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Topic: Coronavirus
Toks86freeman's photo
Sun 03/22/20 09:17 PM



One of the 2015 research studies conducted at the institute to modify Bat caronavirus ...

http://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

What do you think toks ?????



Well, let's assume the virus is from bat. But I will have to go with "oldkid's" advice

*Focus on the present and what you can do for your future, not what is in the past that you cannot change.*

:thumbsup:
the past holds the most important key to a cure .
If they do not find the source .. a Future cure will take too long . Hopefully China now have time to focus on a cure and finding the source .


They have found the cure. Haven't they?

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Sun 03/22/20 09:36 PM




One of the 2015 research studies conducted at the institute to modify Bat caronavirus ...

http://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

What do you think toks ?????



Well, let's assume the virus is from bat. But I will have to go with "oldkid's" advice

*Focus on the present and what you can do for your future, not what is in the past that you cannot change.*

:thumbsup:
the past holds the most important key to a cure .
If they do not find the source .. a Future cure will take too long . Hopefully China now have time to focus on a cure and finding the source .


They have found the cure. Haven't they?
no ., they believe some existing medications (Not intended as antivirals ) may help reduce viral load .. but they need to conduct large clinical trials to assess safety and medication potential . Several countries are doing this at the moment but the process is also time and resource consuming .

Toks86freeman's photo
Sun 03/22/20 10:12 PM





One of the 2015 research studies conducted at the institute to modify Bat caronavirus ...

http://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

What do you think toks ?????



Well, let's assume the virus is from bat. But I will have to go with "oldkid's" advice

*Focus on the present and what you can do for your future, not what is in the past that you cannot change.*

:thumbsup:
the past holds the most important key to a cure .
If they do not find the source .. a Future cure will take too long . Hopefully China now have time to focus on a cure and finding the source .


They have found the cure. Haven't they?
no ., they believe some existing medications (Not intended as antivirals ) may help reduce viral load .. but they need to conduct large clinical trials to assess safety and medication potential . Several countries are doing this at the moment but the process is also time and resource consuming .


I think China has got the vaccine that enables them reduce the death cases. Italy should seek help from China.
What do you think about this?

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Sun 03/22/20 11:22 PM
It couldn't hurt.

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Sun 03/22/20 11:59 PM






One of the 2015 research studies conducted at the institute to modify Bat caronavirus ...

http://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

What do you think toks ?????



Well, let's assume the virus is from bat. But I will have to go with "oldkid's" advice

*Focus on the present and what you can do for your future, not what is in the past that you cannot change.*

:thumbsup:
the past holds the most important key to a cure .
If they do not find the source .. a Future cure will take too long . Hopefully China now have time to focus on a cure and finding the source .


They have found the cure. Haven't they?
no ., they believe some existing medications (Not intended as antivirals ) may help reduce viral load .. but they need to conduct large clinical trials to assess safety and medication potential . Several countries are doing this at the moment but the process is also time and resource consuming .


I think China has got the vaccine that enables them reduce the death cases. Italy should seek help from China.
What do you think about this?
if China have the vaccine it is a secret lol :wink:

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Mon 03/23/20 12:18 AM
Italy seems to be having hundreds of deaths every day, as a result of the virus. I don't know what is going on.

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Mon 03/23/20 02:49 AM
Edited by Toks86freeman on Mon 03/23/20 02:51 AM

Italy seems to be having hundreds of deaths every day, as a result of the virus. I don't know what is going on.


I saw the Nostradamus' prophecies been updated online yesterday. He wrote the below in the year 1551.

There will be a twin year (2020) from which will rise a queen (corona) who will come from the east (China) and who will spread a plaque (virus) in the darkness of night, on a country with 7 hills (Italy) and will transform the twilight of men into dusts (death), to destroy and ruin the world. It will be the end of the world economy as you know it.

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Mon 03/23/20 06:01 AM
Aust. and NZ have the same overlords !

I wonder how this virus's death statistics stack up against deaths of normal influenza cases, or road toll stats., or alcohol drug poisoning, or suicides.

Death rates seem quite small compared to the authoritative panic.

Surely highways and service stations and wheeled vehicles should be banned due to the high associated mortality rate.

I am suspicious.

And yes in Adelaide, SA, Aust. no toilet rolls, sanitizer, etc. many shelves empty. Dried and frozen foods very low. Plenty of fresh veges and fruit, but everyone is buying cans of garbage food.

1.5 metre distancing in queues, pubs shut, only takeaway restrants allowed open, some places refusing to take cash, and only swipe cards. B S.

Checkout staff are very vulnerable, constant customers and possibly dirty money.

I wonder how high rise dwellers with no kitchen are coping ?

