Topic: Divorce papers:o)
Maxisu's photo
Sun 11/16/14 03:19 AM





Here in the US, it is public information, you don't even have to ask them for the papers. Find the county of marriage and go to the court house. Online public circuit court access is sooooo much easier though.



Well.....I wonder how some (non mormons) manage to marry 2 times and that in the US...

I would have thought something impossible to do...




Are they legally recognized wives by the same man in marriages in Utah? by bigamists? Or just in ceremony without the legal papers?


Not bigamists...and both women are trying to divorce and they can't...because the guy is changing address and they can't serve him.

The first and "real" wife is now in Illinois but she got married in California....and apparently she is trying to divorce since a while. The other one is European and got married in Nevada...and it is very legal...apparently

She can not ask for the divorce because she isn't a US citizen...the only thing she can do is try to get an annulment...but she still needs to live/ get an address in the US...sorry not anywhere..in Nevada.







:thumbsup: Just a suggestion: If you really want a Divorce, Check your State Laws, It Can happen!! If your spouse just wants to hold on like they have ownership papers on you (Marriage License) You and a Judge can end it yourselves! I've done it!! Anyone that allows it is also just as Guilty for one reason or another in staying in an unwanted Marriage for whatever the reason! Get your unfinished business done and then move on in life!! Just moving on solves nothing and involves an innocent person!! And again its still called (Adultery,Cheating!!) :thumbsup: Then Move On in Life!!drinks My X didn't sign the Divorce Papers" Me and a Judge did!!" Surprised the Hell out of Her!!:angel: tongue2


Yup. I also did this with 1st ex. He filed the papers he received in the trash can. Got the divorce without him. Here, the lawyer just take out a newspaper ad in the respondents local town, saying "Notice of Divorce". That simple. No signature or consent required. No fault.
We were married 8 years- separated 1- sold property (acquired) while married - split profit 1/2 equally -filed non-contested divorce- 3 times to court "Judge signs!! papers" simple procedure!! Nothing to fight over--- so its over!! No Fault Divorce, Not contested!! That easy!!


Cite the source. I do not believe it. You don't even have to be served, I doubt it. It's a BS story. Or they're tarded.
Serving Divorce Papers If You Can't Locate Your Spouse

BTW, that is Bigamy and is illegal.



.................................................................

Yes, yes I read all that...and I made a mistake the reason the first wife is not getting her divorce is that he contests.

now that he is married a second time though she coul put him to prison I guess...

I don't have all the details and it is an ongoing story so I better not put it all out in public....for now.

I'll write it to you in private....

graywolf55's photo
Sun 11/16/14 03:55 AM





Here in the US, it is public information, you don't even have to ask them for the papers. Find the county of marriage and go to the court house. Online public circuit court access is sooooo much easier though.



Well.....I wonder how some (non mormons) manage to marry 2 times and that in the US...

I would have thought something impossible to do...




Are they legally recognized wives by the same man in marriages in Utah? by bigamists? Or just in ceremony without the legal papers?


Not bigamists...and both women are trying to divorce and they can't...because the guy is changing address and they can't serve him.

The first and "real" wife is now in Illinois but she got married in California....and apparently she is trying to divorce since a while. The other one is European and got married in Nevada...and it is very legal...apparently

She can not ask for the divorce because she isn't a US citizen...the only thing she can do is try to get an annulment...but she still needs to live/ get an address in the US...sorry not anywhere..in Nevada.







:thumbsup: Just a suggestion: If you really want a Divorce, Check your State Laws, It Can happen!! If your spouse just wants to hold on like they have ownership papers on you (Marriage License) You and a Judge can end it yourselves! I've done it!! Anyone that allows it is also just as Guilty for one reason or another in staying in an unwanted Marriage for whatever the reason! Get your unfinished business done and then move on in life!! Just moving on solves nothing and involves an innocent person!! And again its still called (Adultery,Cheating!!) :thumbsup: Then Move On in Life!!drinks My X didn't sign the Divorce Papers" Me and a Judge did!!" Surprised the Hell out of Her!!:angel: tongue2


Yup. I also did this with 1st ex. He filed the papers he received in the trash can. Got the divorce without him. Here, the lawyer just take out a newspaper ad in the respondents local town, saying "Notice of Divorce". That simple. No signature or consent required. No fault.
We were married 8 years- separated 1- sold property (acquired) while married - split profit 1/2 equally -filed non-contested divorce- 3 times to court "Judge signs!! papers" simple procedure!! Nothing to fight over--- so its over!! No Fault Divorce, Not contested!! That easy!!


