No, because there is an age of accountability. Yes that particular term isn't in the bible. But it breifs up alot of the teachings. We are not responsible for our actions till we know right from wrong. And once you pass the age of say 13ish you know right from wrong. Weather you avoid doing wrong is another story, but you still know it's wrong. This age isn't an exact age, for we all develop differently and learn at different paces. And that is why it's called a JUDGEMENT, it's not a SENTENCING. It will be a fair judgement including weather someone had the chance to accept Jesus or not. If they've never heard of Jesus yes they may not have accepted Jesus as lord and saviour but they did not REJECT him. And the lord says "But whoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:33

I think it's 75% of fertilized eggs, but 10% of of pregnancies where the person/people actually knew they were pregnant at the time. Abortions are fairly common within the first month due to genetic malformations, but many women don't know they are pregnant till they missed a full month or two.

Excuse me Arcamedees, could I have a word with you for a moment?

Exactly what are you referring to when you say "most" religions"?

Are you looking at Judaism, Islam, Catholicism, and the many diverging denominations of Protestantism as "Most Regions"?

If so, I think you have fallen into the Abrahamic trap yourself in sense.

All these Abrahamic religions are ONE in the SAME religion. Sure, they are all convoluted, diverging, and utterly confused babble of the Abrahamic mythology, but none-the-less, they are all based on precisely the same egotistical jealous Godhead who lusts to be the ultimate authority over his creation which is temporarily out of control.

They all worship the same jealous God, and they therefore all carry with them the same hateful bigotry of putting down everyone who doesn't worship their jealous God(s). They created multiple "Gods" simple because they have become so confused and convoluted.

But the source of their religious bigotry ultimately stems from their shared belief in a jealous God who hates heathens.

But does this single, highly diverged, and utterly confused religion truly represent "most" religions?

I personally don't think so. Once the Abrahamic religions are recognized as being merely ONE big confused mess based on a single male-chauvinistic jealous Zeus-like Godhead, then looking around at all the other world religions we simply don't see this kind of religious bigotry.

Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Wicca, Shamanism, the religion of the North American Indians, and even "Faery Lore" if you want to count that as a "religion" or spirituality, are all fundamentally free of religious bigotry.

Sure, there may be some bigoted sects even in some of these, but the main point is that this is not the "basis" of these spirituality. They are not based on a jealous Godhead who hates heathens.

The Abrahamic religions that are based on the folklore of the God of Abraham have no choice but to be bigoted religions because the first four of their Ten Commandments of Moses demands religious bigotry.

But do they truly represent "most" religions?

I guess that all depends on how you view religion on a world-wide scale. I do acknowledge that the Abrahamic religious sects have contaminated most of human religious thought, unfortunately.

It's quite unfortunate because it takes something that could be beautiful (spirituality) and makes it filthy with religious bigotry and hatred. It takes spirituality and turns it into something that's truly sick.

So you're saying if someone gives you a gift, you don't reach out and grab it?

let me clear this up for all of you who lack understanding and try to disapprove God by saying that it is man made. many people who want an autobioraphy published, dont write it themselves, they tell the writers what they want readers to know about them. there are still people who listen and obey God. yes man wrote the bible, but it is Gods words. paper and ink mean nothing, it is the message that is of value and that messege is from God given to man. God does speak to his people, just because you choose not to listen doesnt mean he is not speaking.

thank you for getting back to the original question. i started this post because i wonder that the question of God being real has to burn in the back of your mind because you really dont know. just because you are not sure of something doesnt mean it is not so. i am so strong in my faith because i am certain that my God is real and that he is the only God. i am 100% sure and i can say that with confidence, boldness and authority. i am willing to put not just my life on it, but also my soul. can you say with 100% certainty that there is no God? think about that, can you really say with 100% certainty that there is no God. you dont have to answer that because i already know. i just want you to think about that. if you think about it, we are the ones who arent real. God created us, we did not create God. your eyes and heart are shut to him so how can you possibly know if you dont desire to. i truly believe that if you sincerely set your heart to know him and seek him, then you will find him. in order to understand or obtain any knowlege you have to first have a desire to learn it.

peter the pan...

it appears you may had some close contact with the notorious religious dogmatic germ, or RDG, more common in primitive days, but still lingering in some areas of the country...

perhaps some sort of "false god radiation syndrome", or FGRS, has settled upon the region of the brain closely associated with logical deducting abilities...

hum...

i would be on high "red alert".

"rolf" could as well mean devil gamma demon rays, or DGDR, have infiltrated the neurological pathways of the brain, and caused synaptic mis-firing mechanism disorder, or SMMD...

these are very complex disorder's that many a local "faith healer" could be the cause of.

i would have these issues properly treated ASAP.

good luck in your search for a cure.

Getting back to the original question of the thread.

Why reduce everything to such simplistic terms?

Why assume that either a particular specific mythology is true, OR there is no God at all?

This kind of simple-minded view never ceases to amaze me. There are so many other possibilities.

It's like saying, "Well, either Zeus was God, or there is no God".

I mean why think like that?

Why not recognize that the truth of reality might be something far beyond what mankind has previously imagined in his superstitious fairy tales?

Why reduce yourself to some particular ancient mythology? Especially a male-chauvinistic mythology that's based on a self-confessed jealous God. A mythology that it riddled with self-contradictions, not to mention blatant errors associated with the status of physical reality.

