You can't trust a man.

As if a woman has NEVER been untrustworthy.

My ex wouldn't even pay the fee for divorce papers when his wife didn't want anything at all from him.
Marriage is one thing I can live without. If I ever get married it will be much later in life. You can't trust a man. Look at the way this man views his wife, it's like that in the relationships I've had with men, they don't want long term anything and when they want it to be over you are nothing to them...for this man his wife's existance is not even worth noting and he just can't comprehend why other women don't find that attarctive. What a blank!

Just a suggestion: If you really want a Divorce, Check your State Laws, It Can happen!! If your spouse just wants to hold on like they have ownership papers on you (Marriage License) You and a Judge can end it yourselves! I've done it!! Anyone that allows it is also just as Guilty for one reason or another in staying in an unwanted Marriage for whatever the reason! Get your unfinished business done and then move on in life!! Just moving on solves nothing and involves an innocent person!! And again its still called (Adultery,Cheating!!) Then Move On in Life!! My X didn't sign the Divorce Papers" Me and a Judge did!!" Surprised the Hell out of Her!!

Yup. I also did this with 1st ex. He filed the papers he received in the trash can. Got the divorce without him. Here, the lawyer just take out a newspaper ad in the respondents local town, saying "Notice of Divorce". That simple. No signature or consent required. No fault.

Does the ex wife get her youth back once she gets divorced? Women lose more than men in divorce, the least a man can do is wait for the divorce to finalize before they start looking for a new woman. It's like you're trading in an old car for a new one.

Does the ex wife get her youth back once she gets divorced? Women lose more than men in divorce, the least a man can do is wait for the divorce to finalize before they start looking for a new woman. It's like you're trading in an old car for a new one.

Hmm, I may be guilty of the same shallow conclusions you have about me. But what the heck! It seems when reading between your lines, that your relationship is not over yet, despite you are divorced?

I have never believed that wading in self pity makes any good for one self. My feelings are over since long time, do I have a debt to pay for someone I have lived with?

Further more, no I don't take marriage seriously. It's an outdated institution made by the church and the state long time ago. Over the years it has been proven that it means bull**** in the end, as someone eloquently expressed before. I have never cheated in my relationships but someone cheated me. That was not a man I was living together with
Holy Horror! Women are evil! NOT!!!

Hmm, I may be guilty of the same shallow conclusions you have about me. But what the heck! It seems when reading between your lines, that your relationship is not over yet, despite you are divorced?

I have never believed that wading in self pity makes any good for one self. My feelings are over since long time, do I have a debt to pay for someone I have lived with?

Further more, no I don't take marriage seriously. It's an outdated institution made by the church and the state long time ago. Over the years it has been proven that it means bull**** in the end, as someone eloquently expressed before. I have never cheated in my relationships but someone cheated me. That was not a man I was living together with
Holy Horror! Women are evil! NOT!!!

I have never been married and that's because men are not worth marrying.

You never stop loving anyone. Love doesn't end because you take care of "unfinished legalities". Pay the woman. Get done with it. That love changes and eventually forgiveness happens....someday....stop punishing her.

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I have this notion that people in your country are very stubborn.

Personally I find most of the institutions and traditions outdated. What does a signature on any paper mean, including a marriage certificate?
Without honest intentions to follow the words by actions that are expected it means nothing. I see signing that certificate just as symbolic formality. One doesn't need bells and whistles to announce the whole world love and commitment.
If you ask me it as a waste of time and money. Just a theater play for the crowd. That's how I see it, but it doesn't mean that I disrespect those who care for the tradition.
It was an honour to get an invitation to my friend's wedding, despite the fact both he and his wife knew how I felt about the ceremony. I accepted it and behaved accordingly, because I wanted to be there if it meant so much to them. That's what friends are for.

On the other hand, however one feels about a marriage or common law relationship it still has legal implications and consequences that should be taken into consideration. Especially when kids are involved.
However, even in relationships without children one should keep in mind some important laws, especially the ones referring to taxes and inheritance that take into account the marital status and any property, asset or source(s) of income acquired while the couple was not separated.
Some people hope they will let those issues resolve themselves by simply claiming it doesn't matter to them since they separated from their partner. Their next married or common law partner might still get a blast from the past type of letter from an ex's lawyer who wants to discuss few issues with both partners since they share some financial concerns as a couple.
So simply walking away from the past doesn't mean anything is over. The past never goes away until it comes back to remind us on our mistakes.
Nothing is over until it's completely over. So, as one friend of mind has put it:" it's better to get over with the past than to forward unresolved problems to the future life and future wife."

I might be less likely to believe them on here ... about separation & getting a divorce ... but if say a meet was to happen and they live in two separate dwellings and either or had a S/O already moved in ... then I would say their telling the truth & waiting on the final papers ... I am not sure if I would ask to see the court papers ... guess I would have to really like someone a lot first

I might be less likely to believe them on here ... about separation & getting a divorce ... but if say a meet was to happen and they live in two separate dwellings and either or had a S/O already moved in ... then I would say their telling the truth & waiting on the final papers ... I am not sure if I would ask to see the court papers ... guess I would have to really like someone a lot first

That post hit the mark!! Can't agree much more! If I meet someone worth of getting married again, I will do it despite my opinions of the matter because it would be a small price to pay. For all of you that do not understand or do not want to understand, the price to pay is my acceptance of opinion/belief of the better half!!

Btw, I was living on Martha street in Burlington for 1.5 year, loved the area and winery's around Lake Ontario!!

Peter