Cite the source. I do not believe it. You don't even have to be served, I doubt it. It's a BS story. Or they're tarded.
Serving Divorce Papers If You Can't Locate Your Spouse

BTW, that is Bigamy and is illegal.
I can't go on the internet and pull up laws for the state of Virginia like you can! All i can do is tell you what i did to get a non-contested divorce there!(fact) No lawyer involved, filed at county courthouse,served by deputy sheriff,3 times to court (done deal)! And it doesn't cost over $150.00 look it up! I have my receipts to prove what i say!

graywolf55's photo
Sun 11/16/14 04:18 AM
match you may be quoting Wisconsin state laws, not Virginia laws.Its different in every state! That's like growing weed in a state where its legal, the federal law will prosecute you if its in your possession! Same as moonshine is legal as long as you have a federal license to make and sell it! Just saying!drinks

peterbrorsson's photo
Sun 11/16/14 10:10 AM

From the excuses the original poster is trying to spin, and the pedestrian level word games...
I'll wager, the wife doesn't yet know they're separated and getting divorced.

I'll wager, he kept the separation and divorce a secret from her.
:laughing:

I'll wager, that I know a great divorce attorney, that I can refer her to, when she finds out.
:angel:


Sorry that my word games offend you. It was not my intention, English is my second language.

I'll wager that my address is in Brno, Czech Rep.
I'll wager that my hopefully soon to be ex-wife lives in Poznan, Poland
I'll wager that you are allowed to contact her with your divorce attorney, you would actually do me a favour:o) However your attorney would be pretty useless in Poland.
I'll wager that she is aware of my wish not to be married to her since June 2010 when we she went back to her hometown Poznan!! Yes, it's that long ago. But as I said, I'm lazy about it, does not mean much to me.

Further on, I do know that I can force it through via attorneys, I didn't seek for help in legal matters here, but thanks anyway. This attorney would cost me an arm and both legs but will be the last resort…..

All I wanted to know was the reasoning behind divorce papers. Not involving me and my life as a person.What I find interesting is that people read what they want and fill in the rest by themselves like you Mr Gnome.
Well done!

Others that think I want to control my wife or for whateverxuckedup reason, get a life beyond the keyboard….

Rock's photo
Sun 11/16/14 11:29 AM
Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.

Rock's photo
Sun 11/16/14 11:42 AM


Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.
I only use composted horse dung, which is the finest dung as far as the dung family. Organic composted is the best bet.

:laughing: drinker

no photo
Sun 11/16/14 11:45 AM


Sorry that my word games offend you. It was not my intention, English is my second language.

I'll wager that my address is in Brno, Czech Rep.
I'll wager that my hopefully soon to be ex-wife lives in Poznan, Poland
I'll wager that you are allowed to contact her with your divorce attorney, you would actually do me a favour:o) However your attorney would be pretty useless in Poland.
I'll wager that she is aware of my wish not to be married to her since June 2010 when we she went back to her hometown Poznan!! Yes, it's that long ago. But as I said, I'm lazy about it, does not mean much to me.

Further on, I do know that I can force it through via attorneys, I didn't seek for help in legal matters here, but thanks anyway. This attorney would cost me an arm and both legs but will be the last resort…..

All I wanted to know was the reasoning behind divorce papers. Not involving me and my life as a person.What I find interesting is that people read what they want and fill in the rest by themselves like you Mr Gnome.
Well done!

Others that think I want to control my wife or for whateverxuckedup reason, get a life beyond the keyboard….



