Topic: Is Knowledge a Gift from Satan - part 2
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Mon 06/28/10 10:02 AM





Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happyLove will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


Way to contradict yourself.
You said "Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy"
(you put the emphasis on anything, not me)

Then said "no i would not kill someone if a woman asked"

So which is it?huh


I agree...if Cowboy claim that love supposedly makes you do anything...and if he claim that if you truely love a woman that you would do anything to make her happy..then why wouldn't Cowboy kill for her if that would make her happy ...do that mean that he truely doesn't love the woman


done answered this and said that i love our father greater then anything or anyone woman or other. And listen and do God's will before i would do any other's will.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:03 AM





Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him ....but you do love God enough to kill an innocent person for him .......isn't this a contradiction


Who are you to judge? And why try to make it personal in an attempt to get under my skin?

And the person would not be innocent if God wished for me to kill him. God is a just god and does not do anything any other.


who are I to judge......Dude get a grip...it's only a debate ...you were the one that made it personal when you included that woman that you love but wouldn't kill for

what you are saying is that you would kill someone if you heard a voice that sound like God that told you to kill someone ...you wouldn't bother to ask God why you have to kill this person....you would just kill out of love for a God you never met

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Mon 06/28/10 10:06 AM






Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him ....but you do love God enough to kill an innocent person for him .......isn't this a contradiction


Who are you to judge? And why try to make it personal in an attempt to get under my skin?

And the person would not be innocent if God wished for me to kill him. God is a just god and does not do anything any other.


who are I to judge......Dude get a grip...it's only a debate ...you were the one that made it personal when you included that woman that you love but wouldn't kill for

what you are saying is that you would kill someone if you heard a voice that sound like God that told you to kill someone ...you wouldn't bother to ask God why you have to kill this person....you would just kill out of love for a God you never met


No wouldn't do it over just me thinking God told me to do something voices or other. And doesn't matter i won't ever have to make that choice for God would not ask of this.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:06 AM






Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happyLove will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


Way to contradict yourself.
You said "Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy"
(you put the emphasis on anything, not me)

Then said "no i would not kill someone if a woman asked"

So which is it?huh


I agree...if Cowboy claim that love supposedly makes you do anything...and if he claim that if you truely love a woman that you would do anything to make her happy..then why wouldn't Cowboy kill for her if that would make her happy ...do that mean that he truely doesn't love the woman


done answered this and said that i love our father greater then anything or anyone woman or other. And listen and do God's will before i would do any other's will.


but the fact remains....that you would kill for love

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Mon 06/28/10 10:07 AM







Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him ....but you do love God enough to kill an innocent person for him .......isn't this a contradiction


Who are you to judge? And why try to make it personal in an attempt to get under my skin?

And the person would not be innocent if God wished for me to kill him. God is a just god and does not do anything any other.


who are I to judge......Dude get a grip...it's only a debate ...you were the one that made it personal when you included that woman that you love but wouldn't kill for

what you are saying is that you would kill someone if you heard a voice that sound like God that told you to kill someone ...you wouldn't bother to ask God why you have to kill this person....you would just kill out of love for a God you never met


No wouldn't do it over just me thinking God told me to do something voices or other. And doesn't matter i won't ever have to make that choice for God would not ask of this.


so are you saying that nowhere in the bible did God ask anyone to kill?

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Mon 06/28/10 10:07 AM






Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him ....but you do love God enough to kill an innocent person for him .......isn't this a contradiction


Who are you to judge? And why try to make it personal in an attempt to get under my skin?

And the person would not be innocent if God wished for me to kill him. God is a just god and does not do anything any other.


who are I to judge......Dude get a grip...it's only a debate ...you were the one that made it personal when you included that woman that you love but wouldn't kill for

what you are saying is that you would kill someone if you heard a voice that sound like God that told you to kill someone ...you wouldn't bother to ask God why you have to kill this person....you would just kill out of love for a God you never met


reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"

You have absolutely no idea if i sin or not, and or how i live my life. And that's not relevant either so it will no longer be discussed because of that and it being off topic.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:10 AM








Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him ....but you do love God enough to kill an innocent person for him .......isn't this a contradiction


Who are you to judge? And why try to make it personal in an attempt to get under my skin?

And the person would not be innocent if God wished for me to kill him. God is a just god and does not do anything any other.


who are I to judge......Dude get a grip...it's only a debate ...you were the one that made it personal when you included that woman that you love but wouldn't kill for

what you are saying is that you would kill someone if you heard a voice that sound like God that told you to kill someone ...you wouldn't bother to ask God why you have to kill this person....you would just kill out of love for a God you never met


No wouldn't do it over just me thinking God told me to do something voices or other. And doesn't matter i won't ever have to make that choice for God would not ask of this.


so are you saying that nowhere in the bible did God ask anyone to kill?