My boss wonders if he can keep the factory going, because the economy is faltering and our customers won't be able to pay for their orders, and may cancel.
If I'm on a forced holiday without pay, I want all access to everything I need to enjoy it, not be locked down in a police state of panic, unable to do anything, so bored that I'm on here all day. I might get myself into trouble.

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Mon 03/23/20 06:08 AM
Someone else was talking about Nostradamus the other day on FB.
I don't read it, am not interested in it, it actually makes me smile.
Remember all the upheaval around the millennium change? Loads of books were printed based on Nostradamus predictions, and all were wrong.
I'm not saying the man was wrong, the way people interpret it is wrong. And some smarter people admitted to that fact back then. They haven't really a clue.
You better focus on other sources that are not doom-based because this pandemic has NOTHING whatsoever to do with that.
Basically it's a huge wake-up call, shaking things up, and an event that has the power to change societies around the world. It can change the way work life is construed, organisations, especially the ones in power who don't have our best interest at heart etc etc.
People are forced now to focus on other things than stress and work and stress and routine and more stress.
And it's a huge challenge for mankind to be able to step out of fear and into another vibe. Fear won't help, if nothing else it lowers your immune system's strength and increases your chances to get ill.

So yes, it might change world economy, but that's a good thing! World economy and the ones behind it was running us into the ground.
It's all based on the old and the old has to make way for the new.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/23/20 06:13 AM

Italy seems to be having hundreds of deaths every day, as a result of the virus. I don't know what is going on.

Yes, it's quite unreal, isn't it!? I would've thought Italy would have reached their peak, but as it is it's still going up. Almost 2 months now I believe since they had their first cases: Chinese tourists slaphead
In China it took 3 months before it went down. Let's hope this is true in general, then the situation in Italy should improve within a few weeks.
Fingers crossed!

In other countries it's still on the rise too, it's as if it suddenly got a boost or something. Spain, Germany are also getting really bad.
And numbers in my country seem to have accelerated too.

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Mon 03/23/20 06:16 AM
so much news out there coming from so many different sources I don't know what to believe.

hi

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Mon 03/23/20 06:20 AM

Someone else was talking about Nostradamus the other day on FB.
I don't read it, am not interested in it, it actually makes me smile.
Remember all the upheaval around the millennium change? Loads of books were printed based on Nostradamus predictions, and all were wrong.
I'm not saying the man was wrong, the way people interpret it is wrong. And some smarter people admitted to that fact back then. They haven't really a clue.
You better focus on other sources that are not doom-based because this pandemic has NOTHING whatsoever to do with that.
Basically it's a huge wake-up call, shaking things up, and an event that has the power to change societies around the world. It can change the way work life is construed, organisations, especially the ones in power who don't have our best interest at heart etc etc.
People are forced now to focus on other things than stress and work and stress and routine and more stress.
And it's a huge challenge for mankind to be able to step out of fear and into another vibe. Fear won't help, if nothing else it lowers your immune system's strength and increases your chances to get ill.

So yes, it might change world economy, but that's a good thing! World economy and the ones behind it was running us into the ground.
It's all based on the old and the old has to make way for the new.


According to several sources that I've read (like Ben Fulford) this lockdown etc has nothing to do with the relatively mild Coronavirus and everything to do with the end of a fifth generation war to reset the world economy and take us all in a new and better direction. According to him: "The age of wonders is coming".
I don't know if that's true or not but the reactions of Governments do seem to be completely out of proportion to the apparent risks.

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Mon 03/23/20 07:39 AM

Italy seems to be having hundreds of deaths every day, as a result of the virus. I don't know what is going on.
From what I've read, Italy has reached the point where they have more seriously sick people than they have the medical facilities to help them. That means some people do not get the treatment they need to survive and they die. I believe Russia is going to provide portable medical facilities and staffing to get Italy through the virus peak. Our federal government is doing the same thing for the states with the highest number of cases, those being New York, California, and Washington.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/23/20 09:40 AM


Someone else was talking about Nostradamus the other day on FB.
I don't read it, am not interested in it, it actually makes me smile.
Remember all the upheaval around the millennium change? Loads of books were printed based on Nostradamus predictions, and all were wrong.
I'm not saying the man was wrong, the way people interpret it is wrong. And some smarter people admitted to that fact back then. They haven't really a clue.
You better focus on other sources that are not doom-based because this pandemic has NOTHING whatsoever to do with that.
Basically it's a huge wake-up call, shaking things up, and an event that has the power to change societies around the world. It can change the way work life is construed, organisations, especially the ones in power who don't have our best interest at heart etc etc.
People are forced now to focus on other things than stress and work and stress and routine and more stress.
And it's a huge challenge for mankind to be able to step out of fear and into another vibe. Fear won't help, if nothing else it lowers your immune system's strength and increases your chances to get ill.

