Topic: one wonders why submission has to be enforced on us , women
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Wed 08/24/11 08:20 PM

As I had stated earlier there are some women that also excel in the science fields, yes a man can also be artistic and creative, myself included, as I love to create in the kitchen, I also like to clean, something about turning chaos into order.

We should also keep in mind men and woman are both a part of the other, men are able to gain insight into their feminine side as a woman can be in touch with their male side, as we come from both the male and female.

As to the question of gender roles in a marriage, woman in general still look to the male as protector and, I have heard a lot of woman complaining about their men not acting like a man, like my ex use to tell me if she wanted a woman she would of been with a woman, men are expected by society to be more aggressive then woman, this is one reasons there are so few female ceo's, men have a more cutthroat mentality when it comes to business, it is all about winning for us men.

Sorry about the long wait for reply, I am on my job.


So, the only role that you think is gender related in a relationship is being the protector? Ok.

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Wed 08/24/11 08:30 PM
Edited by miko1960 on Wed 08/24/11 08:30 PM
Well of coarse in matters of intimacy, or as I like to refer to it as getting me some yum yum:banana: :banana:

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Wed 08/24/11 08:31 PM
You have to protect her during intimacy? huh

miko1960's photo
Wed 08/24/11 08:36 PM
From the creepy crawly things.

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Wed 08/24/11 08:48 PM
OK

this has gotten either very weird

or extremely funny

I am just not sure whichsurprised

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Wed 08/24/11 08:50 PM
I'll go with very weird. scared

laugh

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Wed 08/24/11 08:55 PM

I'll go with very weird. scared

laugh


I was afraid of that

never thought of myself as a yum yum

quite honestly...noway

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Wed 08/24/11 09:42 PM

The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ?


Wrong place to ask this question. slaphead slaphead slaphead

miko1960's photo
Wed 08/24/11 10:25 PM
Can't we all just get alongflowerforyou flowerforyou

Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/24/11 10:37 PM
Well, since I have spiritually outgrown the bible and it's "too old" teachings, I cannot comprehend the antiquated views in it. And have difficulty comprehending that a woman would want to live by it's almost anti woman sentiment.

That said, that is me, not everyone else. I am unique.

I have done so much work on myself spiritually and emotionally that I have surpassed the average on some levels. Not everyone even wants to go that far with the work on themselves. It is easier to just let a book tell you what is right or wrong then having to analyze each incident individually for right or wrongness at all levels for others and for myself.

To each their own as they say and no judgement from me.

But I still cannot understand how submitting to anyone can be a healthy situation for a relationship that builds both parties esteem.

Blackito's photo
Wed 08/24/11 11:10 PM

A relationship is give and take.
Love is to be shared.

Holding love because she is not submissive is very bad action.

Before asking a women to be submissive she has to feel secure, love and trust that you will never abuse of such autority to tell her to do things that will make her suffer or that she may regret.

In my previous relationship I noticed that the women who was really submissive was the one I was giving most sincere love and I wasn,t never trying to dictate her but at the contrary we were discussing and she would almost always do what I wanted since I sincerely wanted the best for us and she could tell.



I want to remind most men that a women is intelligent, loving, worth to be loved and to be respected.
Even if she decides to be submissive.. If you don't let her discuss with you and give her opinion you are not having a wife than. It is a big mistake because the WOMEN have so much to give INTELLECTUALLY ALSO....



From a man who knows a women to become a wife she has to be your PARTNER, FRIEND AND LOVE ONE.


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Wed 08/24/11 11:28 PM

Following the bible is not healthy for a woman. I would not suggest it if they want to have self respect and self worth.

The bible doesn't allow for it for a woman alone, she only gets her value from a man.


not entirely true


1 Corinthians 7:8 ESV / 96 helpful votes
To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am.


1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV / 50 helpful votes
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.


The bible places no inferior status to a woman or a man for remaining single. It places our value in how we live our life, not in whether we do it with a partner.

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Wed 08/24/11 11:29 PM

The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful.

comes anything God remain thesame and He knows the end from the begining ,anybody who doesn't obey His word had lost

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Wed 08/24/11 11:33 PM

submission doesnt require a woman to not think for themself or speak their minds

it requires respect for the husband


That depends on the husband. respect and demands are separate. My ex pulled that submissive BIBLICAL Quotes on me Several TIMES...and what a loser he is. . .

