Topic: trump shows his true colors& loyalty to russians
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Fri 07/20/18 02:50 PM
Someone posted Trump owns five hundred companies, I referenced THEIR number, not private or public.

I know that of these 500 that are his excuse for 6 bankruptcies not being that much, they INCLUDE any company of which he is President, trustee, Chairman or MEMBER

so like I said, much like other Billionaires with the same presence in HUNDREDS of companies, and I would love a comparison to those billionaires regarding how often they file chapter 11s

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Fri 07/20/18 03:01 PM
Warren Buffet and Bill Gates ( to name just a few) have owned companies that filed for bankruptcy

It is a common business tool.

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Fri 07/20/18 03:24 PM

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates ( to name just a few) have owned companies that filed for bankruptcy

It is a common business tool.


Warren buffet,who has a new worth of over $82 BILLION dollars, HAS made mistakes,and had companies that failed,and declared bankruptcy,but,unlike Donald trump,he has OWNED his mistakes,and taken full responsibility for them!!

the company that he was a partial investor in,Energy Future Holdings,he bought 25% of for $2 billion dollars,and wound up selling his share for $259 million dollars,after receiving profits of $837 million dollars before the crash,he took a loss of $873 million dollars on the deal.

notice I said that HE took the loss!!!
he didn't leave OTHER PEOPLE holding the bag while he sailed away on a golden parachute,like trump does.

THAT is what makes warren buffet so much different than Donald trump,and gives warren buffet the ability to ridicule trump about his bankruptcies,and tax returns like he has publically done!!


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Fri 07/20/18 03:43 PM

Someone posted Trump owns five hundred companies, I referenced THEIR number, not private or public.

I know that of these 500 that are his excuse for 6 bankruptcies not being that much, they INCLUDE any company of which he is President, trustee, Chairman or MEMBER

so like I said, much like other Billionaires with the same presence in HUNDREDS of companies, and I would love a comparison to those billionaires regarding how often they file chapter 11s msharmony


First thing you cannot compare billionaires and how they made their money.
Bill Gates doesn't own as many companies like Warren Buffett.

Buffett made his money through ownership of companies, equities and such, Trump through Real estate development

Oprah through her production company and such, George Lucas through Star wars, Zuckerberg through Facebook, jeff Bazos through Amazon.

are you catching on yet?

Its like comparing Lebron James Salary to Cristiano Ronaldo salary, or Robert downey salary to Lada gaga's just because they are in the entertainment business and one of the highest paid entertainers.


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Fri 07/20/18 03:45 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/20/18 03:46 PM
other Billionaires with the same presence in HUNDREDS of companies,

FOR CLARITY

I dont recall buying groceries and being asked the SOURCE for the money exchanged in the transaction.

so yeah, someone wealthy can be compared to someone wealthy with relevance to what the type of life they can afford to live and material and vital things they can afford to have. money is all green, whether it was from a check signed by mcdonalds owner or by Warner Brothers.

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Fri 07/20/18 03:55 PM


Trump is donating his salary back to the people. Imagine if all the politicians did that. I bet Obama won't give up his retirement. Clinton's either.


trump is ALSO gaining A LOT MORE than his salary that he is 'donating' [and,claiming as a tax deduction!] on things like all of the MILLIONS of tax dollars that trump is making us spend to house him,and,and all of his hundreds of security personnel at his hotels,and resorts,like mara lago that he INSISTS on staying at.
[at FULL PRICE]

if trump is so 'altruistic' why doesn't he donate all of THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS back,as well,instead of fleecing the government[and US] out of?

if trump is so 'altruistic',why do all of the bills and tax breaks ta he tries to pass always benefit HIM,HIS BUSINESSES,HIS FAMILY,and BILLIONAIRE CRONIES,while they leave US holding the bag,and paying for them?

I would pay $400,000 a year to be able to gain MILLIONS of dollars,too!!
[ESPECIALLY if I was going to be able to claim it on my taxes as a charitable contribution,and get it all back!!]

wouldn't you?

yes I would, because I'm not a fool with my money. All of his financial dealings are legal. So because he holds a government job he should be limited on trying to succeed in his private business. Only a fool throws money away to create a false image of himself. At least he won't try to steal the furniture out of the whitehouse when his second term is up like the Clinton's did.

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Fri 07/20/18 04:14 PM

other Billionaires with the same presence in HUNDREDS of companies,

FOR CLARITY

I dont recall buying groceries and being asked the SOURCE for the money exchanged in the transaction.

so yeah, someone wealthy can be compared to someone wealthy with relevance to what the type of life they can afford to live and material and vital things they can afford to have. money is all green, whether it was from a check signed by mcdonalds owner or by Warner Brothers. msharmony


buying groceries and asking where the money is from, huh?

that makes no sense.

look, Find another person who made billions through real estate and owns hundreds of companies and then compare.

