perhaps what Murder is, is a story best told by the intented Victim ...all you are doing is proving how your religion is a haven for murderers and serial killers

That's a good way to envision a creator, but many humans tend to believe that THEY are the center (egocentricity)of their god's focus.

The egocentric view maintains that humans are the supreme caretakers of the Earthly environment and that their god caters to them in that capacity.

Yet that view is problematic because we have enough evidence to believe that if humans destroy themselves, taking half of all existing creatures with them, that 'nature' will find a balance in the devastation, and develop another biodiverse environment in which new creatures and new plants will thrive.

Jesse Jackson recently said that people of faith "live in their faith under the law" of the land in which they reside. In other words, it is more important to live by the morals of one's faith in harmony with the laws that provide the moral structure of civil live than it is to structure the law of the land around only one set of religious morals.

Jesse Jackson and many other believers feel the same way, as do many deists, agnostics, and atheists. That should be 'nature's way' for clearly we are more subjects to nature, within this evnironment, than we are of any creator outside of the environment.

Perhaps that's the way it was intended to be. Perhaps the real test, if a god intended one, is how well humans can exist in harmony with the the environment in which they have been placed.

No, for the people of this world do not have the right to murder/judge anyone in that sort of way. We do not have the right to decide who lives or who dies. The people carrying out the death penalty are just as guilty of murder as the one(s) that did the crime.

You don't "give up" your will. You make your will one with the father's will. Yes I do have to eat and sleep to survive, never said any different. But I do not do these things automatically without thought. I decide when I eat and what I eat. I don't just do it because I'm programmed that way. I choose to eat, it is my will to eat or not eat.

it's not up to you or your god or a serial killer as to the reason they have to murder someone or to deny that it's murder...that is up to the intended victim as to what it is

Cowboy......it's not what you choose to eat as long as it's organic, it's the fact that you have no choice but to eat if you want to live ...your body has been programmed to do this...as a religious anti-suicidal person you have no other option but to carry out this programming .....

That's not the same thing, nor what we're talking about. A micro orgasnism doesn't "think" about what it's doing. It just naturally does it without thought, without will. If a cell had a "will", a person's body would not function correctly. Some cells would get up one morning and be like "well I don't feel like work'n today, think I'll just take the day off".

We are not programmed this way. We choose to do what we do. Even when it comes down to eating. You choose to eat if you wish to survive, you don't just naturally do that without thought. And no it's not that your body has been "programmed" this way. Your body needs it's different nutrients for the different bodily functions. It doesn't just want the different nutrients through "programming" it needs those nutrients to function.

It is only murder if it is unlawful. If it is according to the law, it is not murder. Murder and killing are two different things. You can never murder an animal with the exception of killing an animal of an endangered species that is protected by law, for again it would be unlawful. But take deer hunting for instance. In the deer hunting season time, if one kills a deer it could not possibly be "murder". But it could be seen that way outside of the hunting season, thus people are fined and what not for hunting outside of the season.

you finally understand "faith"

I'm sure the intended murder victim wouldn't agree with you as to what constitute as being murder, they wouldn't care if those that were trying to take their life had a lawful reason or not

what you are doing is trying to use your religion to justify the taking of a life simply because that life choose not to follow with your religious point of view due to a character that you can't even prove exist beyond a book ...what you fail to understand is that this type of mentality could constitute as being psychotic and/or evil

Can you ever give anyone credit for something w/o your myth being involved.Humans can use their brain and invent things w/o your myth having something to do with it.Exactly wheres the free will if God is in every invention?
This is actually patheitic when a Jesus freak claims that God has something to do with technology.Wow some people are just gone from reality and created their own.

Technically, God has something to do with everything by the sheer creation. He does not interfere with what gets invented nor does he propel anything, because good choices and bad choices are made by all on a daily basis. Why wouldn't anything made in god's image not wish to create when god so definitely wished to create himself?

Why wasn't everything created today created 2,000 years ago then?Know why cause people would have been persecuted for it.It would have been considered the work of the devil.

What would have been left for mankind to create and occupy the humanmind if it all had been created a billion years ago??

Man wasn't around billions of years ago.You're avioiding the point that if it wasn't for the Jesus and God mythology of the past technology and medicine would be far more advanced then it is today.

No you are missing the point, I know man wasn't around a billion years a go to the latest dating approximately 4.4 billion years ago and that could be because any bone remnants beyond that may be dust by now. It's not because of jesus and god that medicines and etc are held back but by the human mind of not allowing the possibilities because how they view god. god and jesus never held any one back only set forth a set of rules to live by. How does do not lie, murder, gltuonize stop advances seem to me it is medicinal preventive maintenance.

The Abrahamic myythology is no different than the Greek,Roman,Babylonian,Sumerian,Semtic,Pagan mythology.The only difference is instead of there being many Gods it's narrowed down to 1 god.
Believe what you want Sea the truth is out there just some are to deep to get back up.

I meant 4.4 million

Just hope that you are right when revelations comes, because if your wrong god help you. If I am right what have I lost except I lived my life to a set of rules that really aren't harmful to anyone else. As for me and my jesus will be our saviour. The commandments never hurt us.

Ok thats fine but i'll leave you with this the Fossil Hominids display in Oklahoma show the evolution of man so then i would have to say if God created man in his own image then God is an ape.I'm going back to playing Diablo 3 now.