Topic: Is there a god or nature which nourishes us
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Wed 05/16/12 09:23 AM



But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


They aren't "opinions" specifically. They are recorded events. For it not to be "something handed down from a person" God would have to reveal himself every year. Why should he have to? What does it matter if it's experienced first hand or handed down? Because obviously things that are not first hand experienced holds a lot of water, it convicts people of crimes every day. And not claiming God is as falable as the court of law, just specifically the not first hand part.

God would make an appearance every year if it was something to gain for him. God has nothing to gain from us in that way, God has everything, he created everything.
Yeah Zeus,Ra and Anu supposively created everything too.Until polytheism took a step back to let monotheism in.

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Wed 05/16/12 09:29 AM




But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


They aren't "opinions" specifically. They are recorded events. For it not to be "something handed down from a person" God would have to reveal himself every year. Why should he have to? What does it matter if it's experienced first hand or handed down? Because obviously things that are not first hand experienced holds a lot of water, it convicts people of crimes every day. And not claiming God is as falable as the court of law, just specifically the not first hand part.

God would make an appearance every year if it was something to gain for him. God has nothing to gain from us in that way, God has everything, he created everything.
Yeah Zeus,Ra and Anu supposively created everything too.Until polytheism took a step back to let monotheism in.


It's your choice what one puts their faith in. Why do you respond like it's a debate on weather Christianity is true or not? Your response is more or less irrelevant to what you responded to.

RKISIT's photo
Wed 05/16/12 09:44 AM





But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


They aren't "opinions" specifically. They are recorded events. For it not to be "something handed down from a person" God would have to reveal himself every year. Why should he have to? What does it matter if it's experienced first hand or handed down? Because obviously things that are not first hand experienced holds a lot of water, it convicts people of crimes every day. And not claiming God is as falable as the court of law, just specifically the not first hand part.

God would make an appearance every year if it was something to gain for him. God has nothing to gain from us in that way, God has everything, he created everything.
Yeah Zeus,Ra and Anu supposively created everything too.Until polytheism took a step back to let monotheism in.


It's your choice what one puts their faith in. Why do you respond like it's a debate on weather Christianity is true or not? Your response is more or less irrelevant to what you responded to.
Cowboy there is other religions other than the Abrahamic religion saga.Theres others that still follow the Pagan religion.I'm stating your God and his baby(Jesus) aren't the only ones that people worship.Other religions still believe in many deities and they believe their deities created everything.So someones deity or deities need to form the National Association of Deities(N.A.D.) and try to tell the people of earth who created what.

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Wed 05/16/12 09:49 AM






But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


They aren't "opinions" specifically. They are recorded events. For it not to be "something handed down from a person" God would have to reveal himself every year. Why should he have to? What does it matter if it's experienced first hand or handed down? Because obviously things that are not first hand experienced holds a lot of water, it convicts people of crimes every day. And not claiming God is as falable as the court of law, just specifically the not first hand part.

God would make an appearance every year if it was something to gain for him. God has nothing to gain from us in that way, God has everything, he created everything.
Yeah Zeus,Ra and Anu supposively created everything too.Until polytheism took a step back to let monotheism in.


It's your choice what one puts their faith in. Why do you respond like it's a debate on weather Christianity is true or not? Your response is more or less irrelevant to what you responded to.
Cowboy there is other religions other than the Abrahamic religion saga.Theres others that still follow the Pagan religion.I'm stating your God and his baby(Jesus) aren't the only ones that people worship.Other religions still believe in many deities and they believe their deities created everything.So someones deity or deities need to form the National Association of Deities(N.A.D.) and try to tell the people of earth who created what.


God has done this. Again, this is where it lays in one's hands. They choose to believe it's true, or not. Because again, God would have to make an appearance every generation... almost every year to keep it from possibly beeing seen as "hearsay rumors" or something of such. Why should God have to do that? Why would it be his job to save us? If someone wishes to be saved from death, they will seek the truth themselves.

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Wed 05/16/12 09:54 AM


But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


What you have been saying here is YOUR opinion, Rkisit.

Your evidence against God is fraudulent and based on so-called findings that have been passed down from one skeptic to another.

Each of these Skeptics who present these fragmented items have only one objective...and that is to
destroy the faith of godly men
and to redirect man's faith toward men who are no wiser than themselves.