I guess you just replied to your own 10 000 Euros question about throwing money. LOL
See? It's good to save money. You'll need it for that unfinished business of yours. :-)
Yes, we've got lives, but thanks for such a nice wish. Perhaps you should try it too?


Maxisu's photo
Sun 11/16/14 11:49 AM


Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.
I only use composted horse dung, which is the finest dung as far as the dung family. Organic composted is the best bet.


:smile: :smile: drinker drinker flowerforyou flowerforyou

Maxisu's photo
Sun 11/16/14 11:56 AM



Sorry that my word games offend you. It was not my intention, English is my second language.

I'll wager that my address is in Brno, Czech Rep.
I'll wager that my hopefully soon to be ex-wife lives in Poznan, Poland
I'll wager that you are allowed to contact her with your divorce attorney, you would actually do me a favour:o) However your attorney would be pretty useless in Poland.
I'll wager that she is aware of my wish not to be married to her since June 2010 when we she went back to her hometown Poznan!! Yes, it's that long ago. But as I said, I'm lazy about it, does not mean much to me.

Further on, I do know that I can force it through via attorneys, I didn't seek for help in legal matters here, but thanks anyway. This attorney would cost me an arm and both legs but will be the last resort…..

All I wanted to know was the reasoning behind divorce papers. Not involving me and my life as a person.What I find interesting is that people read what they want and fill in the rest by themselves like you Mr Gnome.
Well done!

Others that think I want to control my wife or for whateverxuckedup reason, get a life beyond the keyboard….



I guess you just replied to your own 10 000 Euros question about throwing money. LOL
See? It's good to save money. You'll need it for that unfinished business of yours. :-)
Yes, we've got lives, but thanks for such a nice wish. Perhaps you should try it too?





LOL...btw, who is getting the 10.000 Euros ? :tongue:


Maxisu's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:27 PM


During the years before getting married, there were no questions asked if there were any papers confirming end of relationship. Now when wife and I separated 2010, I"��ve been meeting women who had interest in me until question of marriage and divorce papers to prove the end of relationship occurred.

When replying there is no divorce yet, most women walked away. Speaking with my female friends, they have the same opinion. Now most of these were/is highly educated women with scientific education and brilliant minds.

Now here'��s my 10 000 EURO question. (I will not pay until satisfactory answer occurs and I'll judge it;o)

What is it with the idea of a person that has a paper that says he is married is not trusted when saying relationship is over, when at the same time, there are so many married couples that go over the domestic borders all the time. No matter he, she or it;o)

It doesn't make any sense to me as I try to be rational and look at things in a logical way. Of course I can understand the betrayal of a trusted friend and companion turns the other way suddenly, but seriously!! I have been abandoned and betrayed also but have never got any idea of a paper making a difference of trust!!!

Please be patient with me and ask if you don'��t understand my ramblings!!

Peter




Ok, as you are trying to be rational the majority of women pretty much all gave you a similar reply...which apparently is the same as your friends that are highly educated women with scientific education and brilliant minds.

- that it makes sense to walk away
- because in the majority of cases men are still way more involved or all of a sudden their private life takes a new turn
- logically chances are that it is either not serious or troubles ahead in the future (bigamy is also not allowed in Europe...just saying)...so why would anyone be interested in investing energy in that kind of relation ?


However I agree that a paper does not make a difference in trust. People can always chose to not respect a contract or a promise...on paper or not...but the consequences of paper (or electronics) nowadays also in Europe have way more implications.

Your ID is an example, your titles, diplomas, etc...

so a marriage has legal implications....whether we like it or not..

Of course all those responses are not going in your sense so you can obviously not consider them as satisfactory. I mean obviously I don't think anyone expects you or answered for the sake of the offer.
10.000 Euros probably is a way of pretending that the question is important to you....on the other hand you say you are too lazy to pursue your divorce...

So basically, you have to figure what is most important to you.

However...if you were truly honest...you should have a satisfactory answer to your question....cause they are all the same.

(lol...and share among all women that gave you the same explanation cause that's most probably THE REASON..)

glasses laugh

stan_147's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:30 PM
Y'know, I've seen this attitude before... from another poster, on another site, who's initials would be C.D.

