spouses but love their kids, and plenty of people are terrible at parenting but love their partner.

It isnt the childs decision for any of it, so they dont deserve to 'suffer'



flowers Love you!!!

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Fri 06/22/18 12:07 PM





I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.


thats a one track record. whether men will marry is not indication of whether they will be a father. The first husband after separating stayed in his sons life, the second husband after a year of marriage, bailed on the responsibility.

so women don't necessarily 'know' anything of the such,


plenty of people make terrible spouses but love their kids, and plenty of people are terrible at parenting but love their partner.

It isnt the childs decision for any of it, so they dont deserve to 'suffer'



flowers Love you!!!



love you too ...flowerforyou yours is a refreshing and loving aura,... dont change

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Fri 06/22/18 12:15 PM




I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.


thats a one track record. whether men will marry is not indication of whether they will be a father. The first husband after separating stayed in his sons life, the second husband after a year of marriage, bailed on the responsibility.

so women don't necessarily 'know' anything of the such,


plenty of people make terrible spouses but love their kids, and plenty of people are terrible at parenting but love their partner.

It isnt the childs decision for any of it, so they dont deserve to 'suffer'



When you divorce, the court sets child support. The father can be arrested.

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Fri 06/22/18 12:15 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 06/22/18 12:19 PM





I disagree. I think it's the woman's place to have a father for her child instead of relying on the govt.


We dont disagree, yet it is not within any individual's power to be responsible for what another individual does or doesnt do. So since women cant FORCE men to be fathers, it isnt their kids that should be left without as punishment.


Women know that a man who won't marry her, doesn't want to be a family. Trying to force him is wrong. Why would these men want to get married when women are giving them benefits without marriage. It's time people suffer for their own decisions instead of tax payers.


thats a one track record. whether men will marry is not indication of whether they will be a father. The first husband after separating stayed in his sons life, the second husband after a year of marriage, bailed on the responsibility.

so women don't necessarily 'know' anything of the such,


plenty of people make terrible spouses but love their kids, and plenty of people are terrible at parenting but love their partner.

It isnt the childs decision for any of it, so they dont deserve to 'suffer'



When you divorce, the court sets child support. The father can be arrested.


thats true. But there is no reason for kids to suffer merely because of a marital choice either. and an arrested father cant send money either.

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Fri 06/22/18 12:33 PM
We had 2 women lay out of work because a man got parole. They both ended up pregnant again. One baby #2 and the other baby #3. One man took the woman's car to go screw another woman when she finally came back to work. It's mothers responsibility that their kids have and not tax payers. It's time leaders in minority communities teach this.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:05 PM

Geneva (AFP) - The UN's top expert on extreme poverty warned Thursday that contemptful and cruel US policies towards the poor were disenfranchising millions, posing a threat to democracy in the country.

People living in poverty in the United States are seeing their rights "increasingly ignored", said Philip Alston, the UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights.

Speaking to reporters on the sidelines of the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, he said a "complete lack of compassion" characterised US policies towards the poor, who are becoming ever more "invisible in the political process".

According to the latest available statistics, from 2016, some 40 million Americans live in poverty, 18.5 million live in extreme poverty, and more than five million live in "Third World" conditions.

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Alston in particular decried policies that punish and imprison people who cannot afford to pay bills or fines, weakening their chances of finding or holding a job, housing and stability, and fuelling a cycle of poverty and desperation.

"Mass incarceration is used to make social problems temporarily invisible and to create the mirage of something having been done," he said in a report published earlier this month and based on a visit to several US states and territories last December.

"It is difficult to imagine a more self-defeating strategy," the report said.

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He warned that negative attitudes towards foreigners often foreshadow attitudes towards other vulnerable groups in a society.

"I think once you have departed from that basic commitment to minimum humane standards, it doesn't usually stop at the borders," he said, describing the developments as "deeply troubling".

Alston is due to present his report to the rights council on Friday, just days after Washington decided to withdraw from the body, meaning no US representatives are expected to be present to react to his findings.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lack-compassion-poor-threatens-us-democracy-un-expert-183748933.html


The United States has a higher prison population than China and North Korea combined.

We're in good company.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:10 PM
If we cut out 3 meals a day, air conditioning, and cable tv, that might change. They should bring back the chain gang.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:12 PM

We had 2 women lay out of work because a man got parole. They both ended up pregnant again. One baby #2 and the other baby #3. One man took the woman's car to go screw another woman when she finally came back to work. It's mothers responsibility that their kids have and not tax payers. It's time leaders in minority communities teach this.


2 women out of work because a man got parole ?
Who are these minority community leaders?
At least you don't stereotype or generalise.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:21 PM


We had 2 women lay out of work because a man got parole. They both ended up pregnant again. One baby #2 and the other baby #3. One man took the woman's car to go screw another woman when she finally came back to work. It's mothers responsibility that their kids have and not tax payers. It's time leaders in minority communities teach this.


2 women out of work because a man got parole ?
Who are these minority community leaders?
At least you don't stereotype or generalise.



Statistic don't lie. Pretending a problem doesn't exist, won't make it go away. Oprah seems to want to be an inspiration to her people. Just doesn't want to say the things that need to be said. Kanye is a Trump supporter so he is on the right path. Maybe blm should teach their people how to have a better life instead of continuing a welfare cycle.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:27 PM



The United States has a higher prison population than China and North Korea combined.

We're in good company.


thank Bill Clinton for that


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Fri 06/22/18 02:30 PM

We had 2 women lay out of work because a man got parole. They both ended up pregnant again. One baby #2 and the other baby #3. One man took the woman's car to go screw another woman when she finally came back to work. It's mothers responsibility that their kids have and not tax payers. It's time leaders in minority communities teach this.


leaders in minority communities huh?

okay.

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Fri 06/22/18 02:32 PM



We had 2 women lay out of work because a man got parole. They both ended up pregnant again. One baby #2 and the other baby #3. One man took the woman's car to go screw another woman when she finally came back to work. It's mothers responsibility that their kids have and not tax payers. It's time leaders in minority communities teach this.


2 women out of work because a man got parole ?
Who are these minority community leaders?
At least you don't stereotype or generalise.



Statistic don't lie. Pretending a problem doesn't exist, won't make it go away. Oprah seems to want to be an inspiration to her people. Just doesn't want to say the things that need to be said. Kanye is a Trump supporter so he is on the right path. Maybe blm should teach their people how to have a better life instead of continuing a welfare cycle.


maybe congress (white lives matter) should teach their people how to cope with adversity and disappointment, instead of picking up guns and mowing people down ..


wow, look at that, generalization works both ways ...


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Fri 06/22/18 02:36 PM



maybe congress (white lives matter) should teach their people how to cope with adversity and disappointment, instead of picking up guns and mowing people down ..


wow, look at that, generalization works both ways ...




you know that congress has all sorts of ethnicity right?

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Fri 06/22/18 02:55 PM
Yeah, I haven't mowed anybody down today lol. In my neighborhood we mow the grass.

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Fri 06/22/18 03:05 PM

They have the right to get a job.


Slight disagreement: they have a legal right to try:

The right to life, liberty and the "pursuit of happiness".

The constitution does not guarantee every citizen a job. It does guarantee access to education and freedom from various forms of discrimination to obtain work according to their skill set and willingness to try.

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