A lack of trust in the Word of God causes a schism of comprehension.

He speaks with those who want to know Him intimately.

Do you?







RKISIT's photo
Wed 05/16/12 10:15 AM



But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


What you have been saying here is YOUR opinion, Rkisit.

Your evidence against God is fraudulent and based on so-called findings that have been passed down from one skeptic to another.

Each of these Skeptics who present these fragmented items have only one objective...and that is to
destroy the faith of godly men
and to redirect man's faith toward men who are no wiser than themselves.

A lack of trust in the Word of God causes a schism of comprehension.

He speaks with those who want to know Him intimately.

Do you?







Nope

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Wed 05/16/12 10:25 AM


POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts


As always, taking things out of context.

Quote 1 - Free will doesn't give you the right to do just anything you wish, even if it's a possibility of doing it. Just because God gave us free will, doesn't mean you can go kill someone. Free will, just means you have a conscience thought to your actions. You're not a preprogrammed robot that has to do certain things no matter what.

Quote 2 - You can do anything you wish" as in you have the possiblity of doing any number of different things if you wish. You are not restricted to only being able to do certain things in a literal sense, as in you have the capability of doing them. That doesn't mean you have the right to do them, just the capability.





you're still contradicting yourself...."Free Will" is either the ability to do anything that one choose to do or it's not

in the bible your God and Baal have the "Free Will" to do as they please ..and without any limitations or consequences

can you name any Man or Women that can do the same.....if not...then that is why you don't have "Free WIll"...

if you pay taxes or give tithes or have to pay on the toll road... you clearly don't have "Free Will"

RKISIT's photo
Wed 05/16/12 12:15 PM



But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not be faint.
Isaiah 40:31


God does exist and for those who believe in Him, he shows them in many ways that He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
doesn't anyone know the bible,this is Isaiahs opinion not Gods own words.The bible is mostly peoples opinions of what they think God is about not the actual words from God.


What you have been saying here is YOUR opinion, Rkisit.

Your evidence against God is fraudulent and based on so-called findings that have been passed down from one skeptic to another.

Each of these Skeptics who present these fragmented items have only one objective...and that is to
destroy the faith of godly men
and to redirect man's faith toward men who are no wiser than themselves.

A lack of trust in the Word of God causes a schism of comprehension.

He speaks with those who want to know Him intimately.

Do you?







See the thing is theres multiple religions i can choose from but your religion is to scary i still have to answer to someone even in death also i have eternal happiness and can't have sex no more,how is that happiness?Thats just ridiculous now if i go the path of islam and be faithful i get 72 virgins..now thats what i'm talking about,but the thing is after i bang all 72 do i get another 72 cause the first 72 won't be virgins anymore.
Or i could go the route and worship Satan and do all the fun things that the bible says i can't do but i don't believe we have a internal soul so i have nothing to give him.Then i could go with the Church of Scientology cult because i have no clue what it really represents.
I could join the Jewish faith and become orthadox and pray to a wall all day...BORING.I could join the Hindu religion but all those Gods with so many arms is kind of freaky.So instead i'll stick with my freethinking and live life w/o worrying if i'm being obedient to a myth.

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Wed 05/16/12 12:34 PM



POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts


As always, taking things out of context.

Quote 1 - Free will doesn't give you the right to do just anything you wish, even if it's a possibility of doing it. Just because God gave us free will, doesn't mean you can go kill someone. Free will, just means you have a conscience thought to your actions. You're not a preprogrammed robot that has to do certain things no matter what.

Quote 2 - You can do anything you wish" as in you have the possiblity of doing any number of different things if you wish. You are not restricted to only being able to do certain things in a literal sense, as in you have the capability of doing them. That doesn't mean you have the right to do them, just the capability.





you're still contradicting yourself...."Free Will" is either the ability to do anything that one choose to do or it's not

in the bible your God and Baal have the "Free Will" to do as they please ..and without any limitations or consequences

can you name any Man or Women that can do the same.....if not...then that is why you don't have "Free WIll"...

if you pay taxes or give tithes or have to pay on the toll road... you clearly don't have "Free Will"


The consequences have aboluting NOTHING to do with what free will is. Free will is PURELY the ABILITY or the POSSIBILITY of doing what you want, when you want to do it.

