Topic: Dangerous attitudes
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Sat 06/23/18 06:02 PM
could have, would have, if ands.. candy and nuts

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Sat 06/23/18 06:03 PM




Believe whatever blows your skirt up.

I did not canvass my neighborhood checking out the ethnicities of my neighbors. I did not knock on a single door. The only thing I did, was check with the Township Council to see what the property taxes on the residence would be.

That was enough for me.


we are outliers in this crowd when it comes to race hangups ... it seems


THIS is what sparked it.. Who mentioned "race" first?



My OP is about a black teen (child) shot in the back by a cop, And you immediately declared him a "thug" and said you were backing the cop.

I find myself wondering if your pic is real, because you sure don't sound like a black person.
oh please youre such actually never mind, dont want the mods to delete the thread, focusing on my pics is just proof that you have no cogent point.

back to the point.

If a teen or a person is involved in a shooting of another person ( do I need to explain the concept of shooting someone)they are not law abiding citizens.

A thug is a criminal especially those involved in shootings? can you tell me why a 17 year old teen has a gun and using it to shoot others?


Because Im Black I should side with all black people and Democrats?

You're as bad as Hillary Clinton that said all women should have voted for her because she is a woman.

I dont support any criminal of any race , is that clear enough for you.

By the way that is a racist comment, about not sound like a black person

how are black people suppose to act like?

am I suppose to use urban slang and instead of saying "ask" I should use "Axe" instead?

By the way I know youre black and do you live in a black neighbourhood or a white neighbourhood.



so tell me who mentioned Race first Viper, I didn't.

since you posted what I actually said.


In the context of where I live, you did.

As pertains to you personally, and my perception of your statements, I did.

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Sat 06/23/18 06:05 PM



the 'right way' happened to favor white Europeans who had been in the states for two years already ... times have changed ... the comparison is not quite the same. ...




Ellis Island was not the cake wake that modern society portrays it. There were 4 points that all Europeans were evalated on. Not meeting all four of these points were grounds for being placed on the next boat back to Europe. All immigrants were informed of the requirements before they boarded their ship:

1. Not having proof of identity and date of birth
2. Criminal history
3. Mental illness
4. Long tern illness. All immigrants received a basic medical examination. If one was sick they were placed in an infirmary with medical treatment. Parents were separated from children and male and female family members were separated in different buildings. If still sick after 10 days they were returned to their home country.

My mothers parents came from Germany (1912) and my fathers parents came from Sweden (1900). In their words lots of Europeons were repatriated back to their country of origin.

If the above four requirements were still in place the news media would call it unfair. Again, Ellis Island was not the cake wake.


I wonder how they had 'proof' of no criminal history in the 17 or 18th century.


The large European influx took place in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Large cables were laid across the Atlantic ocean from England to the New York area and used Morse code to communicate. Major news was relayed back and forth. Daily news papers were shipped both ways as well. Immigration kept track of names, locations and crimes committed.

By the end of the 19th century passports were required by most western countries. Birthdays and places were documented in European countries by Churches when children were both born and baptized. So access to and documentation of population records didn't begin in the 20th century. No, not as accurate but it still existed. In fact, my grand mother (mothers side) used the family Bible (with the priests signature) as proof of her birth date.

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Sat 06/23/18 06:08 PM
Its not my fault if your perception of what I actually said offended you VIPER.

If my words are harming you or offending you then perhaps you are too fragile for these forums, perhaps you should try kiddie corner where they can post memes all day berating Trump, maybe that is your speed.

I wish you luck comrade Viper.


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Sat 06/23/18 06:33 PM


That way of thinking is getting your people killed. The girls in the slinderman case were only 12 but charged as adults.


Pathetic isn't it? If the high school quarterback, had banged one of them, he would be a "rapist", and she would be a "child sexual abuse victim". But somewhere, there's a magic button, and when the DA pushes it, the "child" is instantly and magically transformed into an "adult".

Yes, hypocrisy abounds.




Age of consent is 16.

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Sat 06/23/18 07:14 PM



That way of thinking is getting your people killed. The girls in the slinderman case were only 12 but charged as adults.


Pathetic isn't it? If the high school quarterback, had banged one of them, he would be a "rapist", and she would be a "child sexual abuse victim". But somewhere, there's a magic button, and when the DA pushes it, the "child" is instantly and magically transformed into an "adult".

Yes, hypocrisy abounds.




Age of consent is 16.


So that's your supposition is it?

They are adults if they kill, but children if they get laid?

Hypocrite much?

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Sun 06/24/18 12:42 AM

my point is he doesn't live in area where its mostly black and other poorer minorities live because he can afford to live elsewhere and feel "safer" from the gangs.


For those who live in section 8 housing that its a challenge living safely day to day, I actually feel bad for most of them because they are good people on the wrong side of the economic track.

