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Topic: Is there a god or nature which nourishes us
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Mon 05/14/12 08:29 PM

And God made the possibility of the creation of that technology.


that are duplicating the technology in his his space ship after he, Jesus and the holy spirit crashed landed in Roswell ...two of them didn't make it ...one of them was in Alien Autopsy

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Mon 05/14/12 08:34 PM


And God made the possibility of the creation of that technology.


that are duplicating the technology in his his space ship after he, Jesus and the holy spirit crashed landed in Roswell ...two of them didn't make it ...one of them was in Alien Autopsy


lol.

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Mon 05/14/12 08:42 PM

Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


yes it does...that's why your God can do anything he wish to do in the bible and why the other characters in the bible can't ....

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Mon 05/14/12 08:56 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Mon 05/14/12 08:56 PM
God used free will on the windows he chose to open and release the ocean up in the sky to flood the earth...i heard he used aluminum PGT Low E insulated impact glass windows the 3000 series.Those type of windows can withstand firmament pressure.

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Mon 05/14/12 08:57 PM


Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


yes it does...that's why your God can do anything he wish to do in the bible and why the other characters in the bible can't ....



????

Who couldn't do something other then what they wished to do? And how do you know they didn't choose to do it? You can do anything, you have free will. You can sit here and continue to debate about God, or you could go use the restroom if you wish, or sit down and have a snack. You choose what YOU do and when you do it, thus free will.

We are not automatically programmed robots or puppets on a string. We choose what we do, when we do it, and how we wish to do it. That is ALL free will is, is your choice to make your will what you wish.

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Mon 05/14/12 09:10 PM
I also heard that God was gonna only flood the desert but he got upset cause Home Depot actually had to charge a delivery fee on the lumber cause of Noah being way out in a desert so God flooded the entire earth.

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Mon 05/14/12 09:11 PM
Hey i'm using my free will making up stories like the hebrews

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Tue 05/15/12 05:13 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts

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Tue 05/15/12 11:53 AM

POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts
i almost did this exact samething you did but i left you the honorsdrinker

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Tue 05/15/12 05:20 PM

Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.

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Tue 05/15/12 06:23 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 05/15/12 06:40 PM


Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.
Hmmm so when believers use science to prove what science has already proven then that gives them the right to say "see dirt has some of the elements thats in the human body so God could've made man from it"
I for one am not ever going to accept the theory of the big bang came from nothing because matter had something to do with it cause matter creates energy and the bing bang was energy.So matter is constantly creating and destroying itself with that typed it has existed longer than the bing bang.So where did that matter come from?Give it time someone will figure that out.

Now i will add people are going to say that "no way it's the laws of science or physics"...well if you go back in history,the present and even the future,science has proven science to be wrong and the same with physics,physics has proven physics to be wrong.Well lets go more with incorrect.

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Tue 05/15/12 06:56 PM



Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.
Hmmm so when believers use science to prove what science has already proven then that gives them the right to say "see dirt has some of the elements thats in the human body so God could've made man from it"
I for one am not ever going to accept the theory of the big bang came from nothing because matter had something to do with it cause matter creates energy and the bing bang was energy.So matter is constantly creating and destroying itself with that typed it has existed longer than the bing bang.So where did that matter come from?Give it time someone will figure that out.

Now i will add people are going to say that "no way it's the laws of science or physics"...well if you go back in history,the present and even the future,science has proven science to be wrong and the same with physics,physics has proven physics to be wrong.Well lets go more with incorrect.


That matter had to come from somewhere or something.....in my heart I know Jesus Christ is my saviour and I know he exists I do not need to touch him or see him.......I feel him he walks with me and upholds me......

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Tue 05/15/12 08:33 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Tue 05/15/12 08:39 PM




Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.
Hmmm so when believers use science to prove what science has already proven then that gives them the right to say "see dirt has some of the elements thats in the human body so God could've made man from it"
I for one am not ever going to accept the theory of the big bang came from nothing because matter had something to do with it cause matter creates energy and the bing bang was energy.So matter is constantly creating and destroying itself with that typed it has existed longer than the bing bang.So where did that matter come from?Give it time someone will figure that out.

Now i will add people are going to say that "no way it's the laws of science or physics"...well if you go back in history,the present and even the future,science has proven science to be wrong and the same with physics,physics has proven physics to be wrong.Well lets go more with incorrect.


That matter had to come from somewhere or something.....in my heart I know Jesus Christ is my saviour and I know he exists I do not need to touch him or see him.......I feel him he walks with me and upholds me......


Awesome, Seakolony!


All matter is created by God!


16"For by him were all things created,

that are in heaven, and that are in earth,

visible and invisible,

whether they be thrones, or dominions,

or principalities, or powers:

all things were created by him, and for him:


17And he is before all things,

and by him all things consist.