Means we have a CONSCIENCE thought to what we do. We're not just again, puppets on a string that moves and does things because of another's thoughts. We are not robots automatically programmed to do certain things a certain way.

We CHOOSE what we do or don't do through out our day. Thus free will.

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Wed 05/16/12 12:36 PM




POSTED BY COWBOY
Free will doesn't mean you CAN do anything you wish,


POSTED BY COWBOY
You can do anything, you have free will.


if you wish to continue your fantasy that you have "Free Will"...then can you do us a favor and use it to stop contradicting your own posts


As always, taking things out of context.

Quote 1 - Free will doesn't give you the right to do just anything you wish, even if it's a possibility of doing it. Just because God gave us free will, doesn't mean you can go kill someone. Free will, just means you have a conscience thought to your actions. You're not a preprogrammed robot that has to do certain things no matter what.

Quote 2 - You can do anything you wish" as in you have the possiblity of doing any number of different things if you wish. You are not restricted to only being able to do certain things in a literal sense, as in you have the capability of doing them. That doesn't mean you have the right to do them, just the capability.





you're still contradicting yourself...."Free Will" is either the ability to do anything that one choose to do or it's not

in the bible your God and Baal have the "Free Will" to do as they please ..and without any limitations or consequences

can you name any Man or Women that can do the same.....if not...then that is why you don't have "Free WIll"...

if you pay taxes or give tithes or have to pay on the toll road... you clearly don't have "Free Will"


The consequences have aboluting NOTHING to do with what free will is. Free will is PURELY the ABILITY or the POSSIBILITY of doing what you want, when you want to do it.

Means we have a CONSCIENCE thought to what we do. We're not just again, puppets on a string that moves and does things because of another's thoughts. We are not robots automatically programmed to do certain things a certain way.

We CHOOSE what we do or don't do through out our day. Thus free will.


Rules/laws given to us by God or even man, does not take away our free will. For we still have the choice to either obey or disobey the rule/law. If we had no free will, we wouldn't be able to choose. We would just do the will of God. But no, we choose.

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Wed 05/16/12 04:04 PM

The consequences have aboluting NOTHING to do with what free will is. Free will is PURELY the ABILITY or the POSSIBILITY of doing what you want, when you want to do it.

Means we have a CONSCIENCE thought to what we do. We're not just again, puppets on a string that moves and does things because of another's thoughts. We are not robots automatically programmed to do certain things a certain way.

We CHOOSE what we do or don't do through out our day. Thus free will.


in that case an amoeba also choose what it does....and it don't have a Brain ....which is an indication that "Free Will" doesn't require a brain

so can you give an example of how your "Free Will" is any different than that of an a one cell micro-organism?

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Wed 05/16/12 04:17 PM


The consequences have aboluting NOTHING to do with what free will is. Free will is PURELY the ABILITY or the POSSIBILITY of doing what you want, when you want to do it.

Means we have a CONSCIENCE thought to what we do. We're not just again, puppets on a string that moves and does things because of another's thoughts. We are not robots automatically programmed to do certain things a certain way.

We CHOOSE what we do or don't do through out our day. Thus free will.


in that case an amoeba also choose what it does....and it don't have a Brain ....which is an indication that "Free Will" doesn't require a brain

so can you give an example of how your "Free Will" is any different than that of an a one cell micro-organism?


Nice... funches admits that "Free Will" exists!

As for an example?
Humans have the capability of predicting the outcomes of their actions, an amoeba does not...

I know what possible outcomes could arise from this post, do you? Will you excercise your "Free Will" or will you be compelled by an unknown force?




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Wed 05/16/12 04:26 PM

@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.


Number one Lucy and Ardi do not rule out creationism and that is fact. The fact that human depict God as looking like we do today doesn't mean that God looks like modern day man. Or maybe god evolutionized as well, hmmmmm. The bible doesn't rule out evolution as a possibility. Do we really know what adam and eve looked like when placed upon the earth? Could they have evolved? Could Ardi in actuality be Adam from the garden of eden, hmmmm? When taken from eden is that whence evolution began? You are assuming science rules out creationism, and are in fact not even considering the fact it could in fact uphold it. Scientist do not rule out God. In actuality, many scientist remain in fact to be religious in many fields. Is it not a wonder? I just hope that when the end comes you are right, because if the end comes and I am right, I will mourn those sent into the depths of hell itself.

