Topic: Divorce papers:o)
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Mon 11/17/14 02:28 PM


@Chrystalfairy

Quote**** knows why that took so long. All it takes is a judge to say "Ok", you don't even have to be there?:Quote

It's probation time if parties have a temporary disagreement that end up bad. It's the same in Czech, Poland, Italy, Austria you name it. Except in Sweden, it doesn't take long time as all is decided by state law, 50% properties, 50% children= split custody, if not possible with split custody, the person who can't/isn't willing has to pay according to his/hers income. Yet again, according to state law. This is valid also for people living together without being married.

In Austria, a man has to pay her 40% of brut income until she retires. No matter if she start to live with another man. As taxes in Austria is one of the highest in Europe, a man is basically bankrupt when divorced.

This was a couple of years ago but I don't think it has changed much….

Peter



What are you trying to say?

That you do not want to go through the paperwork because you don't your want ex-wife to get the quoted percent of your income, or you don't want to face bankruptcy or...what?

Why did you bring out these laws? What do they have to do with your reasons for unfinished divorce procedure?

If those are your reasons for still being separated, why would anyone believe your word that you are planning to divorce in future?


Relax, you're in combat mode. This was just peculiar info. Besides I've said that I paid her half of my coin collection and pay her monthly. You're going off assuming fictions again:o)

Peter

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Mon 11/17/14 02:32 PM
Peter, you are as good at evading as I am. ha.

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Mon 11/17/14 02:47 PM
Edited by peterbrorsson on Mon 11/17/14 02:54 PM


cheese burgers.




and "
tell me.. if you were reading a book.. would you start another book beFORE finishing the first? or watch a movie or TV show only 3/4 of the way through then change the channel or switch the DVD? it's similar in principal when you think about it for a moment.. the logic is.. finish what you've started THEN move on with the next project.. be it book.. movie.. or relationship!"





lol...my answer is yes to all the above...!!

So I don't have any advice to give...and I don't think I did anyways. I don't think there is a right or wrong way of doing things. However more often then not relationships obey to maths.

If you are in love with someone that needs to see your divorce papers...you better get them unless she accepts not to have them and understands your point of view.

And considering society and the majority of point of views...it's probably up to you to get the divorce. Besides you said you hoped for it...so what is standing in the way ?

It's as simple as that...




Yes, this is clear to me.
So what's standing in the way? I wrote this before all the popcorn came into the picture, damn you posting it, I like popcorn and it's time to go to sleep:o)

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Attorney Poland=read mobster style+I'm a foreigner=rip-a-new-a-hole-in-his-wallet
Anyway, Poland is the most radical Catholic country in Europe and my wife is deeply religious. I'm working on it!
If I would be really bad, I have the means to bribe a judge or who ever come running when winking some Euro's in the air. However, I want to fix this in a good way, I have two children's that are adorable and don't want to ruin our relationship(That is my relation to children for you that don't understand) by going berserk with lawyers and judges.

But thanks for the advice Goofball:o)Quote


Never mind of the cost, I will have to resort to pay attorneys if we cannot agree ourself.

Peter

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Mon 11/17/14 02:47 PM

Peter, you are as good at evading as I am. ha.


Ok? Ha!?

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Mon 11/17/14 03:09 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 04:00 PM
Women, who are also mothers, manage get divorce in Saudi Arabia, whose laws are more than unfavorable in all cases other than men filling for divorce, even if men are drug addicts or have AIDS which makes it a bit easier for them. It is a very difficult and expensive process, yet number of divorces in that country is growing and shows no tendency of slowing down.

You wrote:"Attorney Poland=read mobster style+I'm a foreigner=rip-a-new-a-hole-in-his-wallet
Anyway, Poland is the most radical Catholic country in Europe and my wife is deeply religious. I'm working on it!
If I would be really bad, I have the means to bribe a judge or who ever come running when winking some Euro's in the air. However, I want to fix this in a good way, I have two children's that are adorable and don't want to ruin our relationship(That is my relation to children for you that don't understand) by going berserk with lawyers and judges."


I didn't realize that married men with children have to face such a hardship in Poland, which makes their divorce even harder than divorce process women face in, for example, such a religious country as Saudi Arabia.

I have no idea how old your children are, but if you and your wife are the biological parents and you were married for seven years until the separation in 2010, than they are under the age of 11 now. Perhaps you are just waiting for them to turn 18 to avoid expensive divorce. Who knows... But again, that's your life, so it's none of my concern, although you brought it up in this discussion.

However, the way you are introducing new arguments and evading all the time proves intelligence.

It would be interesting to hear your opinion.

Why do YOU think women do not want to do anything with you because you are still married? Why don't they just trust you that you will be divorced?

To be honest with you I don't expect an answer, but it would come as a nice surprise.

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Mon 11/17/14 03:19 PM
this is all because some woman who asked you.. to show he!r your divorce papers... correct....