I cannot compare Bill Gates to Jeff Bazos or Bloomberg to Steve Forbes, just like I cannot compare Bill Clinton to Barrack Obama, heck you cant even compare George H.W Bush to George W.Bush and they are father and son.


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Fri 07/20/18 04:20 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/20/18 04:20 PM


other Billionaires with the same presence in HUNDREDS of companies,

FOR CLARITY

I dont recall buying groceries and being asked the SOURCE for the money exchanged in the transaction.

so yeah, someone wealthy can be compared to someone wealthy with relevance to what the type of life they can afford to live and material and vital things they can afford to have. money is all green, whether it was from a check signed by mcdonalds owner or by Warner Brothers. msharmony


buying groceries and asking where the money is from, huh?

that makes no sense.

look, Find another person who made billions through real estate and owns hundreds of companies and then compare.

I cannot compare Bill Gates to Jeff Bazos or Bloomberg to Steve Forbes, just like I cannot compare Bill Clinton to Barrack Obama, heck you cant even compare George H.W Bush to George W.Bush and they are father and son.




WHAT does where he made the money have to do with accepting half a mill salary or not or if he was responsible with his investments enough to avoid chapter 11 bankruptcies?

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Fri 07/20/18 05:04 PM


WHAT does where he made the money have to do with accepting half a mill salary or not or if he was responsible with his investments enough to avoid chapter 11 bankruptcies? msharmony




You were the one comparing his net worth to salary, not me

I just corrected you in telling you that you cannot compare someone's net worth to what they earned.

I gave you Warren Buffet as an example.

You asked how many billionaires went bankrupt and I replied A few billionaires went personally bankrupt not corporate bankrupt.

YOu mentioned asking where the money is coming from and I replied there is no comparison or point.

Just like I said We don't know how liquid Trump is, or what he actually earned because he wont release his tax returns and even I have an issue with that.



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Sat 07/21/18 12:04 AM
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-more-flexibility-russia/

Even the Liberal Snopes verified Obama telling Russia to wait until after the election....

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Sat 07/21/18 03:45 AM

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-more-flexibility-russia/

Even the Liberal Snopes verified Obama telling Russia to wait until after the election....
yea, that idiot thought the mic was off, and started yacking about Russia and lots of people heard him say that.... Almost as good as the 59 state thing....

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Sat 07/21/18 04:28 AM
Edited by tombraider on Sat 07/21/18 04:37 AM


Obama I feel is definitely involved but it seems that everyone is sort of avoiding him...for now..the Deep State knows it's days are numbered ..I'm sure they picked up on it when Putin handed Trump the ball..twilight language? I think what some don't realize is this story of Trump and the quest he's on may have started as far back as 1999 and the death of JFK Jr...and the rise of the Evil Queen..(insert demonic laugh here)..It's here I believe that the story starts to be told an interesting read and just another tunnel down the rabbit hole but one that should be explored ..there are many...

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Sat 07/21/18 04:44 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sat 07/21/18 04:47 AM

Donald trump had his 'summit' with Vladimir putin,in Helsinki,finland,but,against the advice of ALL of his advisors,he insisted on meeting with him in private,with asolutley nostaff,or witnesses,except for a translator.
after the private 2 hour meeting with putin,trump then made a public appearance where he made outrageously friendly compliments abot putin,and defended him,claiming that not only did putin NOT have anything to do with interfering in our recent elections,he also claimed that he had absolutely no reason to,and publically denounced our own intelligence agencies,who have ALL said that there is abundant evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Russia DID interfere in our elections.

the entire government has now called out trump for his comments,and are now seriously considering that there is a good chance that trump is working for the Russians.
even FOXnews has publically denounced trump for this un-American behavior,and it has made the entire American public wonder just WHY the president of the united states would act this way,and there is now a lot of discussion wodering if it is because he Russians have incriminating evidence against him,or possibly that the infamous 'pee-tape' that has been discussed is real,as well as the fact that there is also a good possibility that trump is financially dependent on the Russians,since domestic banks will no longer loan him money due to the fact that he has declared bankruptcy,and left thrm holding the bag so many times,and has STILL not released his personal income tax returns to the public.

due to the extreme backlash that he has been receiving from all sides,trump is now trying to backtrack his comments,but the general attitude is that it might be 'too little,too late'!!



I agree ... he always is flip flopping with what ever he does ...