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Wed 05/16/12 05:42 PM

Nice... funches admits that "Free Will" exists!


everything exist in the mind and on the sci-fi channel ...


As for an example?
Humans have the capability of predicting the outcomes of their actions, an amoeba does not...


so I guess babies lack "Free Will" and are therefore on the level of an amoeba


I know what possible outcomes could arise from this post, do you? Will you excercise your "Free Will" or will you be compelled by an unknown force?


and that's my point...if you had the "Free Will" to imagine beyond your religious beliefs you would have been capable of presenting other options

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Wed 05/16/12 05:50 PM


Nice... funches admits that "Free Will" exists!


everything exist in the mind and on the sci-fi channel ...


As for an example?
Humans have the capability of predicting the outcomes of their actions, an amoeba does not...


so I guess babies lack "Free Will" and are therefore on the level of an amoeba


I know what possible outcomes could arise from this post, do you? Will you excercise your "Free Will" or will you be compelled by an unknown force?


and that's my point...if you had the "Free Will" to imagine beyond your religious beliefs you would have been capable of presenting other options


See that? Compelled....

So now I want to know why you think my example came from religion?
Did you get that idea from the sci-fi channel?


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Wed 05/16/12 07:09 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Wed 05/16/12 07:39 PM


@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.


Number one Lucy and Ardi do not rule out creationism and that is fact. The fact that human depict God as looking like we do today doesn't mean that God looks like modern day man. Or maybe god evolutionized as well, hmmmmm. The bible doesn't rule out evolution as a possibility. Do we really know what adam and eve looked like when placed upon the earth? Could they have evolved? Could Ardi in actuality be Adam from the garden of eden, hmmmm? When taken from eden is that whence evolution began? You are assuming science rules out creationism, and are in fact not even considering the fact it could in fact uphold it. Scientist do not rule out God. In actuality, many scientist remain in fact to be religious in many fields. Is it not a wonder? I just hope that when the end comes you are right, because if the end comes and I am right, I will mourn those sent into the depths of hell itself.
Well Ardi and Lucy prove that God didn't create everything 6,000 years ago either.Some scientist are deist,satanist,atheist,theist whatever ist that exist today.Your trying to prove that 2,000 year old scriptures are true when they aren't.you're a christian that puts you in Volume 2 of the Abrahamic religion saga,it's Volume 1 thats full of irrational stories of how things came to be.Look on the internet for proof of King David and the proof of a bunch of hebrews in a exodus.Won't find any other than Volume 1 of the Abrahamic religion saga.Volume 3 is the Islamic version of God also known as Allah.
The thing is alot of people walking this earth haven't really found out what science has proven as fact they just read a few articles and go about their business but if you dig deeper and really want to see what science has proven to be fact then you'll have to do that.Theres alot more to science than just the battle between God and No god.
You have also got to realize the bible wasn't written by God or Jesus and by no means is a science book.It's religious folklore just like the Semitic,Sumerian,Pagan...etc.That's all it is just some take it to serious and also realized they can make money off of it.

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Wed 05/16/12 07:54 PM



@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.


Number one Lucy and Ardi do not rule out creationism and that is fact. The fact that human depict God as looking like we do today doesn't mean that God looks like modern day man. Or maybe god evolutionized as well, hmmmmm. The bible doesn't rule out evolution as a possibility. Do we really know what adam and eve looked like when placed upon the earth? Could they have evolved? Could Ardi in actuality be Adam from the garden of eden, hmmmm? When taken from eden is that whence evolution began? You are assuming science rules out creationism, and are in fact not even considering the fact it could in fact uphold it. Scientist do not rule out God. In actuality, many scientist remain in fact to be religious in many fields. Is it not a wonder? I just hope that when the end comes you are right, because if the end comes and I am right, I will mourn those sent into the depths of hell itself.
Well Ardi and Lucy prove that God didn't create everything 6,000 years ago either.Some scientist are deist,satanist,atheist,theist whatever ist that exist today.Your trying to prove that 2,000 year old scriptures are true when they aren't.you're a christian that puts you in Volume 2 of the Abrahamic religion saga,it's Volume 1 thats full of irrational stories of how things came to be.Look on the internet for proof of King David and the proof of a bunch of hebrews in a exodus.Won't find any other than Volume 1 of the Abrahamic religion saga.Volume 3 is the Islamic version of God also known as Allah.
The thing is alot of people walking this earth haven't really found out what science has proven as fact they just read a few articles and go about their business but if you dig deeper and really want to see what science has proven to be fact then you'll have to do that.Theres alot more to science than just the battle between God and No god.
You have also got to realize the bible wasn't written by God or Jesus and by no means is a science book.It's religious folklore just like the Semitic,Sumerian,Pagan...etc.That's all it is just some take it to serious and also realized they can make money off of it.

