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| Topic: one wonders why submission has to be enforced on us , women | |
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The Bible commands that husbands should love their wives and wives submit to their husbands.men who love their wives don-t have to remind them to be submissive,its only those who withhold their love from their wives who struggle.women respond very well to love .lets hear from men ,wht do you think ? Whatever your views on religion and God, the bible is written by man. Ever play the game telephone? Now imagine playing it with millions of people over the course of 1000 years and using different languages. The bible was written by men, and it was in their best interest to have submissive women. For the true believers....lets say your wife, gf, or significant other went on a trip for 3 monthes by herself, she comes back and 1 month later you both find out she's 2 months pregnant. Would you really buy her story if she told you it was immaculate conception? Finally, the voice of reasoning. 
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thanks, but you have em up now, so its cool. Can you fix the ones in my friday thread??? please... Done :-) |
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AND KLC WINS IT BY A NOSE..... (and she paid, 75-1) Yeeee Hawwww!! What is with my nose today?  
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Go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  
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Go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. And how far up your rear would you like me to shove it? 
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On a more serious note, this is an interesting perspective relevant to the topic at hand. The English starts after about a minute and a half.
This is not for the faint of heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6bFR4_Ppk8 |
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It is to the advantage of the person who can make others believe he/she should be the dominant in a relationship. So naturally if it can be done by those who like to manipulate others, they will do it.
Using the bible for this purpose is a very tried and true method for those who believe the bible to be more than a book of stories. If a person asks another person to be subservient, submissive in a non "playful" (sexual) manner, the person they are asking should high tail it to the hills and never look back because that person is a manipulator which essentially means they will do anything ANYTHING to get their way in life. You will be just a stepping stone/means to an end/etc... It is one of the greatest warning signs of a playa/manipulator there is. Heed it well. |
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On a more serious note, this is an interesting perspective relevant to the topic at hand. The English starts after about a minute and a half. This is not for the faint of heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6bFR4_Ppk8 
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her husband sounds like an insecure abusive man, similar to the millions in america,,,,
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And you know to really answer the title of this thread.....
Submission is only forced on us women if we allow it to be done to us. So either allow it for whatever reason or do not. It sure is a terrible place to be imo....submissive that is (except in the sexual sense of course). |
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By not submitting Queen Elizabeth kept peace in England for many years. Her nephew, King James believed in the right of Kings. His mother, Mary Queen of Scotts was very religious. Queen Elizabeth's father, King Henry decapitated wives. All Queen Elizabeth had to do was not get married so she won by non-submission.  I think we all submit , whether the word is welcomed or not. To submit in a marriage is merely another environment for us to make that choice, IT does not mean we must or will allow ourself to be degraded or consider ourself less than in terms of human significance. It is BEST to stay single and submit only to God and whatever authority is set up in the land(so long as it doesnt CONFLICT with Gods authority) it is never good to put anyone ABOVE us because that places someone in between us and God it is great to put someone BESIDE us and be confident and trusting enough to acknowledge their strengths and passions for ME, I am passionate about loving, nurturing, housekeeping, cooking,,,,I am capable but not passionate about taking responsibility for others, having to protect others, or having to provide for others. A man who was passionate about those things I am not, who cherished me and appreciated those things I was passionate about, would find me glad to submit to them those responsibilities and authority over those areas of our family unit that comes along with taking those responsibilities... Nicely spoken Msharmony |
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Go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. And how far up your rear would you like me to shove it?
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... |
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date. |
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wives are expected to submit , but not women submit to men
its like an employee may submit to the authority of their boss, within the confines of THAT relationship but not outside that relationship similarly, within the confine of a marital relationship, a wife submits to the husband but outside of being married, it is not required for women to submit to men |
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... |
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date. 'He who receives a prophet as a prophet shall get the reward of a prophet...' and vice-versa. For one to get the latest and current information from the bible,she/he must be truly born again having received Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and saviour. She/he must also depend solely on the Holy Spirit to interprete the most uptodate information,to run daily affairs,even out of the so-called obsolete biblical injunctions,for her/he. Otherwise you'll only be reading the bible like a common story book without making any sense out of it. Faith and a meek heart that will not be carried away by one's level of education and/or civilization are some of other factors. So you now see why many think bible teachings are out of date! |
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date. 'He who receives a prophet as a prophet shall get the reward of a prophet...' and vice-versa. For one to get the latest and current information from the bible,she/he must be truly born again having received Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and saviour. She/he must also depend solely on the Holy Spirit to interprete the most uptodate information,to run daily affairs,even out of the so-called obsolete biblical injunctions,for her/he. Otherwise you'll only be reading the bible like a common story book without making any sense out of it. Faith and a meek heart that will not be carried away by one's level of education and/or civilization are some of other factors. So you now see why many think bible teachings are out of date! Pitiful. I don't know why i pity you because i shouldn't really care what crap you want to believe. But i do. |
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wives are expected to submit , but not women submit to men its like an employee may submit to the authority of their boss, within the confines of THAT relationship but not outside that relationship similarly, within the confine of a marital relationship, a wife submits to the husband but outside of being married, it is not required for women to submit to men Only men who want an advantage would even requests some crap like that. Treating women as less then so they will be under their control. It is bullshyte that any woman would fall for it. And the bible is not written for the health and well being of women. It was written as an instruction manual used to control men out of fear of retribution. Women are just property in that book. |
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The bible was written a very long time ago and people should realise that much of it doesn't apply to modern society. Many believers will disagree and choose to live in a way that is not best for them or their happiness. I find it very pitiful. The Holy Bible might have been written a very long time ago but I make bold to say it yet remains the most current and uptodate information material ever produced in this world. No matter what,it can't go out of date and times. On the issue of submission by women,since d Bible commanded it,it becomes a divine instruction which must be adhered to but men too are biblically expected to reciprocate this by showing respect and providing for the needs of their wives. They are expected to treat their wives with care and tenderness... How is it current and up to date? Much of what is in the bible is out of date. Agreed but try ALL OF IT IS OUT OF DATE that is more accurate. It is silly to think that 2000 years ago men knew better than we do today 
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