No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:13 AM

reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"


it's not a judgement...it's logic....you claim that if you truely love someone that you would do "anything" to make them happy...apparently you made it clear that you love God enough to kill for him.....but yet you can't stop sining against him....wouldn't that indicate that you truely don't love God but do truely love to kill for him

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Mon 06/28/10 10:16 AM


reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"


it's not a judgement...it's logic....you claim that if you truely love someone that you would do "anything" to make them happy...apparently you made it clear that you love God enough to kill for him.....but yet you can't stop sining against him....wouldn't that indicate that you truely don't love God but do truely love to kill for him


==last post on this subject==
It's not logic, it's judging for the simple fact again that you nor any other person knows how i live my life or conduct myself through out.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:16 AM


No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


Yet another contradiction by you, you claim that god never told someone to kill another, then move quickly to dismiss the OT, since your first comment doesn't (and can't) set a boundary on when this happened, then the OT is in play, and you knew you were wrong as soon as you wrote your first comment, otherwise you wouldn't have to move so quickly to dismiss the OT..

In this thread, you are claiming that you would kill for love, and in another thread you go on about how a young child dying is a good thing..
Can you not see just how backward that logic is?

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Mon 06/28/10 10:18 AM



reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"


it's not a judgement...it's logic....you claim that if you truely love someone that you would do "anything" to make them happy...apparently you made it clear that you love God enough to kill for him.....but yet you can't stop sining against him....wouldn't that indicate that you truely don't love God but do truely love to kill for him


==last post on this subject==
It's not logic, it's judging for the simple fact again that you nor any other person knows how i live my life or conduct myself through out.



Cowboy....you were the one that claim that you can't stop intentionly sinning so that is how we know...of course unless you were lying

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Mon 06/28/10 10:20 AM



reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"


it's not a judgement...it's logic....you claim that if you truely love someone that you would do "anything" to make them happy...apparently you made it clear that you love God enough to kill for him.....but yet you can't stop sining against him....wouldn't that indicate that you truely don't love God but do truely love to kill for him


==last post on this subject==
It's not logic, it's judging for the simple fact again that you nor any other person knows how i live my life or conduct myself through out.



Isn't that the exact same thing you are doing when you claim I have never loved a woman?

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Mon 06/28/10 10:20 AM



No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


Yet another contradiction by you, you claim that god never told someone to kill another, then move quickly to dismiss the OT, since your first comment doesn't (and can't) set a boundary on when this happened, then the OT is in play, and you knew you were wrong as soon as you wrote your first comment, otherwise you wouldn't have to move so quickly to dismiss the OT..

In this thread, you are claiming that you would kill for love, and in another thread you go on about how a young child dying is a good thing..
Can you not see just how backward that logic is?


It's not backwards. Because a person did not "KILL" that baby.

"you are claiming that you would kill for love"

I said i would kill if God gave me instructions to do as such, it would have to be very very clear that this instruction came from God and not just a "i think God told me to do so". And on top of that i said God would NEVER ask anyone to do as such because Thou shalt not kill is specifically one of the commandments.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:21 AM




reason i mentioned the judging was cause you said this "it's amazing that you don't love God enough to stop intentionly sinning against him"


it's not a judgement...it's logic....you claim that if you truely love someone that you would do "anything" to make them happy...apparently you made it clear that you love God enough to kill for him.....but yet you can't stop sining against him....wouldn't that indicate that you truely don't love God but do truely love to kill for him


==last post on this subject==
It's not logic, it's judging for the simple fact again that you nor any other person knows how i live my life or conduct myself through out.



Isn't that the exact same thing you are doing when you claim I have never loved a woman?


Yes true, and i appologize for doing as such. Wasn't thinking when i said as such. I truely am sorry and hope for your forgiveness.

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Mon 06/28/10 10:45 AM

No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


jeez Cowboy...you are the master of contradiction....first you claim God never commanded anyone to kill and then in the same post you try to dismiss the fact that God did command that people kill in the old testament

so is that what you would say to God if he asked you to kill today....that you would say to God....hey God I don't have to do as you say and kill because the old testament was full-filled by Jesus

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Mon 06/28/10 10:51 AM


No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


jeez Cowboy...you are the master of contradiction....first you claim God never commanded anyone to kill and then in the same post you try to dismiss the fact that God did command that people kill in the old testament

so is that what you would say to God if he asked you to kill today....that you would say to God....hey God I don't have to do as you say and kill because the old testament was full-filled by Jesus


How is that a contradiction? I said and i quote "They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves" And this is done through sinning for the only reward for sin is death.