I don't think I will forget him asking for help from Russia in his running for president ... they say now they have the proof that Russia manipulated the votes... I am not angry becouse Hilary did not win ... its the fact that it has come out with the meddling in the voting polls ... if u can not trust our voting system for the public then what is the use ...I use to think Putin was a great leader ... when the Olympics came about ... but he decided to attack Ukraine while this was going on ...I lost all faith & respect in him ... and saw he did not want peace ... and was not the man I thought he was ... or had become ... now as far as our sitting president he runs amuck... and is in this for himself... his donors ... and wants the pork as they all do while in office ... like the wall in Mexico ... thats his pork and wants that to be his legacy ... and is doing more harm then good ...

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Sat 07/21/18 05:01 AM


Trump didn't need the Russians help..he was already getting help from the inside and military intelligence before he became president..Even if Hillary had won there was already a military coup planned to insure she wouldn't serve..Trump was aware of all the corruption before he entered office..in other words Trump didn't need the Russians help...

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Sat 07/21/18 05:28 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sat 07/21/18 05:31 AM



Trump didn't need the Russians help..he was already getting help from the inside and military intelligence before he became president..Even if Hillary had won there was already a military coup planned to insure she wouldn't serve..Trump was aware of all the corruption before he entered office..in other words Trump didn't need the Russians help...



They found evidence about Russia but do you think this is just a deterrent...from he was already getting help from the inside and military intelligence before he became president.

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Sat 07/21/18 05:49 AM



Let's face it one would have to be blind not to see the Russian dossier BS should have been over long ago..so what are you going to do call Trump in for questioning over that which has proven to be fake ..there was no Russian collusion on Trump's part..and the real story is Uranium One..and why Trump brought up a little known pipeline between Russia and Germany..and the big pay off was when Putin handed him the soccer ball.."information" ...there is a whole lot more to this story than people realize..they just don't do the research ..this story has many layers..it starts I believe with a friendship..ever wonder why Trump is looking to fill positions with military personnel..there are others who are playing this game of chess as well..Sessions knows what trump Knows about the corruption..But the whole jest of the sideshow is to entertain the masses and lead the main stream media away from the real prize..Uranium One and who was involved..and now Trump has 160 terabytes of info and intercepted communications gifted by Putin..one reason for the summit ..there is a lot more and it's pretty interesting all that is going on in this chess game..The ball that Putin gave Trump was very significant..did you know this?..twilight language?..

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Sat 07/21/18 08:13 AM


Donald trump had his 'summit' with Vladimir putin,in Helsinki,finland,but,against the advice of ALL of his advisors,he insisted on meeting with him in private,with asolutley nostaff,or witnesses,except for a translator.
after the private 2 hour meeting with putin,trump then made a public appearance where he made outrageously friendly compliments abot putin,and defended him,claiming that not only did putin NOT have anything to do with interfering in our recent elections,he also claimed that he had absolutely no reason to,and publically denounced our own intelligence agencies,who have ALL said that there is abundant evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Russia DID interfere in our elections.

the entire government has now called out trump for his comments,and are now seriously considering that there is a good chance that trump is working for the Russians.
even FOXnews has publically denounced trump for this un-American behavior,and it has made the entire American public wonder just WHY the president of the united states would act this way,and there is now a lot of discussion wodering if it is because he Russians have incriminating evidence against him,or possibly that the infamous 'pee-tape' that has been discussed is real,as well as the fact that there is also a good possibility that trump is financially dependent on the Russians,since domestic banks will no longer loan him money due to the fact that he has declared bankruptcy,and left thrm holding the bag so many times,and has STILL not released his personal income tax returns to the public.

due to the extreme backlash that he has been receiving from all sides,trump is now trying to backtrack his comments,but the general attitude is that it might be 'too little,too late'!!



I agree ... he always is flip flopping with what ever he does ...

I don't think I will forget him asking for help from Russia in his running for president ... they say now they have the proof that Russia manipulated the votes... I am not angry becouse Hilary did not win ... its the fact that it has come out with the meddling in the voting polls ... if u can not trust our voting system for the public then what is the use ...I use to think Putin was a great leader ... when the Olympics came about ... but he decided to attack Ukraine while this was going on ...I lost all faith & respect in him ... and saw he did not want peace ... and was not the man I thought he was ... or had become ... now as far as our sitting president he runs amuck... and is in this for himself... his donors ... and wants the pork as they all do while in office ... like the wall in Mexico ... thats his pork and wants that to be his legacy ... and is doing more harm then good ...
OMG...take a break from MSNBC for a while, they're they're liberal owned and biased....the Clinton's have a long relationship with the Russians, who is a major donor to the Clinton foundation scam...obama has been polishing Russian knobs for at least 8 years now, giving them everything from land to urainium...so, the setting the MSNBC narrations aside, who would have more and better Russian government connections, Trump (who's been in politics about 2 years now) or the other two, who have a combined history of Russian interactions of about 50 years?