So to sit here and say oh those poor teens that was shot he must have been a good boy or the wrong place at the wrong time blah blah blah, is B.S.

Life in those hoods is rough, everyone knows that including law enforcement why that kid started running is anyone guess but he must have been guilty of something and before you say...

the coward cop shot an unarmed kid , dont bother.

You will never convince me that the kid was innocent as he was involved in another shooting , I dont care if he had a weapon on him or not, nobody could have known that he didn't have gun on him or it was in his car in those split seconds







I know, seems you are too convinced that the kid was guilty enough to deserve a bullet in the back ...

this is a country with gun rights, noone can know that anyone might have a weapon or not, its never been justifiable excuse to use deadly force on someone running away though.

nothing could probably convince you otherwise.


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Sun 06/24/18 08:44 AM



I know, seems you are too convinced that the kid was guilty enough to deserve a bullet in the back ...

this is a country with gun rights, noone can know that anyone might have a weapon or not, its never been justifiable excuse to use deadly force on someone running away though.

nothing could probably convince you otherwise.




Im sick of people like you making excuses for bad behaviour, I tend to look at the whole picture before forming an opinion.

What do I know from that incident, three men fitting the same description involved in a shooting of another person, police responded, stop the vehicle and two of them ran one was shot.

Missing from the story was the driver of that vehicle didn't run, he was taken into custody and then release

Oh my God he wasn't shot, why? he didn't run, he was picked up questioned then released

Probably because he didn't do anything, and yet he still alive, imagine my shock.

Innocent people dont run, oh by the way the guns were found in the car with the driver .

While nobody deserves to be gunned down , the reality is if you want to live by the gun you must accept the consequences of also dying at the hands of a gun

Its really that simple.


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Sun 06/24/18 09:31 AM




I know, seems you are too convinced that the kid was guilty enough to deserve a bullet in the back ...

this is a country with gun rights, noone can know that anyone might have a weapon or not, its never been justifiable excuse to use deadly force on someone running away though.

nothing could probably convince you otherwise.




Im sick of people like you making excuses for bad behaviour, I tend to look at the whole picture before forming an opinion.

What do I know from that incident, three men fitting the same description involved in a shooting of another person, police responded, stop the vehicle and two of them ran one was shot.

Missing from the story was the driver of that vehicle didn't run, he was taken into custody and then release

Oh my God he wasn't shot, why? he didn't run, he was picked up questioned then released

Probably because he didn't do anything, and yet he still alive, imagine my shock.

Innocent people dont run, oh by the way the guns were found in the car with the driver .

While nobody deserves to be gunned down , the reality is if you want to live by the gun you must accept the consequences of also dying at the hands of a gun

Its really that simple.




what 'excuse' did I make by saying that he didnt deserve to be gunned down when he was unarmed and running away, SHOT IN THE BACK?


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Sun 06/24/18 09:31 AM




I know, seems you are too convinced that the kid was guilty enough to deserve a bullet in the back ...

this is a country with gun rights, noone can know that anyone might have a weapon or not, its never been justifiable excuse to use deadly force on someone running away though.

nothing could probably convince you otherwise.




Im sick of people like you making excuses for bad behaviour, I tend to look at the whole picture before forming an opinion.

What do I know from that incident, three men fitting the same description involved in a shooting of another person, police responded, stop the vehicle and two of them ran one was shot.

Missing from the story was the driver of that vehicle didn't run, he was taken into custody and then release

Oh my God he wasn't shot, why? he didn't run, he was picked up questioned then released

Probably because he didn't do anything, and yet he still alive, imagine my shock.

Innocent people dont run, oh by the way the guns were found in the car with the driver .

While nobody deserves to be gunned down , the reality is if you want to live by the gun you must accept the consequences of also dying at the hands of a gun

Its really that simple.




what 'excuse' did I make by saying that he didnt deserve to be gunned down when he was unarmed and running away, SHOT IN THE BACK?


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Sun 06/24/18 10:31 AM



what 'excuse' did I make by saying that he didnt deserve to be gunned down when he was unarmed and running away, SHOT IN THE BACK?



frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

you keeping making the same excuse, he was shot in the back

so what? he was involved in a shooting earlier, how is the cop suppose to know he doesn't have a weapon on him when he was running

Seriously why are having a hard time understanding this

The driver of the vehicle didn't run , and he was taken into custody , questioned and release, was he shot at?

The answer is No,why ? he didn't run.

The reality certain ethnicity will not get the benefit of the doubt in certain situation.

Also certain types of groups also face the same struggles

A car full of white skinheads if told shot up a black church or whatever and fled and the cops caught up to them and two of them ran, they would be shot too.

If a car full of Arabs/Muslim involved in a shooting and they were stopped and they got out and ran they would be shot too.