And your second statement doesn't deserve a responce because God would never do as such, because he has told us not to kill and has never done this before, so he has no reason to start now.

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Mon 06/28/10 11:04 AM



No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


jeez Cowboy...you are the master of contradiction....first you claim God never commanded anyone to kill and then in the same post you try to dismiss the fact that God did command that people kill in the old testament

so is that what you would say to God if he asked you to kill today....that you would say to God....hey God I don't have to do as you say and kill because the old testament was full-filled by Jesus


How is that a contradiction? I said and i quote "They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves" And this is done through sinning for the only reward for sin is death.

And your second statement doesn't deserve a responce because God would never do as such, because he has told us not to kill and has never done this before, so he has no reason to start now.


Cowboy.......it appears you are once again resorting to lying...someone killing theirself is called suicide ...did God command them to committ suicide on themselves or homicide on those other than themselves ....

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Mon 06/28/10 11:07 AM




No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


jeez Cowboy...you are the master of contradiction....first you claim God never commanded anyone to kill and then in the same post you try to dismiss the fact that God did command that people kill in the old testament

so is that what you would say to God if he asked you to kill today....that you would say to God....hey God I don't have to do as you say and kill because the old testament was full-filled by Jesus


How is that a contradiction? I said and i quote "They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves" And this is done through sinning for the only reward for sin is death.

And your second statement doesn't deserve a responce because God would never do as such, because he has told us not to kill and has never done this before, so he has no reason to start now.


Cowboy.......it appears you are once again resorting to lying...someone killing theirself is called suicide ...did God command them to committ suicide on themselves or homicide on those other than themselves ....


No i'm not lieing. The passing away of our mortal bodies is not death.

Death would consist of ceasing to exist, the only way to achieve this is by not following what God has told us to do. And yes we stumble from time to time and is why God gave us a way to be forgiven.

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Mon 06/28/10 11:09 AM







Doesn't sound like you truely entirely have loved a woman :s. Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happyLove will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy, and the fear of loosing her is always there because you feel you couldn't live without that person.


Cowboy...if you truely loved her would you kill an innocent person for her if she asked you to do so.....would you kill an innocent person if God asked you to do so...and would it be out of love or out of fear


Yes i would if God asked. Would be out of love and wanting to be obedient to show that love i held for our heavenly father.

No i would not kill someone if a woman asked, for my love for our heavenly father is far greater then any love i have or ever will have for a woman.


Way to contradict yourself.
You said "Love will make you do ANYTHING to just make her happy"
(you put the emphasis on anything, not me)

Then said "no i would not kill someone if a woman asked"

So which is it?huh


I agree...if Cowboy claim that love supposedly makes you do anything...and if he claim that if you truely love a woman that you would do anything to make her happy..then why wouldn't Cowboy kill for her if that would make her happy ...do that mean that he truely doesn't love the woman


done answered this and said that i love our father greater then anything or anyone woman or other. And listen and do God's will before i would do any other's will.


but the fact remains....that you would kill for love


God would not ask someone to murder someone else. He has told us NOT to kill anyone.

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Mon 06/28/10 11:12 AM





No God has NEVER told someone to kill someone. And now you're gonna get a verse out of old testament. So i point out that in the old testament times people were judged on earth for their actions. And the only reward for sin is death, so yes people were told to stone sinners. They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves. Killed themselves by committing their lives to a sinful nature.


jeez Cowboy...you are the master of contradiction....first you claim God never commanded anyone to kill and then in the same post you try to dismiss the fact that God did command that people kill in the old testament

so is that what you would say to God if he asked you to kill today....that you would say to God....hey God I don't have to do as you say and kill because the old testament was full-filled by Jesus


How is that a contradiction? I said and i quote "They were not killing anyone, the one that killed anyone was themselves" And this is done through sinning for the only reward for sin is death.

And your second statement doesn't deserve a responce because God would never do as such, because he has told us not to kill and has never done this before, so he has no reason to start now.


Cowboy.......it appears you are once again resorting to lying...someone killing theirself is called suicide ...did God command them to committ suicide on themselves or homicide on those other than themselves ....


No i'm not lieing. The passing away of our mortal bodies is not death.

Death would consist of ceasing to exist, the only way to achieve this is by not following what God has told us to do. And yes we stumble from time to time and is why God gave us a way to be forgiven.


cool.....so that means that Jesus didn't die on the cross or for your sins