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Mon 11/17/14 03:32 PM

this is all because some woman who asked you.. to show he!r your divorce papers... correct....



yup.. slaphead


laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 11/17/14 03:39 PM



thank you Peter..I have many curiosities as well and rarely pass up an opportunity to have a good, healthy discussion/debate! I am not one to pass judgement or force my morality on others, however if cornered, I will defend my values pitchfork simply put, my opinion is how I'd feel IF I were in that situation.. I'm more a "live & let live" type..:wink: but I DO enjoy playing "devil's advocate" though bigsmile


Haha, so I'm the devil now! Ok, I'm not an angel exactly. Ah heck, toss that in the bin as I'm an atheist also. But lets not start that discussion here. I feel the presence of God Fearing Americans;o)

Peter

noooooooooooooo noway
slaphead in any healthy debate.. both sides need to be clarified is all.. thus I enjoy being a devils advocate.. never called YOU a devil.. hmmm.. selective reading perhaps? :wink:pitchfork

laughlaugh no worries here.. I'm not a God Fearing American :wink:laugh

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Mon 11/17/14 03:40 PM


this is all because some woman who asked you.. to show he!r your divorce papers... correct....



yup.. slaphead


laugh laugh laugh
... thanks I wasn't really sure..lol..... all this because some lady... wants to see your return slip....lol... her receipt proof of purchase...laugh rofl slaphead

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Mon 11/17/14 03:52 PM
I do not know you Peter. You might be a good man. Perhaps you are a great dad who loves his kids and doesn't want to get the divorce because of fear that your wife, who cheated you and used kids to blackmail you, will take everything you have and prevent you from seeing them or convince them you were just SOB. That's a possibility too. If that's the case, it doesn't take too much imagination to see the drama in a life of a women who would accept to have a relationship with you while you delay the divorce in order not to be ripped off by your ex and dad who become a stranger to his kids.
In conclusion; whatever you real reasons for leaving unfinished business are, some women will not get into relationships with separated men. I think Minglers already provided explanations. It's up to you to make your own conclusions and decisions. The best of luck in future!

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Mon 11/17/14 04:15 PM




thank you Peter..I have many curiosities as well and rarely pass up an opportunity to have a good, healthy discussion/debate! I am not one to pass judgement or force my morality on others, however if cornered, I will defend my values pitchfork simply put, my opinion is how I'd feel IF I were in that situation.. I'm more a "live & let live" type..:wink: but I DO enjoy playing "devil's advocate" though bigsmile


Haha, so I'm the devil now! Ok, I'm not an angel exactly. Ah heck, toss that in the bin as I'm an atheist also. But lets not start that discussion here. I feel the presence of God Fearing Americans;o)

Peter

noooooooooooooo noway
slaphead in any healthy debate.. both sides need to be clarified is all.. thus I enjoy being a devils advocate.. never called YOU a devil.. hmmm.. selective reading perhaps? :wink:pitchfork

laughlaugh no worries here.. I'm not a God Fearing American :wink:laugh



No worries, I got the drift. Just pulling your leg:wink:

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Mon 11/17/14 04:25 PM
I am going to repeat what I said on page 1 of this thread.

There is nothing wrong with a single woman walking away from a man who is still married.

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Mon 11/17/14 04:38 PM

I do not know you Peter. You might be a good man. Perhaps you are a great dad who loves his kids and doesn't want to get the divorce because of fear that your wife, who cheated you and used kids to blackmail you, will take everything you have and prevent you from seeing them or convince them you were just SOB. That's a possibility too. If that's the case, it doesn't take too much imagination to see the drama in a life of a women who would accept to have a relationship with you while you delay the divorce in order not to be ripped off by your ex and dad who become a stranger to his kids.
In conclusion; whatever you real reasons for leaving unfinished business are, some women will not get into relationships with separated men. I think Minglers already provided explanations. It's up to you to make your own conclusions and decisions. The best of luck in future!



No, my wife did not cheat me. Yet another thing assumed or misunderstood. I don't care, it's gone too far to sort this up now. Read Zero_Effected's first post, I think quite the same. Add the fact, that many women have been cheated on, or have waited for married men to divorce to no avail. A divorce paper COULD be a false sense of security, that's my point. I wrote also "most" women in my first post, not all!

Btw, the Koran allows divorce if husband neglects the wife, that's a fact. Read it, it's a quite interesting book;o) If not the muslim church had misinterpret it….Catholic church is still hesitant with divorce…..
My reason why not push thru with divorce is written in my posts.
Peter

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Mon 11/17/14 04:41 PM

I am going to repeat what I said on page 1 of this thread.

There is nothing wrong with a single woman walking away from a man who is still married.



I have not claimed that, have I?

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Mon 11/17/14 04:42 PM

this is all because some woman who asked you.. to show he!r your divorce papers... correct....


That's one way to see itlaugh It has though confirmed some things about people:wink:

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Mon 11/17/14 04:44 PM

I am going to repeat what I said on page 1 of this thread.

There is nothing wrong with a single woman walking away from a man who is still married.



Agreed!!!That's what I would do.

If it is over than get on with it and make it officially over. I'll believe it when I see it. Words are just words.

The way you put it, your question might also be rephrased as: "Why wouldn't you be with me while I am still married? Don't you see how many people cheat their spouses with no regrets? Why wouldn't do you the same if you care for me?" Because, it is cheating if you are still married.
And why should she be played against a future ex-wife? That sounds like a manipulation of both wife and the women you asked that question. You think you are THAT GOOD? LOL

BTW, anyone who throws away the money that way doesn't leave an impression of a trustworthy person. Such an attitude doesn't make a good impression at all. Se, here is your free answer without any further clarifications.

P.S.
Even eight pages later I am still not convinced that he doesn't think he is THAT GOOD, but this thread lost its appeal after I run out of popcorn, so...

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Mon 11/17/14 04:45 PM
OMG! rofl whoa

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Mon 11/17/14 04:46 PM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Mon 11/17/14 04:55 PM
A divorce paper COULD be a false sense of security, that's my point. I wrote also "most" women in my first post, not all!

Obstinant defiant. Ask a judge what he thinks dating women think about married men dating. laugh

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Mon 11/17/14 04:50 PM


I am going to repeat what I said on page 1 of this thread.

There is nothing wrong with a single woman walking away from a man who is still married.



I have not claimed that, have I?


You have done so indirectly. Otherwise, what reason would you have for starting this discussion thread?

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Mon 11/17/14 04:53 PM
9 pages in, and the squirrel is still chasing his tail.
:laughing: