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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 01/19/12 05:26 PM
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so let us, from here on out, PRESUME that the words posted in these forums are OPINIONS . even those the poster thinks are facts and let us continue being able to share said OPINIONS with others,,,  Where religion is concerned I was attempting to demonstrate the difference between an opinion or a difference of opinion and PREACHING. I see so much preaching here, and I can see the difference between preaching and having a discussion. Msharmony you discuss and offers opinions. Your posts don't appear to be preachy. Cowboy seems to mostly be preaching or debating, although he denies it constantly. Where Christianity is concerned, Morningsong, (who has left Mingle) mostly preaches. Of course they both call it "Spreading the good news."  |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 01/19/12 05:31 PM
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I deal with it two ways
1. knowing that it takes two to argue, and 2. preachers cant preach without an audience to preach to I also remain cognizant to the reality that many many people only read the forums without contributing, and sometimes those two way dialogues which seem to go nowhere, may actually be opening up conversations or offering opinions to others BESIDE those involved in the discussion (I have actually been engaged in discussion in emails from those who havent posted but read the thread ) so in that sense, as annoying as it gets for those involved, it still may be serving a significant purpose for those just observing |
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Again, we're not "preaching". Not the believers, not the non-believers. Yes we are 100% convinced in all our different beliefs, but that doesn't mean you can't be kind and the respect to understand this and respect their belief, even if they are not yours. It is 100% impossible to convert any person over the internet, so why would one try? Again, we're all just here sharing and discussing our beliefs and differences in a kind respectful way. You can say that you are NOT PREACHING a million billions times Cowboy, but preaching is preaching and you and Morningsong both preach! Preaching is when you state your case as if it is the gospel truth and as if you are the teacher of that truth. THAT IS NOT DISCUSSING. Preaching is when you are 100% convinced that you are right and the other person is wrong and everything they tell you that is different from what you believe is wrong and so you don't listen or even consider their point. You just come back and disagree and correct them as if you are teaching them how wrong they are or how much they just don't listen or understand. It is 100% impossible to convert any person over the internet, so why would one try? I think you should ask yourself that question. You have shown over and over that you don't listen or even consider what anyone else thinks, you simply want to inflict your beliefs on them as if they are 100% true. You are not a teacher, you are not a preacher, you are not even a student. I don't understand why you continue. What is your motivation? What is your purpose? You don't seem to learn anything new, you just keep espousing your own world view and posting scripture at people in the hope someone will agree with your interpretations. So what do you get out of doing that? You must be getting something out of it. I don't respect other people's beliefs. I only respect them and their right to think what ever they want to think. Can I use this when you are preaching on conspiracy theories? I'll reference this post.. |
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Where religion is concerned I was attempting to demonstrate the difference between an opinion or a difference of opinion and PREACHING. in religion if you are under a command then it's preaching if you're not under a command then it's an opinion under a command you are not there to offer a simple opinion, you are commanded to offer "The Only Truth" Jesus gave a command for his followers to spread the word which in Hebrew and Klingon means to Preach Jesus said if you love me then you will obey me which means if a follower of Jesus is here doing anything but preaching, then they are in turn giving testimony as to how they do not love Jesus |
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Jesus gave a command for his followers to spread the word which in Hebrew and Klingon means to Preach Jesus said if you love me then you will obey me which means if a follower of Jesus is here doing anything but preaching, then they are in turn giving testimony as to how they do not love Jesus This is a common fallacy. When Jesus said "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature", he was talking to his apostles, not to every reader. After the initial spread of Christianity by the apostles, Christianity was to spread by example "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid." |
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This is a common fallacy. When Jesus said "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature", he was talking to his apostles, not to every reader. yes I bet you think that those same Apostles are still alive today going around ringing people door bells early in the morning asking them do they want to buy (tithes)a Watch Tower if one claim to be a Christian you supposedly show it in works not sitting on ones butt |
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yes I bet you think that those same Apostles are still alive today going around ringing people door bells early in the morning asking them do they want to buy (tithes)a Watch Tower No, I don't. if one claim to be a Christian you supposedly show it in works True. not sitting on ones butt I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. being physically disable wouldn't mean that you can't speak and preach, or blink and preach or preach in sign language or preach the word using braille ...so using the disable as an example as to why you may not follow the command of Jesus is not an excuse |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. apparently going to church is no longer a requirement either |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. being physically disable wouldn't mean that you can't speak and preach, or blink and preach or preach in sign language or preach the word using braille ...so using the disable as an example as to why you may not follow the command of Jesus is not an excuse I already covered this, Jesus didn't tell everyone to spread the gospel, just his apostles. |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. apparently going to church is no longer a requirement either It's never been a requirement. |
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Edited by
funches
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Fri 01/20/12 10:01 AM
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I already covered this, Jesus didn't tell everyone to spread the gospel, just his apostles. Apostles are disciples and Jesus command them to make diciples of all nations ......so once again if you don't believe those same 12 apostles are still alive ringing people door bells...then he was also commanding you to preach |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. apparently going to church is no longer a requirement either It's never been a requirement. it's not a requirement for a Christian to go to church to learn the bible but yet Christians try to make it a requirement that the bible be taught in public school |
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I already covered this, Jesus didn't tell everyone to spread the gospel, just his apostles. Apostles are disciples and Jesus command them to make diciples of all nations ......so once again if you don't believe those same 12 apostles are still alive ring people door bells...then he was also commanding you to preach That doesn't follow. Once again, you think in False Dilemma fallacies. After the initial spread of Christianity by the apostles, Christianity was supposed to spread by example, not word. |
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I don't see what that has to do with it. Are you saying that the physically disabled can't be Christians? I don't remember being able to walk being a requirement to be a Christian. apparently going to church is no longer a requirement either It's never been a requirement. it's not a requirement for a Christian to go to church to learn the bible but yet Christians try to make it a requirement that the bible be taught in public school I don't know of any who want that. You can't just make up crap and get angry about it. |
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That doesn't follow. Once again, you think in False Dilemma fallacies. After the initial spread of Christianity by the apostles, Christianity was supposed to spread by example, not word. aren't those "False Dilmemma fallacies" you keep mentioning the reason why you you need faith ..but anyway.... "spread by example" mean do the same as your savior ..unless of course you don't consider Jesus to be an exanple |
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I don't know of any who want that. You can't just make up crap and get angry about it. you mean like claiming that 3=1 just so that you won't be accused of worshipping three Gods |
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That doesn't follow. Once again, you think in False Dilemma fallacies. After the initial spread of Christianity by the apostles, Christianity was supposed to spread by example, not word. aren't those "False Dilmemma fallacies" you keep mentioning the reason why you you need faith ..but anyway.... "spread by example" mean do the same as your savior ..unless of course you don't consider Jesus to be an exanple Another false Dilemma Fallacy! The law of averages insists that you must be making them on purpose, nobody can stumble into the same fallacy on accident so many times. "Spread by example" means "live a good life that other's will want to emulate". Christians can't live Jesus' life, we're not perfect. |
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I don't know of any who want that. You can't just make up crap and get angry about it. you mean like claiming that 3=1 just so that you won't be accused of worshipping three Gods Clearly a tripod is three different things, right? |
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Another false Dilemma Fallacy! The law of averages insists that you must be making them on purpose, nobody can stumble into the same fallacy on accident so many times. Spidercmb....er...I'm not sure that someone such as yourself that believe in talking serpents and talking burning bushes should use the term "false Dilemma Fallacy" to anyone but theirself so according to those laws of averages what are the odds of running into a real "talking gecko" like the one in that Geico television commercial |
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