Vs a car full of White clean cut suburbanites kids, unless they were involved in a shooting and if they started running they would be shot too.

The only one Im not certain of if its a car full of women, I think the exception would be minority women



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Sun 06/24/18 11:00 AM




what 'excuse' did I make by saying that he didnt deserve to be gunned down when he was unarmed and running away, SHOT IN THE BACK?



frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

you keeping making the same excuse, he was shot in the back

so what? he was involved in a shooting earlier, how is the cop suppose to know he doesn't have a weapon on him when he was running

Seriously why are having a hard time understanding this

The driver of the vehicle didn't run , and he was taken into custody , questioned and release, was he shot at?

The answer is No,why ? he didn't run.

The reality certain ethnicity will not get the benefit of the doubt in certain situation.

Also certain types of groups also face the same struggles

A car full of white skinheads if told shot up a black church or whatever and fled and the cops caught up to them and two of them ran, they would be shot too.

If a car full of Arabs/Muslim involved in a shooting and they were stopped and they got out and ran they would be shot too.

Vs a car full of White clean cut suburbanites kids, unless they were involved in a shooting and if they started running they would be shot too.

The only one Im not certain of if its a car full of women, I think the exception would be minority women






When are you gonna get that there was no way to know WHICH of the three people were shooters and the people RUNNING did NOT have guns in their hands.

the rest is irrelevant to shooting someone IN THE BACK.

you dont know much about America when it comes to this, people run from COPS ALL THE TIME and are indeed NOT SHOT IN THE BACK, even ones suspected of shooting others ...



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Sun 06/24/18 11:08 AM
My money would be on the ones running. :joy:

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Sun 06/24/18 11:10 AM
Im sure it would be. There is no mystery to the things you support at this point.


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Sun 06/24/18 11:14 AM
Edited by diserli_gears on Sun 06/24/18 11:20 AM



When are you gonna get that there was no way to know WHICH of the three people were shooters and the people RUNNING did NOT have guns in their hands.


Again, I will tell you how is the cop supposed to know who has gun while they are running?


the rest is irrelevant to shooting someone IN THE BACK.

you dont know much about America when it comes to this, people run from COPS ALL THE TIME and are indeed NOT SHOT IN THE BACK, even ones suspected of shooting others ...





because I dont live in America I dont know what goes on in America? that is a silly statement if Ive ever heard one.

Ive been the states more than a 100 times to know what to do vs what not to do

Running from the cops is one of them.

It doesn't take a PHD or a masters degree to figure that out, I dont care what country you are in .

Ive never been to Zimbabwe , and I know how corrupt some are, and even then I still wouldnt run.


So have you run from the cops when stopped?

You wont answer that question for some reason.

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Sun 06/24/18 11:15 AM
Seriously, when people protest for thugs, it makes the protest for the innocent worthless. In the U.S. it's a new minority protest every week. Actually, two this week. It's like CNN bashing Trump. It becomes meaningless. Maybe when the 1st of the month checks get here, we can get a small break from the protest.

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Sun 06/24/18 11:17 AM
Again, I will tell you how is the cop supposed to know who has gun while they are running?


,,,, look at his hands?

do you think in the academy they just shoot all the perps and say 'how am I supposed to know if they have a gun?" ....smh

and I have not run from the cops, I have also not cursed at cops, but I STIlL wouldnt try justifying execution by cop for others who have run or cursed, just because I didnt.



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Sun 06/24/18 11:19 AM

Seriously, when people protest for thugs, it makes the protest for the innocent worthless. In the U.S. it's a new minority protest every week. Actually, two this week. It's like CNN bashing Trump. It becomes meaningless. Maybe when the 1st of the month checks get here, we can get a small break from the protest.



so many things seem meaningless, until they arent ... womens suffrogates probably for years thought what they did was meaningless, and people probably said ignorant things like "Maybe if their husbands lay the pipe to them better, we can get a small break from their protesting"

yet they carried on, and now upstanding women can brag all over the internet about how they had employment to support their own families all by themselves ...



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Sun 06/24/18 12:08 PM

and I have not run from the cops, I have also not cursed at cops, but I STIlL wouldnt try justifying execution by cop for others who have run or cursed, just because I didnt.




why haven't you run from the cops, why didn't you curse at the cops?

Do you teach your son to run from the cops?

You haven't explained why the driver of the vehicle wasn't shot.


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Sun 06/24/18 12:10 PM


and I have not run from the cops, I have also not cursed at cops, but I STIlL wouldnt try justifying execution by cop for others who have run or cursed, just because I didnt.




why haven't you run from the cops, why didn't you curse at the cops?

Do you teach your son to run from the cops?

You haven't explained why the driver of the vehicle wasn't shot.




you havent explained how kids doing what they 'shouldnt' do with authorities justifies a death penalty.