It really doesn't help the battle for freedom and liberty, to post lies, fantasies, myths, and other false or misleading things about the problems.

And conflating and confusing issues as is happening here, makes it easier, not harder, for the bad guys to win.

Interesting note: The old Saturn Five was the most reliable heavy lift rocket ever built. They are recreating the F-1 engines without all the hand welding. Heaven forbid we should reuse a design that works well.

Conrad, your picture shows a mature man, I am yet to see much/any maturity from your posts.

If you had any substance to your posts, then I would be able to provide a better response.

Invictus I do not know of Sykes-Picot, I will look for information now.

I stick to my opinions of The American government (since at least Bush snr), and my motives of speaking out here is to encourage you to ask yourself if your government is duping you. I am worried for the American people, your sons and brothers who are the troops are bearing the brunt of these lies, and it is the erosion of your civil liberties that you should focus on, not the Brits blame, not the Islamics, Iraquis, etc, etc... Please hold on to your arms and defend your constitution. Only a month ago I believed you lot with your guns were mental. I am now convinced you will need them. This erosion of your civil liberties will result in the legal side-stepping or eradication of the 2nd amendment. (For a reason.)

seems we have caught us another Troofer!

"I love how europeans conveniently forget that it was you that divided the middle east for your empires after world war 1"

Actually, It is false to claim I forget. I know the UK government handed land to Israel after ww2. I do see that as creating conflict in the region.

"You are the idiots that created these fake monarchies and supported their totalitarian regimes."

I presume that even though you are attempting to insult my person, or the UK people, you do know the difference between my government and past governments and myself and my countrymen as individuals. I can assure you that if I criticize Bush and his choices I simultaneously imply that the American people do not automatically agree with those choices and actions.

"You are responsible for what has happened and what is happening."

Am I responsible for the crusades? Is my current government? Did we even have a government then? How far back in time do we go looking for fault? Do you take responsibility for your rulers actions and decisions? Would you rise up and encourage others to join you in protest against your rulers if they waged false war, hurt and/or killed innocent civilians, or otherwise acted with no honour or integrity?
Seriously, engage your brain before spouting such divisive rubbish. I hope you realise the pathetic nature of your statement.

"You created this critical mass with Sykes-Picot and try all you want to blame someone else, but that song and dance isn't going to work."

I presume you are deflecting blame away from your own government by making this statement. All my senses detect massive hypocrisy, let me use your words against you and see if you notice the hypocrisy for yourself:
Firstly you say,
"You are responsible for what has happened and what is happening."
Next you say,
"You created this critical mass with..."
Then you say,
"try all you want to blame someone else"
You finish with,
"that song and dance isn't going to work."

Should your "song and dance" work with me, or any free thinker reading this? Are you exempt from the accusations you make against me?

I didnt mean for my last post to directly upset you, but I am firmly of the opinion that America (with the UK in tow) is doing terrible things in the middle east and it is not telling the American people the full story. The UK is doing exactly that to a similar extent with its people too. You might tell me 9/11 was osama, the boston bombers were islamic children, that each US school shooting was real, or even that the 7/7 in UK was islamic bombers, but until you spend some decent time researching what independent reporters and analysts say regarding FACTS and EVIDENCE (IE: dont blindly believe the "official" story), then I reject all suggestion that my words would be unkind to families of victims. (I am not suggesting every school shooting is fake or a setup, but some certainly seem to be fake, and if one shooting is one too many, then one fake shooting is one too many also! In one case the families are victims, in the other case the entire American population is the victims!)

Sure, I think it was reported USA hit an Afghani hospital. Didnt USA pull out of Afghan years ago? No boots on the ground in Syria? Lets see how long that lasts. I think putin is doing the right thing by making it very difficult to put boots on the ground. YOU DONT NEED TO BE THERE! Get over the View of being word police, it will cause your country more harm than good.

It is good to live in the moment, but lets not forget how these things start. For me it is America's surge to create conflict in the middle east, AND at home. I bet you guys hate Islamics now, I bet there is suspicion on the streets and in your homes. How often is terrorism on the lips of the American people? Please dont forget the past, it shapes your future. Bush and his actions are certainly relevant.

In the present as I experience it I saw on our UK news that twice Obama has recently declared martial law. How do you feel about that? How will you view your freedom and what will you do if there is martial law for a whole month, what about six months? What about six years?

conrad usa n israel only countries that bombs hospitals n schools. Disgusting as it is.

Yep...on 4chan...even had other 'tards telling him how to make it as worse as possible...

"" Federal authorities are looking into a suspicious
thread on the anonymous message board
4chan that appears to include someone with
similar intentions to today's unnamed shooter
who killed at least 10 people in
Oregon, according to The New York Times . The
thread, archived here , shows an anonymous
user on 4chan board /r9k/ advising others,
"Don’t go to school tomorrow if you are in the
northwest," late in the day on September 30th.
The identity of the shooter who attacked
students this morning at Umpqua Community
College in Roseberg, Oregon, remains
unknown, though it is confirmed police shot
and killed the 20-year-old man.
It is not yet clear whether the anonymous
4chan user and the shooter are the same
person. 4chan has become well-known as a
haven for some of the worst behavior on the
internet. In fact, many users egged on the
original poster and some even gave him tips on
how to carry out a massacre. Following news
of the shooting, the thread takes a twisted turn
as participants realize the gravity of a potential
link between the group conversation and the
killings. Nonetheless, the nature of the site
makes quick verification near impossible.""
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/1/9437577/4chan-federal-investigation-oregon-college-shooting

Same site that a year or so ago, a poster posted a thread about a woman he strangled...with pics of her dead body....poster was subsequently arrested and charged with the murder.

They said it happened in the morning. But 6-8 hours later, I seen article after article after article, saying "SEVEN to FIFTEEN dead, & 20 injurred (that was consistent),
The I read a CNN article that says ' the sheriff says the shooter is dead", but also says, " a spokesperson for the State Police say the shooter is in custody ".

So I stopped paying attention.

*Oh look.. a squirrel.*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_oDMXi-Qeg