Topic: one wonders why submission has to be enforced on us , women
msharmony's photo
Thu 09/01/11 03:46 PM
why?

does our technological advances mean we have learned more about what is important or just learned more about how to make our lives 'easier'?


Chazster's photo
Thu 09/01/11 04:17 PM




The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness...


How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date.


Agreed but try ALL OF IT IS OUT OF DATE that is more accurate.

It is silly to think that 2000 years ago men knew better than we do todaynoway laugh


Date has nothing to do with knowledge. Disaster events has a way of destroying knowledge. It has happened in the past and could happen in the future if an extinction level event occurred. Especially in the past when writing was more primitive and less people were educated. Epidemics and natural disasters killing enough people could cause a loss of knowledge.

miko1960's photo
Thu 09/01/11 04:29 PM
Still waiting on that sandwich woman, bring me a glass of milk toomad mad mad

no photo
Thu 09/01/11 05:03 PM
Something tells me that if miko insists on waiting for that sandwich, he's going to starve. laugh

mspattie100's photo
Thu 09/01/11 05:42 PM




The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness...


How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date.



'He who receives a prophet as a prophet shall get the reward of a prophet...' and vice-versa. For one to get the latest and current information from the bible,she/he must be truly born again having received Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and saviour. She/he must also depend solely on the Holy Spirit to interprete the most uptodate information,to run daily affairs,even out of the so-called obsolete biblical injunctions,for her/he. Otherwise you'll only be reading the bible like a common story book without making any sense out of it. Faith and a meek heart that will not be carried away by one's level of education and/or civilization are some of other factors. So you now see why many think bible teachings are out of date!


Totally agree you have to born again to receive the bible as the word of God.

krupa's photo
Thu 09/01/11 06:04 PM
Oh Please!

Take the biblical crap to the religion threads.

Let me clue you guys into a little something.

Submissive people submit. Dominant people don't.

This ain't rocket science.

If someone has done you wrong. YOU let it happen and YOU let it slide. Unless you crowbarred em upside the back of the head....you stand back and whine about being in a submissive position.

BULLSCHITT.

This applies to men and women.

You either stand the hell up and say "I DON'T PUT UP WITH THAT SCHITT!"..or you keep your mouth shut and internally say "I won't put up with that schitt.

Nobody will ever admit that they put up with crap. We all do it.

Submissive women are like submissive men. They SUBMIT.

Dominant people dominate.

Splitting hairs only makes me think that you fall into the "P*$$y" catagory.

miko1960's photo
Thu 09/01/11 06:35 PM
Everyone needs to just chill, fact is woman are more likely to be submissive, as they lack the higher dose of testosterone, and please no more responses about men and woman not being different, there is just to much evidence based on conclusive research conducted both in the scientific and medical fields as well as in the field of psychology, I was a psych major by the way.

Men by nature are usually more aggressive then woman, don't believe me, just make an internet search for differences in the sexes.

krupa's photo
Thu 09/01/11 07:04 PM
Men are pansies.

galendgirl's photo
Thu 09/01/11 08:06 PM

The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


The real point is that it IS a two way street...men are supposed to love/respect their wives and women will respond with honor/submissive behavior - but I don't think we really understand that "submissive" does NOT mean doormat! A loving/respectful relationship wouldn't require that doormat behavior. I believe the scriptural intention is for there to exist a partnership where both people's needs are met in harmony. If there is the slightest imbalance, it becomes WRONG by any standard.

metalwing's photo
Thu 09/01/11 08:11 PM


The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


The real point is that it IS a two way street...men are supposed to love/respect their wives and women will respond with honor/submissive behavior - but I don't think we really understand that "submissive" does NOT mean doormat! A loving/respectful relationship wouldn't require that doormat behavior. I believe the scriptural intention is for there to exist a partnership where both people's needs are met in harmony. If there is the slightest imbalance, it becomes WRONG by any standard.


And the good book said!

"Make me a sandwich!"

galendgirl's photo
Thu 09/01/11 08:12 PM



The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


The real point is that it IS a two way street...men are supposed to love/respect their wives and women will respond with honor/submissive behavior - but I don't think we really understand that "submissive" does NOT mean doormat! A loving/respectful relationship wouldn't require that doormat behavior. I believe the scriptural intention is for there to exist a partnership where both people's needs are met in harmony. If there is the slightest imbalance, it becomes WRONG by any standard.


And the good book said!

"Make me a sandwich!"


Would you like that served topless?

...Hey...I meant with only one piece of bread! :)

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 06:35 AM





The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness...


How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date.


Agreed but try ALL OF IT IS OUT OF DATE that is more accurate.