Why focus in on that as a basis for a belief in something supernatural?

It already has been shown to be such.

The Christian myth can only be supported via a concept of FAITH.

Any attempt to try to support it by claiming that it is error-free and without contradiction is not only laughable, but it's DISHONEST.

I've shown countless contradictions and outright blatant errors.

Also you say,



But that can never happen between you and I because you flatly refuse to accept the truth. You simply remain in denial. And that's precisely where we always end up. Me having made legitimate points backed up by more than sufficient evidence, and you in completely and utter denial.

You call that "understanding".

I don't. I call that denial on your part. You just reject that facts is all.

If you subscribe to the wrong religion, do u still get points?

Except in the Ukraine and Rowanda and in Cambodia...

And don't forget that Democide by atheist governments far outnumber all deaths in all recorded wars combined. But hey, that's only what historians say...

a gift is given in love and not earned. this is very true but in order to recieve that gift one has to reach out and accept it. we who believe reach out with our faith and accept the gift of eternal life that is in Christ Jesus.

thank you for your concern and your questions. to answer your first ?, i can only tell you that the God i serve is the only God because his word tells me so. i know this because i dont just claim to know him, i have actually felt his overwhelming presence and i have experienced many of the miracles that are in the bible. you have to understand that God is the same God now as he was then. for your 2nd ?, i know that the eternity that he offers in not one of oppression because fist, he gives us choice to serve him, and 2nd, if you truly have felt his love and presence like i have then there would be no doubt about the peace and joy in heaven. i love to worship him, i cant explain the feeling i get to cry out to him and praise him, all my worries and cares cease in his presence. your 3rd ?, all you need to be saved is faith. your faith will cause you to seek him and understand you need to be born again. your 4th ?, my relationship with God is interactive but mostly on his part. i am a man who struggles with giving up the things of this world just like many others. i dont claim to have it all together but i understand how much he loves me and this causes me to always come back to him and stive to obey and do that which is upright. he mostly speaks to me in dreams, i guess thats the best way he can get my attention is when i am still. he speaks to us all the time but we arent always receptive. i thank you again for your questions and if theres anything else you would like to know please dont hesitate to write me here or send me an email to my profile.

i can debate with whoever wants to because i am confident in the knowlege that the Lord has given me. i chose not to because i dont believe in arguing over Gods word. i only like to share with those who want to listen. anyone who i feel doesnt care about sincerely knowing God, i dont waist time with.

You are still missing the point man. we are not saved by our ACTIONS. only by grace through faith. i really dont expect you to understand. you are one of the blind men that i have compasion for. oh yeah, thanks for the quote tip.

Um...what? In a sense you are right about the 'feel some greater reward', but I think your first question is totally off base and presumptive. What did he hope to gain implies he's seeking after a future, possible payoff of some kind. We don't need to hope to gain, we can immediately gain by being true to ourselves, doing what feels right to us. It may be cliche, but for some of us: when people are being honest with us, the act of giving is its own reward. If they are lying to us, that can easily undermine that immediate and authentic satisfaction - because we weren't honestly giving to an honest person, we were being manipulated and scammed.

you are "people"....

Totally agree.

Welcome to life my dear. Everyone in some way or form has experienced the negative you had to some or the same extent, in one form or another. So...what did you get out of the experience, hopefully not permanent damage that will eventually make you more and more bitter and cynical in life? PLEASE. We certainly don't need any more of that anywhere.
You got alot of great replies on here, and one thing I noticed in a few of your replies to these people was cyinicism, maybe a little unwarranted harshness and a attitude of who asked you?
Mind you, am in a peaceful, objective state myself at this time. Perhaps...you are already receiving a little karma by this persons deed? You say you helped her, there has to be more. Were you expecting a little more out of her work,
were expecting something..only you know IF you examine your behavior. What we are thinking/feeling does indeed come out in our lanquage, body, facial and vocal (slips or not) even if we think it's been hidden.
Look at life as some sort of test. To give in to disgust, hatred, bitterness over a few hundred dollars is failure. To get the message behind it, (for it is a lesson) and avoid changing your persona into something more angry, justified, righteous, etc is the ultimate win.
You certainly don't think life is just simplicity and you float through it without incident?
Acceptance is the key. People are going to do the unexpected and you may just get run over by that runaway truck once in awhile. Accept that you cannot change others- expect some turbulance at times and in the end work on forgiving her, it's just not all that bad considering what ALOT of people are going through and losing these days. BTW, 1 1/2 wks ago had my 1200$ lap stolen from work from a room that is supposed to stay locked and only certain people should be allowed in there. The week before I gave a man who had been laid off a hundred dollars to get me something for my truck that it needed. He never came back with the money. I set them both up to happen unintenionally, so. Does this make me angry? No. Empathy that these are hard times and desperate times bring out desperate measures. And the reality that they must need it much more than I at that time to take those things..
Do some spiritual reading from some of our great teachers who have come, to get your head twisted right again.
Good Luck.

good to hear you got your bases covered. people go to court for some pretty lame stuff, and there are plenty of lawyers out there willing to take on those cases. flipping the bird, shooting a goosey, i guess that must be one of those "in these hear parts" way of saying things. once this blows over you can go back to your old self, only a little bit wiser. you can still help people, it's in your heart.