So yes, it might change world economy, but that's a good thing! World economy and the ones behind it was running us into the ground.
It's all based on the old and the old has to make way for the new.


According to several sources that I've read (like Ben Fulford) this lockdown etc has nothing to do with the relatively mild Coronavirus and everything to do with the end of a fifth generation war to reset the world economy and take us all in a new and better direction. According to him: "The age of wonders is coming".
I don't know if that's true or not but the reactions of Governments do seem to be completely out of proportion to the apparent risks.

Yes, that. We're on our path to the Age of Aquarius, which is the end of the Age of Pisces (suppression, power, money, status, aggression etc).
Had this been a short-lived thing its impact wouldn't have been sufficient enough. Not enough impact to bring about change. That can only be achieved by a longer on-going event. Since the old structure didn't want to budge, or it went to slow, it's now just forced, rammed down their throat.

I personally think Brexit is also part of this change. To me that was also part of the beginning of this new Age :)
And I wonder if this current event will soften the blow for your economy as now the entire world's economy is burdened.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/23/20 09:43 AM


Italy seems to be having hundreds of deaths every day, as a result of the virus. I don't know what is going on.
From what I've read, Italy has reached the point where they have more seriously sick people than they have the medical facilities to help them. That means some people do not get the treatment they need to survive and they die. I believe Russia is going to provide portable medical facilities and staffing to get Italy through the virus peak. Our federal government is doing the same thing for the states with the highest number of cases, those being New York, California, and Washington.

Yeah, it was getting dire last week or earlier.
It must be scary for people, there not being proficient healthcare anymore...

Over here the dark red area has gotten larger and we have a new one as well now.
It is worst in one province in the south, while a city like The Hague has few cases, less than 10?
Amsterdam doesn't have many either. Really odd.
The island above mine, which is only some 16kms away, is getting worse, which I find concerning...

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Mon 03/23/20 10:15 AM
Today's update.

204 Positive Veteran Cases

1 Ann Arbor – VA inpatient
1 Arizona – VA inpatient
17 Atlanta – 15 home quarantine, 2 VA inpatient
1 Bay Pines – home quarantine
1 Birmingham – VA inpatient
8 Bronx – 7 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient
2 Chicago – 1 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient
4 Cincinnati – 4 home quarantine
3 Cleveland – 2 VA Inpatient, 1 home quarantine
1 Columbia (MO) – VA Inpatient
3 Columbia (SC) – 2 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient
1 Dayton – VA Inpatient
5 Denver – 3 home quarantine, 2 VA inpatient
1 Detroit – home quarantine
2 Fayetteville (NC) – home quarantine
1 Fresno – home quarantine
1 Hines – home quarantine
6 Hudson Valley – 4 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient, 1 CLC
2 Kansas City – 2 home quarantine
1 Lebanon – home quarantine
2 Long Beach – VA Inpatient, home quarantine
1 Madison – home quarantine
1 Manchester – home quarantine
1 Miami – VA Inpatient
4 Milwaukee – 3 VA Inpatient, 1 home quarantine
2 Minneapolis – 1 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient
1 Montana HCS – home quarantine
1 Mountain Home – home quarantine
2 New Jersey – 2 home quarantine
1 New Mexico – home quarantine
10 New York Harbor – 5 home quarantine, 5 VA inpatient
65 NOLA – 20 home quarantine, 44 VA inpatient, 1 pending
1 Northport – home quarantine
3 Orlando – 3 home quarantine
2 Palo Alto – VA Inpatient, home quarantine
2 Portland – 2 VA Inpatient
9 Puget Sound – 5 home quarantine, 4 VA Inpatient
3 San Diego – 3 home quarantine
7 San Juan – 6 home quarantine, 1 VA inpatient
3 Sioux Falls – 2 home quarantine, 1 community hospital
1 Southern Nevada HCA – VA inpatient
1 Spokane – community hospital
1 St. Louis – home quarantine
2 Togus – 2 home quarantine
1 Tomah – home quarantine
8 Washington (DC) – 5 home quarantine, 3 VA inpatient
1 West Haven – home quarantine
1 West Palm Beach – home quarantine
1 White River Junction – home quarantine
1 Wichita – home quarantine

Deaths: 2 (up 0 from yesterday)

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Mon 03/23/20 11:29 AM



Someone else was talking about Nostradamus the other day on FB.
I don't read it, am not interested in it, it actually makes me smile.
Remember all the upheaval around the millennium change? Loads of books were printed based on Nostradamus predictions, and all were wrong.
I'm not saying the man was wrong, the way people interpret it is wrong. And some smarter people admitted to that fact back then. They haven't really a clue.
You better focus on other sources that are not doom-based because this pandemic has NOTHING whatsoever to do with that.
Basically it's a huge wake-up call, shaking things up, and an event that has the power to change societies around the world. It can change the way work life is construed, organisations, especially the ones in power who don't have our best interest at heart etc etc.
People are forced now to focus on other things than stress and work and stress and routine and more stress.
And it's a huge challenge for mankind to be able to step out of fear and into another vibe. Fear won't help, if nothing else it lowers your immune system's strength and increases your chances to get ill.