It is silly to think that 2000 years ago men knew better than we do todaynoway laugh


Date has nothing to do with knowledge. Disaster events has a way of destroying knowledge. It has happened in the past and could happen in the future if an extinction level event occurred. Especially in the past when writing was more primitive and less people were educated. Epidemics and natural disasters killing enough people could cause a loss of knowledge.



Guess I'm having supporters here. The problem is that people all over the world are being carried away by their level of technological advancements rather than their Godly spiritual entities which is timeless and far greater than millions of technology which fades with time!

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 06:39 AM





The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness...


How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date.



'He who receives a prophet as a prophet shall get the reward of a prophet...' and vice-versa. For one to get the latest and current information from the bible,she/he must be truly born again having received Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and saviour. She/he must also depend solely on the Holy Spirit to interprete the most uptodate information,to run daily affairs,even out of the so-called obsolete biblical injunctions,for her/he. Otherwise you'll only be reading the bible like a common story book without making any sense out of it. Faith and a meek heart that will not be carried away by one's level of education and/or civilization are some of other factors. So you now see why many think bible teachings are out of date!


Totally agree you have to born again to receive the bible as the word of God.


Halleluyah!

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 06:44 AM


The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


The real point is that it IS a two way street...men are supposed to love/respect their wives and women will respond with honor/submissive behavior - but I don't think we really understand that "submissive" does NOT mean doormat! A loving/respectful relationship wouldn't require that doormat behavior. I believe the scriptural intention is for there to exist a partnership where both people's needs are met in harmony. If there is the slightest imbalance, it becomes WRONG by any standard.



You are correct ma.

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 07:01 AM





The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their
wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness...


How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date.



'He who receives a prophet as a prophet shall get the reward of a prophet...' and vice-versa. For one to get the latest and current information from the bible,she/he must be truly born again having received Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and saviour. She/he must also depend solely on the Holy Spirit to interprete the most uptodate information,to run daily affairs,even out of the so-called obsolete biblical injunctions,for her/he. Otherwise you'll only be reading the bible like a common story book without making any sense out of it. Faith and a meek heart that will not be carried away by one's level of education and/or civilization are some of other factors. So you now see why many think bible teachings are out of date!


Pitiful. I don't know why i pity you because i shouldn't really care what crap you want to believe. But i do.



Honestly I'm not to be pitied but to be envied that a book written over 2000 years ago is still doing wonders in my life proving science wrong even in this 21st century. Pls get me right,I'm not saying science is not benefial to mankind. But God proves it wrong many times to keep manifesting His glory to the children of men and my life is a typical example. That is why,online or offline,I cannot marry a wrong woman,not without using my brain anyway.


galendgirl's photo
Fri 09/02/11 07:03 AM


Guess I'm having supporters here. The problem is that people all over the world are being carried away by their level of technological advancements rather than their Godly spiritual entities which is timeless and far greater than millions of technology which fades with time!


"Godly spirit" precludes "doormat."

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/02/11 07:09 AM
its hard for me to imagine God and Doormat in the same sentence,,,,,but thats just me

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 07:24 AM

why?

does our technological advances mean we have learned more about what is important or just learned more about how to make our lives 'easier'?



Trust you. Jst hope somebody will answer that question correctly and without any prejudice. Among other things we have have failed to learn despite the level of our technlogical development is the sanctity of marriage. We just don't understand it hence we experience divorce and separation and failures in many of our marriages and we still believe we know more than the people of old who used bible as their guide and succeeded in most of their marriages. God will deliver this generation from the veil of technology which is giving many people reprobate minds!

ojofolorunso's photo
Fri 09/02/11 08:01 AM



Guess I'm having supporters here. The problem is that people all over the world are being carried away by their level of technological advancements rather than their Godly spiritual entities which is timeless and far greater than millions of technology which fades with time!


"Godly spirit" precludes "doormat."



Of course if you must carry the Spirit of God,you must be humble. You must be as gentle as the dove and as wise as the serpent. Thus,it is expected that in marital relationship you show mutual respect to each other as partners in progress,honour yourselves. When one is hot,let the other be cold and vice-versa. Learn to overlook things,pretend as if your partner has not made that mistake and don't complain everytime. Learn to say sorry,be ready to apologise and say thank you as the case may be,for sustainability. Above all,recognise God as the ruler of your home just as the man is the head of the family and let the man always seek suggestions from his wife as in always plan together. The husband is not in isolation of his wife and otherwise... So if you now call all this as being 'doormat' then I agree so long it gives me peace in my marriage and it keeps it going!

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/02/11 12:55 PM

The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


I think that it's useless to discuss a biblical issue with people who reject the Bible as being authoritative. Perhaps this topic would be better suited in some kind of religious forum.