If someone stabs you in the face, it's murder. If you kill someone who is trying to stab you in the face, it's self-defense. I have to say that some of your questions are very confusing, the answers are self-evident.

If someone stabs you in the face, it's murder. If you kill someone who is trying to stab you in the face, it's self-defense. I have to say that some of your questions are very confusing, the answers are self-evident.

I was stabbed in the face once, but i dont believe i was murdered.

Murder is murder, self defence does not justify killing someone. That is an excuse not a reasoning.

Murder is murder, self defence does not justify killing someone. That is an excuse not a reasoning.

Self defence does justify killing someone.

If you allow someone to murder you, is it suicide? Would you allow someone to murder your parents or anyone for that matter?

Self defence justifies nothing. Are you willing loose your life trying to save it?

YES!!! Without a doubt in my mind.

Matthew 16:26
For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life?

Falls into what is being said here.

Matthew 16:26
For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life?

Romans 14:1-10
1Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions.

2One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only.

3The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him.

4Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.

6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.

7For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself;

8for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.

9For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

10But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

Not even close. I wouldn't be out to "gain the whole world".

It falls under this quote...

"12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you."

14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.

Some friend.

If a mortal man said that to you I'm sure you'd tell him to take a hike instantly without a second thought.

You are correct, but that doesn't add anything to the conversation, except that you finally admit that Jesus wasn't just a mortal man.

Hardly.

All I said was that if a mortal man said that to you, you'd tell him to get lost.

That doesn't imply that Jesus wasn't a mortal man.

All you're doing is showing that you have no concept of logic or reasoning. A person makes a statement and you jump to conclusions that the statement never even remotely implied.

It's no wonder that you believe in such illogical fables.

I'm glad you made this statement...

Now we see that you (using your own logic), have no concept of logic or reasoning.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/291634?page=13

And that is just one of many which I'm sure you will try to deny...

Some friend.

If a mortal man said that to you I'm sure you'd tell him to take a hike instantly without a second thought.

Self defence does justify killing someone.

If you allow someone to murder you, is it suicide? Would you allow someone to murder your parents or anyone for that matter?

Self defense can be done without killing in all situations. So it still doesn't justify killing.