Colossians 1:16,17 kjv





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Wed 05/16/12 05:20 AM





Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.
Hmmm so when believers use science to prove what science has already proven then that gives them the right to say "see dirt has some of the elements thats in the human body so God could've made man from it"
I for one am not ever going to accept the theory of the big bang came from nothing because matter had something to do with it cause matter creates energy and the bing bang was energy.So matter is constantly creating and destroying itself with that typed it has existed longer than the bing bang.So where did that matter come from?Give it time someone will figure that out.

Now i will add people are going to say that "no way it's the laws of science or physics"...well if you go back in history,the present and even the future,science has proven science to be wrong and the same with physics,physics has proven physics to be wrong.Well lets go more with incorrect.


That matter had to come from somewhere or something.....in my heart I know Jesus Christ is my saviour and I know he exists I do not need to touch him or see him.......I feel him he walks with me and upholds me......


Awesome, Seakolony!


All matter is created by God!


16"For by him were all things created,

that are in heaven, and that are in earth,

visible and invisible,

whether they be thrones, or dominions,

or principalities, or powers:

all things were created by him, and for him:


17And he is before all things,

and by him all things consist.


Colossians 1:16,17 kjv





Yep well Ardi and Lucy proves your 6,000 year old creation theory and God wrong.Yet i'm sure you have no idea of what they are,i'm sure you'll google it.And guess what both of them are real you can actually see them and it's evidence.

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Wed 05/16/12 05:35 AM
@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.

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Wed 05/16/12 06:33 AM

POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts


As always, taking things out of context.

Quote 1 - Free will doesn't give you the right to do just anything you wish, even if it's a possibility of doing it. Just because God gave us free will, doesn't mean you can go kill someone. Free will, just means you have a conscience thought to your actions. You're not a preprogrammed robot that has to do certain things no matter what.

Quote 2 - You can do anything you wish" as in you have the possiblity of doing any number of different things if you wish. You are not restricted to only being able to do certain things in a literal sense, as in you have the capability of doing them. That doesn't mean you have the right to do them, just the capability.


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Wed 05/16/12 06:37 AM






Bro theory of evolution includes elements like carbon hydrogen oxygen combination with each other

Theory of God states none of those elements would exist without creation of said substances. Theory of God stated let there be light it appeared and it was good. The big bang theory creates a magical explosion in which light is created. Sounds very similar the scientific and celestial explanations to me. Actually, sounds exact. On the second day god created the heavens and the earth and saw it was good. The big bang theory never explains the days or process in which it took for creation to start. In the celestial it never states exactly how long one of God's days is time wise.
Hmmm so when believers use science to prove what science has already proven then that gives them the right to say "see dirt has some of the elements thats in the human body so God could've made man from it"
I for one am not ever going to accept the theory of the big bang came from nothing because matter had something to do with it cause matter creates energy and the bing bang was energy.So matter is constantly creating and destroying itself with that typed it has existed longer than the bing bang.So where did that matter come from?Give it time someone will figure that out.

Now i will add people are going to say that "no way it's the laws of science or physics"...well if you go back in history,the present and even the future,science has proven science to be wrong and the same with physics,physics has proven physics to be wrong.Well lets go more with incorrect.


That matter had to come from somewhere or something.....in my heart I know Jesus Christ is my saviour and I know he exists I do not need to touch him or see him.......I feel him he walks with me and upholds me......


Awesome, Seakolony!


All matter is created by God!


16"For by him were all things created,

that are in heaven, and that are in earth,

visible and invisible,

whether they be thrones, or dominions,

or principalities, or powers:

all things were created by him, and for him:


17And he is before all things,

and by him all things consist.


Colossians 1:16,17 kjv





Yep well Ardi and Lucy proves your 6,000 year old creation theory and God wrong.Yet i'm sure you have no idea of what they are,i'm sure you'll google it.And guess what both of them are real you can actually see them and it's evidence.



Yep well Ardi and Lucy proves your 6,000 year old creation theory and God wrong


How so? Just because one may think they have "evidence" doesn't automatically make it a proven fact, without a doubt.

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Wed 05/16/12 06:39 AM
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

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Wed 05/16/12 09:04 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Wed 05/16/12 09:17 AM

But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.
Actually the entire 3 volumes of the Abrahamic religion saga is written by mans hands not God or even Jesus.

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Wed 05/16/12 09:16 AM


But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


They aren't "opinions" specifically. They are recorded events. For it not to be "something handed down from a person" God would have to reveal himself every year. Why should he have to? What does it matter if it's experienced first hand or handed down? Because obviously things that are not first hand experienced holds a lot of water, it convicts people of crimes every day. And not claiming God is as falable as the court of law, just specifically the not first hand part.

God would make an appearance every year if it was something to gain for him. God has nothing to gain from us in that way, God has everything, he created everything.

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