Only a few will know this reference, and that's OK. But... don't you concur?

:laughing: rofl :laughing:

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Sun 11/16/14 12:34 PM



LOL...btw, who is getting the 10.000 Euros ? :tongue:




Lawyers. winking

peterbrorsson's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:36 PM

friend, get the divorce so you can come to the table with clean hands, as they say. Thats what a potential future relationship will want. It will also make it a clean break and you can feel completely free of your past commitment/devotion. Divorce comes with a free grieving process.

worth every crown or euro.


Noted:o)

peterbrorsson's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:36 PM

Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.


Can't agree more, however I prefer the horse dung than your imagined written dung;o)

no photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:46 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Sun 11/16/14 01:04 PM

Y'know, I've seen this attitude before... from another poster, on another site, who's initials would be C.D.

Only a few will know this reference, and that's OK. But... don't you concur?

:laughing: rofl :laughing:


You've seen it online. I know someone with a similar attitude in person. It is interesting to be asked the same questions by someone miles away, but with identical attitude.
Of all women in Hamilton he has found me. About two months after becoming a widow. My reply might have hurt him emotionally, but that's nothing compared to reactions of his (now ex) wife and mistress. Not to mention legal expenses. That hurt him the most. Poor little one...

no photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:46 PM


Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.


Can't agree more, however I prefer the horse dung than your imagined written dung;o)


You don't know when it is time to draw the line, do you? spock

Maxisu's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:47 PM




LOL...btw, who is getting the 10.000 Euros ? :tongue:




Lawyers. winking


LOL...

I bet you a flower flowerforyou that he will not divorce in the next year.

Lol...but we'll never know...

Rock's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:48 PM
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From the excuses the original poster is trying to spin, and the pedestrian level word games...
I'll wager, the wife doesn't yet know they're separated and getting divorced.

I'll wager, he kept the separation and divorce a secret from her.
:laughing:

I'll wager, that I know a great divorce attorney, that I can refer her to, when she finds out.
:angel:


Sorry that my word games offend you. It was not my intention, English is my second language.

I'll wager that my address is in Brno, Czech Rep.
I'll wager that my hopefully soon to be ex-wife lives in Poznan, Poland
I'll wager that you are allowed to contact her with your divorce attorney, you would actually do me a favour:o) However your attorney would be pretty useless in Poland.
I'll wager that she is aware of my wish not to be married to her since June 2010 when we she went back to her hometown Poznan!! Yes, it's that long ago. But as I said, I'm lazy about it, does not mean much to me.

Further on, I do know that I can force it through via attorneys, I didn't seek for help in legal matters here, but thanks anyway. This attorney would cost me an arm and both legs but will be the last resort…..

All I wanted to know was the reasoning behind divorce papers. Not involving me and my life as a person.What I find interesting is that people read what they want and fill in the rest by themselves like you Mr Gnome.
Well done!

Others that think I want to control my wife or for whateverxuckedup reason, get a life beyond the keyboard….


If you'd like, I can post my replies in the Czech language, so they'll be easier for you to comprehend.

I never said, "my" attorney. What I did say, was "a divorce attorney".

You're not well traveled, are you?
:laughing:

Again, that's an interesting backspin, you're adding to your story.
Of course, after your initial spinning was pointed out.

The time to do the right thing, starts when you wake up in the morning.
NOT after you've been caught.

navygirl's photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:53 PM


You can't trust a man.


As if a woman has NEVER been untrustworthy. whoa


I'm just shocked at the things men do to decent women everyday all over the freaking world, in my life as well, is that alright with you sir?


I have to agree with you on this point but Dodo does have a point. I have seen some pretty untrustworthy women out there as well. There are indeed some horrible human beings in this world and makes me wonder if they even have a conscience.

no photo
Sun 11/16/14 12:56 PM


LOL...

I bet you a flower flowerforyou that he will not divorce in the next year.

Lol...but we'll never know...



All things have a begging and the end. One who starts the battle isn't necessarily the one who will finish it. That too shall end one way or the other...