I hate hypocritical religious people who quote you scriptures and live secret evil lives inside your household. People who manipulate the words of JESUS CHRIST to benefit themselves at their convenience while they completely disregard all the other stuff in the bible.

So will I be submissive to my husband, Hell no, will I respect him and please him to his favor, Of course just as he will do me...

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Wed 08/24/11 11:34 PM


A relationship is give and take.
Love is to be shared.

Holding love because she is not submissive is very bad action.

Before asking a women to be submissive she has to feel secure, love and trust that you will never abuse of such autority to tell her to do things that will make her suffer or that she may regret.

In my previous relationship I noticed that the women who was really submissive was the one I was giving most sincere love and I wasn,t never trying to dictate her but at the contrary we were discussing and she would almost always do what I wanted since I sincerely wanted the best for us and she could tell.



I want to remind most men that a women is intelligent, loving, worth to be loved and to be respected.
Even if she decides to be submissive.. If you don't let her discuss with you and give her opinion you are not having a wife than. It is a big mistake because the WOMEN have so much to give INTELLECTUALLY ALSO....



From a man who knows a women to become a wife she has to be your PARTNER, FRIEND AND LOVE ONE.





IF you were to move in with someone (Take the marital status out) and you did not have a JOB and they provided all the financial support for your wants and needs,,, would you feel you should have EQUAL say in that household?


ITs a matter of common sense, to me, and its a function of what each persons RESPONSIBILITIES earns them in each situation.

You cannot ASK someone to be submissive, dominant. These are both parts of who we are just as we are all part of a man and a woman.
Some extremes exist where people choose expression of exclusively their submissive side and some where they exclusively dominate. But there is no ABSOLUTE here, nor should there be. Just as children sometimes TEACH parents but it is the parents RESPONSIBILITY to teach the child. Rarely can two or more people find AGREEMENT in everying and someone will have to be the first one to come up with the ANSWER that the other agrees to. This is the nature of a relationship.

I am more of a submissive(when the condition is right with a responsible and trustworthy partner) than a dominant because I dont wish the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with being responsible for someone else. I prefer letting a responsible person who ENJOYS doing that do so, becuase, despite popular belief,, there are very few situations where SOMEONE doesnt eventually take the lead and make a decision before everyone else does...whether we call it an agreement or not.

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Wed 08/24/11 11:52 PM


submission doesnt require a woman to not think for themself or speak their minds

it requires respect for the husband


That depends on the husband. respect and demands are separate. My ex pulled that submissive BIBLICAL Quotes on me Several TIMES...and what a loser he is. . .

I hate hypocritical religious people who quote you scriptures and live secret evil lives inside your household. People who manipulate the words of JESUS CHRIST to benefit themselves at their convenience while they completely disregard all the other stuff in the bible.

So will I be submissive to my husband, Hell no, will I respect him and please him to his favor, Of course just as he will do me...

hi, note this and never make this mistake again anybody who doesn't use the words of God is not a christian - Luk 6:46-49
and if you don't play your own role you sinned again God - Rom 14:12

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Thu 08/25/11 12:44 AM



submission doesnt require a woman to not think for themself or speak their minds

it requires respect for the husband


That depends on the husband. respect and demands are separate. My ex pulled that submissive BIBLICAL Quotes on me Several TIMES...and what a loser he is. . .

I hate hypocritical religious people who quote you scriptures and live secret evil lives inside your household. People who manipulate the words of JESUS CHRIST to benefit themselves at their convenience while they completely disregard all the other stuff in the bible.

So will I be submissive to my husband, Hell no, will I respect him and please him to his favor, Of course just as he will do me...

hi, note this and never make this mistake again anybody who doesn't use the words of God is not a christian - Luk 6:46-49
and if you don't play your own role you sinned again God - Rom 14:12


yes, i agree

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Thu 08/25/11 12:54 AM
I like what was brought up with the words of 'inner feminism'. I once tried to get in touch with my feminine side. And guess, what. She didn't like to be submissive, either. laugh

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Thu 08/25/11 01:01 AM
Which I thought was funny once because I was talking to this woman and she told me that she was my feminine side which really confused me.laugh

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Thu 08/25/11 01:05 AM
To be sincere a woman can be submissive to her husband biblical ,his husband will love her ,even with that she's gonna change the husand if he is not Godly..... 1pet 3:1-5 it's a matter of time because we do change by our nature.