Duh, they both made great speeches, hello.

Hitler made great speeches too and almost took over all of europe in 4 years. The way Obama is going, he's gonna bury this country in debt and ruin healthcare even more in less than 4 years.

Reality tv just sucks, until there's an all suicide channel, I will never watch reality shows.

Nothing in the milk, its just a psychological thing, from when you were breast fed as a child. Sub-conscious reaction, nothing else.

Taking a list for volunteers?

I find working odd hours and irregular sleep schedules really helps, but you prolly don't work the wacky hours I do, so it is of no use to you. But I've heard warm milk, valeria root, and/or shots of tequila work wonders!

You forgot the legislative branch, the judicial branch and the executive branch.

What alternative ideas? Everything he's done has been done before. Tax instead of balance, say one thing and do another. For a guy promoting change, he's done zero change. Since coming in he's tripled the deficit, made the economy worse, and now wants to destroy health care. Meh, some people will believe anything.

Obama will probably hide the fact that its a huge tax on the poor by calling it a fee or a surcharge. Its good to know that Obama has gotten very little done this year and his approval ratings are sliding more and more. At least the people that voted him in realize he promised everything and has given very little, and lied about quite a bit.

I'll one up ya, lets get Mexican health care!

" * No Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions

Mo discrimination, but they'd be charged out the a$$, just like now.

* No Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays

Exorbitant out of pocket for who? Someone making minimum wage or someone making 200K a year?

Caps on anything is a bad idea. Caps do absolutely nothing for healthy people and everything for sick people. So the reward for being healthy should be lower premiums. Caps above everything else in this plan will destroy public insurance and put the gov't in charge of healthcare solely, which IS something to be scared about.

* No Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care

Meh, most plans cover this now.

* No Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill

No dropping of coverage clauses will be a laugh riot.

* No Gender Discrimination

Gender wars! Yea, discriminating by gender is so 1950s.

* Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.

Hmmm, if men could ever have babies, this would be amusing.

* No Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage

So what's the incentive to insure someone with a serious illness that can live 5-10-15-20 years with extensive medical care?

* Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

Why not just make it 45, that's still a young adult, if they live to 122?

* Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.

Ok guarantee renewal, say you get seriously ill, and you plan comes up for renewal and you were paying say 250 a month and your plan renews at 2500 a month. Its the same as refusing insurance, which is against one of the other points.



All of this leads to health care being run into the ground, because under these ideas, no insurance company will survive. Unless they are completely subsidized by the government, which IS what gov't wants, and rational, sane people do NOT want. What Obama wants and he gets are gonna be different, probably drastically. But then again, Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making under 250K a year, but he's already raised taxes on cigarettes and is proposing raising taxes on soda and beer. Promising one thing and doing another, sounds like a career politician, not someone looking for change.

Promising a blue sky and getting a blue sky are mutually exclusive. He can't fund his plan, so its pointless spouting whats so good about it.

Buddy of mine got the last set of "The Raven" tattooed on his back, with ravens tattooed around it, it was kinda cool.

No dream here right now, but about the teeth thing, ouch!

Win?

True, but it was so kick a$$ to be in inside and seeing what all the engineers did. It was a fricking marvel to behold.

And a side note, about working for a company that provides health insurance. McDonalds offers decent health plans, most companies offer some sort of plan. The problem is, most people would rather have extra money in their paychecks that pay for healthcare. I got a job specifically for the benefits, and most of the year I work 50-60 weeks between 2 jobs. If somebody wants health insurance, all they have to do is find it, its not like a company hides it benefits packages.