So yes, it might change world economy, but that's a good thing! World economy and the ones behind it was running us into the ground.
It's all based on the old and the old has to make way for the new.


According to several sources that I've read (like Ben Fulford) this lockdown etc has nothing to do with the relatively mild Coronavirus and everything to do with the end of a fifth generation war to reset the world economy and take us all in a new and better direction. According to him: "The age of wonders is coming".
I don't know if that's true or not but the reactions of Governments do seem to be completely out of proportion to the apparent risks.

Yes, that. We're on our path to the Age of Aquarius, which is the end of the Age of Pisces (suppression, power, money, status, aggression etc).
Had this been a short-lived thing its impact wouldn't have been sufficient enough. Not enough impact to bring about change. That can only be achieved by a longer on-going event. Since the old structure didn't want to budge, or it went to slow, it's now just forced, rammed down their throat.

I personally think Brexit is also part of this change. To me that was also part of the beginning of this new Age :)
And I wonder if this current event will soften the blow for your economy as now the entire world's economy is burdened.


I hope that it was partly that, reasserting our independence from both the EU and the USA and preparing for this or something like it. We did apparently make at least three months supply of everything in anticipation of Brexit, so we are in a better position to get through whatever this is than most.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/23/20 12:26 PM



According to several sources that I've read (like Ben Fulford) this lockdown etc has nothing to do with the relatively mild Coronavirus and everything to do with the end of a fifth generation war to reset the world economy and take us all in a new and better direction. According to him: "The age of wonders is coming".
I don't know if that's true or not but the reactions of Governments do seem to be completely out of proportion to the apparent risks.

Yes, that. We're on our path to the Age of Aquarius, which is the end of the Age of Pisces (suppression, power, money, status, aggression etc).
Had this been a short-lived thing its impact wouldn't have been sufficient enough. Not enough impact to bring about change. That can only be achieved by a longer on-going event. Since the old structure didn't want to budge, or it went to slow, it's now just forced, rammed down their throat.

I personally think Brexit is also part of this change. To me that was also part of the beginning of this new Age :)
And I wonder if this current event will soften the blow for your economy as now the entire world's economy is burdened.


I hope that it was partly that, reasserting our independence from both the EU and the USA and preparing for this or something like it. We did apparently make at least three months supply of everything in anticipation of Brexit, so we are in a better position to get through whatever this is than most.

Yes, a good thing! Also getting away from EU and USA. That's what the rest of Europe needs as well, and the rest of the world too.
All this merging b*ll*cks and centralised power (EU & US) that's not from our own countries is wrong and detrimental to everything we had built up over the years.

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Mon 03/23/20 12:47 PM




According to several sources that I've read (like Ben Fulford) this lockdown etc has nothing to do with the relatively mild Coronavirus and everything to do with the end of a fifth generation war to reset the world economy and take us all in a new and better direction. According to him: "The age of wonders is coming".
I don't know if that's true or not but the reactions of Governments do seem to be completely out of proportion to the apparent risks.

Yes, that. We're on our path to the Age of Aquarius, which is the end of the Age of Pisces (suppression, power, money, status, aggression etc).
Had this been a short-lived thing its impact wouldn't have been sufficient enough. Not enough impact to bring about change. That can only be achieved by a longer on-going event. Since the old structure didn't want to budge, or it went to slow, it's now just forced, rammed down their throat.

I personally think Brexit is also part of this change. To me that was also part of the beginning of this new Age :)
And I wonder if this current event will soften the blow for your economy as now the entire world's economy is burdened.


I hope that it was partly that, reasserting our independence from both the EU and the USA and preparing for this or something like it. We did apparently make at least three months supply of everything in anticipation of Brexit, so we are in a better position to get through whatever this is than most.

Yes, a good thing! Also getting away from EU and USA. That's what the rest of Europe needs as well, and the rest of the world too.
All this merging b*ll*cks and centralised power (EU & US) that's not from our own countries is wrong and detrimental to everything we had built up over the years.



I can only agree :slight_smile:.

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Mon 03/23/20 04:10 PM
So, further restrictions announced. All none essential shops to close until further notice. No gatherings of more than two people, unless family or the same household. Limited reasons for going outside, gathering essential supplies or medicine and only then as infrequently as possible. Limited or no social interaction unless absolutely necessary apart from funerals.

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