very true fran...it's getting silly almost because the taxes pay if they win the law suit or settlement

Actually I don't really think this particular song is offensive as much as repetitive and hypnotic, kids can't help but wonder what the heck they are singing about after a while, then where do the teachers go, to more instructive songs? I think the authorities in this school are pushing christianity anyway they can, to me that is wrong if it's a public school.

If it is open to interpretation then I wonder why folks are saying these parents are wrong to stop it? confused..

While people will always be offended by something or other, isn't it curious it's usually religious based? Wouldn't it make more sense to leave religion out of public school and in the home where the parent has some control?

I see nothing wrong with either song, but then again this is just my opinion. As I see nothing wrong in exposing children to the vast cultures, religions, information available. I saw it as my job to explain to my child how to respect the opinions and differences of others. Worked for me and my daughter.

This 2nd song is just like the song, BINGO... nothing more nothing less - repetitive as you stated.

it's not wrong to try to stop it....i don't think the song should have been done to begin with.

fran...did these parents go to the teacher, principal, school board...anything first?

What if the children were to sing Marlyn Manson's "The Beautiful People"?

"In God We Still Trust" was the first song, parents contacted the school and teacher and the song was pulled from the program but the parents still chose to file suit (their choice)

"Chatter with the Angels" second song (lyrics posted on pg 1) is the second song these parents want banned.

Those parents need a hobby, like playing WoW or petting kittens or something.

i can see wanting it banned if it offends them...but hopefully they tried to get it banned before filing a suit

don't know it, so can't comment on this song

my problem is...if this is how it happened...go to the teacher first, then principal, then school board before suing. the tax payers are the ones that pay for winnings or settlements

I don't see a reason to ban the song, if any parent is against their child learning it, make it known and remove your child from the program. What about the other children who enjoyed the song?

wait...is this a separate program???? or in a class?

sorry was going to edit as I re-read my post -- the first song was to be performed by students in an assembly setting, a student program. Don't know about the second one but what is in the paper.

i could understand it if it is in a class because the kids are required to attend...but i agree with you about the after school thing

This is an easy fix.....

have the kids sing nothing but Blood Hound Gang tunes....a week of that and those same parents will be suing to have the angel song reinstated.

Hi Fran, Sincerely and with all due respect, I have no problem with and admire your wanting to expose your children to vast cultures ect. I would just prefer that go on at home where the parent has some control of it, and it does not interfere with other parents who do not want their's exposed to the complexities of anyone's religion at that age.

As for the repetitive, that is what concerns me as well. After all learning about religion is alot about repetition. I know, been there. I don't want my kids struggling between who they are and someone's interpretation of god, and then having to spend a half a life time removing that programming. I would let my kids learn about religion when they are ready and curious and at an age when they can absorb and can be objective about it. This song may not be as intrusive as the last but where does the teacher decide to take my kids next. I'ts obvious the shool's teachers etc didn't learn much from the last suite. I am happy these parents have the courage to fight it.

You see nothing wrong, if you are religious I can understand that. If you are then I can see why you might not have a problem with it, and that is not a slam, just a curiosity. I'm an x-christian, spiritual but not religious, so I see a bit of a problem. I would hope that if I was an active christian I would still see a problem for other parents that did not believe as I do.

but this is what I mean, in the real world we are surrounded by differences not only at home, it is a part of life, regardless of whether one agrees with it or not, it just is. A parents role is to guide and teach their child, I don't agree with secluding children. Again this is my opinion and remember my daughter is 23 not a minor.


This applies to most subjects like mathematics, penmanship all is repetitive - but I do see your point.

exposing religion does not mean brainwashing (but have seen people do push this envelop)

differences is what makes us all unique



Boo, I do not follow any organized form of religion.

I just try to remove the labels people try so hard to place on themselves.

Here's my scenario - (all hypothetical/nothing personal ok?)

you want the song removed/banned from the school list, what about those other children and parents who found nothing wrong with the song? they didn't find it offensive, they found it entertaining, why should your (again hypothetical) problems be burdened onto them?

the problem is there will always be something offensive to someone and you can't please everyone