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Thu 07/26/18 04:30 AM


The rats had already built their bunkers ready to scurry underground when the SHTF..because that's what rats do..But now quite the different story and different outcome that they had imagined..Most have no idea as to what is really going on..and while some may want to raise their ire over nothing more than "we don't like what he says" we think he's making money off of his companies..WHO CARES..

Do you all not realize what's at stake here or will we continue to gripe over the petty BS ..This man is trying to save your country..and this is possibly one of the greatest stories ever told..it has so many twist and turns and yet the truth is below surface..Do the research travel down the rabbit hole checking out the deepest of tunnels..

Most really have not a clue only see what's on the surface..and whats on the surface is nothing more than smoke and mirrors..assisted by main stream media which has been used to misinform since the beginning ..Trump was groomed for the job have you not wondered how a business man has been getting so many things right and has achieved a positive direction for this country..more done in less time ..and let me put this out there..Obama was a joke and so is Hillary, Billy pedophile boy and the Bushes whose family helped the Nazis back in the day..and coca cola and Henry Ford..Did ya know?
You see war is very profitable for some..unless you're the one being shot and killed..Do you get this..Your children or your parents or maybe yourself were sent into war so that others may profit..Do you get it NOW?..


That's right all that you see is not real..and that's the way it was intended..All these years you have been duped ..Break free of the matrix created..and it is one BIG matrix..After doing the research and at times I wished I hadn't because now I am pissed..I have realized that freedom wasn't really freedom and the truth from the beginning of my time has been nothing but LIES..We have been used for far too long ..and Trump..is trying to show you this..But some will refuse to see and continue to be duped as they have been for far too long..WAKE UP people this is what the GREAT AWAKENING is all about..it's to open your eyes for the first time..like never before..EYES WIDE OPEN...WWG1 WGA

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Thu 07/26/18 04:40 AM



The rats had already built their bunkers ready to scurry underground when the SHTF..because that's what rats do..But now quite the different story and different outcome that they had imagined..Most have no idea as to what is really going on..and while some may want to raise their ire over nothing more than "we don't like what he says" we think he's making money off of his companies..WHO CARES..

Do you all not realize what's at stake here or will we continue to gripe over the petty BS ..This man is trying to save your country..and this is possibly one of the greatest stories ever told..it has so many twist and turns and yet the truth is below surface..Do the research travel down the rabbit hole checking out the deepest of tunnels..

Most really have not a clue only see what's on the surface..and whats on the surface is nothing more than smoke and mirrors..assisted by main stream media which has been used to misinform since the beginning ..Trump was groomed for the job have you not wondered how a business man has been getting so many things right and has achieved a positive direction for this country..more done in less time ..and let me put this out there..Obama was a joke and so is Hillary, Billy pedophile boy and the Bushes whose family helped the Nazis back in the day..and coca cola and Henry Ford..Did ya know?
You see war is very profitable for some..unless you're the one being shot and killed..Do you get this..Your children or your parents or maybe yourself were sent into war so that others may profit..Do you get it NOW?..


That's right all that you see is not real..and that's the way it was intended..All these years you have been duped ..Break free of the matrix created..and it is one BIG matrix..After doing the research and at times I wished I hadn't because now I am pissed..I have realized that freedom wasn't really freedom and the truth from the beginning of my time has been nothing but LIES..We have been used for far too long ..and Trump..is trying to show you this..But some will refuse to see and continue to be duped as they have been for far too long..WAKE UP people this is what the GREAT AWAKENING is all about..it's to open your eyes for the first time..like never before..EYES WIDE OPEN...WWG1 WGA
I'd be willing to bet that most people don't even know how the bush family got rich in the first place...but setting that aside for a moment, the liberals are just pawns for something bigger that controls most everything...I don't think they got Trump or Putin yet, but I'm sure it's in the works...

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Thu 07/26/18 04:42 AM


Warren Buffet and Bill Gates ( to name just a few) have owned companies that filed for bankruptcy

It is a common business tool.


Warren buffet,who has a new worth of over $82 BILLION dollars, HAS made mistakes,and had companies that failed,and declared bankruptcy,but,unlike Donald trump,he has OWNED his mistakes,and taken full responsibility for them!!

the company that he was a partial investor in,Energy Future Holdings,he bought 25% of for $2 billion dollars,and wound up selling his share for $259 million dollars,after receiving profits of $837 million dollars before the crash,he took a loss of $873 million dollars on the deal.

notice I said that HE took the loss!!!
he didn't leave OTHER PEOPLE holding the bag while he sailed away on a golden parachute,like trump does.

THAT is what makes warren buffet so much different than Donald trump,and gives warren buffet the ability to ridicule trump about his bankruptcies,and tax returns like he has publically done!!




Banks know they are taking a risk everytime they lend money. They make big bucks for taking risk. So do other investors. It's business....