Would you care to elucidate?

It was a no drama answer

Cheating, Lying, and Abuse are complaints of both sexes. The other stuff is petty. Men complain that she has her junk all over the bathroom counter-women complain he leaves his socks on the floor. Men complain she doesn't clean out the inside of the car--women complain that he can't clear the dishes off the table.

As long as men and women live together this stuff is going to be said and it is what I call life-not earth shattering--nobody is dying. So for the great things about the differences in the sexes we have to put up with a few things we don't like. The choices are learn to live with it or don't be in a relationship.

Better go and check.

I don't think so...well, not necessarily, anyway...and certainly not all women. I've spent much of the last 20 years avoiding emotional roller coasters. Didn't manage to eliminate them until I eliminated the ex from my life. He wasn't much good at that stability stuff. NOT to say, however, that no man is good at stability...um, just the ex.

Seems to me that no one is able to ride an emotional coaster without some help or cooperation. When it was obvious the one I was trying to avoid wasn't going to stop, I jumped off...whew!

Awesome! I agree 100%.

But, does that mean the "crap" women talk about isn't real?

Alright. so let's put a point on it then. If women cannot tell men what we are doing wrong how can men improve and become better at pleasing our women?

Is it cheating? Lying? Abuse? Is it that we simply don't see the mess we've just made? Is it that we forgot to bring home milk yet again?

My only complaint about women is that women complain so much about what seems to me to be nothing. This makes me (and I'm sure a lot of other men) think that women need to have drama in their lives. Women need to feel the emotional roller coaster and then feel her man's stability through it.

Am I right?

I guess its as real as the "crap" men talk about---which pretty much says that "all" the complaining is "crap"

But, does that mean the "crap" women talk about isn't real?

As I said, my only complaint with any woman I've been in a relationship with is that she complained so much.

Yes, I'm a little sloppy. Yes, I forget things. Yes, I eat poorly and smoke too much. She should get used to it or move on.

Did you take it?

I've seen a number of women posting about the "crap" or "bullsh!t" they have to put up with from men, but I've never understood what it is. I'm curious to learn if it's something that's simply the nature of men, like not even seeing a mess, or if it's something else.

So please ladies, explain to me exactly what this BS is you have to put up with from so many men.

Yes, I'm a little sloppy. Yes, I forget things. Yes, I eat poorly and smoke too much. She should get used to it or move on.

i'm always amused to read how people refuse to change, anything, for anyone, and then wonder why they are alone?

what's wrong with trying to do something for something you love, if only to make them happy and to show them how much you care of their opinion?

i'm not talking about core values here, but what's the big deal about picking up your socks if she asks you to and tells you that it bothers her? she should pack her bags and leave? over that?