You are very methodical, Looking4PB

When God called Abraham, the bible said that He called
him from his father's house in his father's land. God
told Abraham to come away ffrom his father and to go to
a land far away that God would lead him to. God did
not say "Get your father's blessing or even agreement
or permission to go far away to an unknown land led by a
previously unknown God. God said just to go, to obey
HIM, God, not his father in getting direction for his
life - and Abraham did just that, trusting that God would
keep him from the robbers, wild beasts, lack of food
and water.

In the books of 1 & 2 Kings there were kings of Israel who
worshipped idols, but their son(s) destroyed all of his
father's idols after the son came into power. The bible
says the son(s)did right in the sight of the Lord. The
father did not agree to it because he worshipped them.
As a result of the son(s) behavior, God went further
and blessed all Israel for it.

When God touches you, as I totally believe He will, if
you do what the "How to know God" video suggests and
keep in touch with the Sid Roth programs/videos and
When needed, talk to Sid Roth about your questions/
direction, (at www.sidroth.org) clarity will come.

Well, I try.

cool

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You could pray for good weather... Be warned that there are consequences for everything you do.

If you change the weather to benefit yourself... in the closed cycle system that is earth... Who will you condem to bad weather in you selfish desire for good.

so if mary didnt have sex, did she rool over into joesphs wet dreap and start playing with herself

misspell on the lAST 1, ALSO IF ADAM AND VEV HAD TWO SONS, THEN DID EVE RAPE HER CHILDREN TO PRODUCE OFFSPRING

Irregardless of what you think Jesus said or didn't say, the fact is there are many different churches and many different perspectives on Christianity and Jesus.

So its not "according to Jesus." It is according to what or who you choose to believe said about about Jesus and what he may or may not have said. There is no THAT CHURCH except in your mind.

I disagree that churches are not determined by the will or choice of man. Yes they are. Churches and religion are man made.



That is not true because Jesus did not start Christianity, and he did not write the Bible. It sounds to me you worship the Bible, not Jesus.

Christianity is about a man named Jesus who is claimed to be The Christ. (Read the Urantia Book and try telling followers of Jesus who read the Urantia Book that they are not Christians.)

Do you forget what Christianity is? It is about the message of Love.

That was very disgusting and inappropriate...

Christianity is about the gospel message - which is that all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, but they have an advocate in Jesus Christ, who became the cacrifice for the sins of the world - that woever believes in him, shall be reconciled to God.

That is the message of the love of Christianity. It is about becoming a disciple of Christ. Which means "follower". So... if Jesus did not "start" christianity, then who did, and why? For he built his church upon the message of the dsciples, and told them to go out into the world and spread the gospel; and teach all that he had taught them which they did. We now those teachings to be the recorded word of scripture. Without the bible - how would anyone know about christianity? You can't have one without the other.

He knows that people like that want the shock factor. Why else come on here and talk like that.

I agree with you. I am so glad that there are some of us out here willing to express the truth about God and Christ!

It is very sad to me to read all this in here. The things i have read are nothing but people who dont know Gods love sin is the reason stuff happens and the sad thing is when you relize that it will be to late for you. Jesus loves us but that does not give us license to sin. None of this made any sence to me until I accepted Jesus as my savior I was 20 so i had done alot before that. Why people come in here it seems to me is to make fun. The Bible says God will not be mocked. You may think you will get by with it but u wont. No, normaly He wont strike you dead on the spot but your time will come. You need to think about the the things you say.

I agree with you!

but what man is to say what church that is

or if that church is even a church in the form that man considers church

look through the threads and posts of the blatant examples of hypocrisy

such as (i have been told by many christians i am going to hell--what makes them think they are of the proper church [i have no idea if they are or not] but does it not say in the bible judge not yest yee be judged) so who is any human to say such a thing

or to say you are a (insert anything you wish) and you are not worthy it is not any human's decision to make so why try

why would you want such a responsibility anyway (what if you are wrong) [kind of like imposing the death penalty on an innocent man possibly]

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

I think "the gospel message" as you call it actually misses the point of the teachings of Jesus and what they mean. The whole idea of the need of a 'sacrifice' for the sins of the world does not even begin to make any sense unless you have a God that is appeased by BLOOD and DEATH.

The crime of "SIN" truly boils down to humans disobedience of GOD. Blind obedience is what God required of Adam and Eve, who did not know any better, who did not know good from evil. Their sin was disobedience, punishable by death. But how many loving parents would punish their children with death for disobedience? Who would punish another with death for disobedience?

A slave master would.

Would you kill or punish an animal, a dog perhaps, with death for disobedience? (Some people would.) But not if you LOVED THEM. Maybe only if you OWNED THEM and they were property or just being kept for your amusement.

So you see, none of what you call 'the gospel' makes any real logical sense if you worship a loving God. Its all about obedience and punishment, sacrifice and fear and ownership of slaves.

Not about Love at all. Love was the real message of Jesus. It was lost in the 'gospel' written by men and the church fathers. Its a real shame too.


Because LOVE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT.

And furthermore...

The concept of original sin was started by St. Augustine, and not in the Bible, in Luke, Jesus clearly gives his message: the kingdom of g-d is within you...

What??!!

Did you believe the Bible actually said: In Adam's fall, sinned we all? The Jewish faith has no concept of Original Sin, it took St. Augustine to come up with it; there reason Catholic priests are not supposed to get married comes from him also, he believe that because you peed out of you pen1s, that you should not use it for anything else, cuz that is dirty.