Obviously this still doesn't prove God doesn't exist, but it does prove that human are fallible (which we already know). God didn't write the bible. Jesus Christ didn't write the bible. Human beings wrote the bible and yes the old testament was translated from hebrew. The lineage of Abraham to Adam and Eve.....and I only guessed at how long a day might be for god. Some religious views seem to believe that the formation of light the heavens and the earth date back only thousands of years dating from whence thy learned to date and not going beyond the imagination of what they presumed god to have done or completed. My mind goes beyond that back millions/billions of years to when God actually created the light heavens and the earth then plants animals until he got to creating adam and eve (possibly lucy and ardi). The bible doesnt date back to the beginning but god does. Jesus Christ into the new testament and that more accurate for me as written what was translated history at the time of Cesear. Many Ceasars existed and to deny history remains ridiculous especially since Christains base their main beliefs upon the New Testament and the saviour. The old testament main usage for tithing and rules against sinning. Christians can have sex within the bond of marriage. Do you trust in someone that tells falsehoods??? Do you protect yours against murderers???

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Wed 05/16/12 08:03 PM




@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.


Number one Lucy and Ardi do not rule out creationism and that is fact. The fact that human depict God as looking like we do today doesn't mean that God looks like modern day man. Or maybe god evolutionized as well, hmmmmm. The bible doesn't rule out evolution as a possibility. Do we really know what adam and eve looked like when placed upon the earth? Could they have evolved? Could Ardi in actuality be Adam from the garden of eden, hmmmm? When taken from eden is that whence evolution began? You are assuming science rules out creationism, and are in fact not even considering the fact it could in fact uphold it. Scientist do not rule out God. In actuality, many scientist remain in fact to be religious in many fields. Is it not a wonder? I just hope that when the end comes you are right, because if the end comes and I am right, I will mourn those sent into the depths of hell itself.
Well Ardi and Lucy prove that God didn't create everything 6,000 years ago either.Some scientist are deist,satanist,atheist,theist whatever ist that exist today.Your trying to prove that 2,000 year old scriptures are true when they aren't.you're a christian that puts you in Volume 2 of the Abrahamic religion saga,it's Volume 1 thats full of irrational stories of how things came to be.Look on the internet for proof of King David and the proof of a bunch of hebrews in a exodus.Won't find any other than Volume 1 of the Abrahamic religion saga.Volume 3 is the Islamic version of God also known as Allah.
The thing is alot of people walking this earth haven't really found out what science has proven as fact they just read a few articles and go about their business but if you dig deeper and really want to see what science has proven to be fact then you'll have to do that.Theres alot more to science than just the battle between God and No god.
You have also got to realize the bible wasn't written by God or Jesus and by no means is a science book.It's religious folklore just like the Semitic,Sumerian,Pagan...etc.That's all it is just some take it to serious and also realized they can make money off of it.

Obviously this still doesn't prove God doesn't exist, but it does prove that human are fallible (which we already know). God didn't write the bible. Jesus Christ didn't write the bible. Human beings wrote the bible and yes the old testament was translated from hebrew. The lineage of Abraham to Adam and Eve.....and I only guessed at how long a day might be for god. Some religious views seem to believe that the formation of light the heavens and the earth date back only thousands of years dating from whence thy learned to date and not going beyond the imagination of what they presumed god to have done or completed. My mind goes beyond that back millions/billions of years to when God actually created the light heavens and the earth then plants animals until he got to creating adam and eve (possibly lucy and ardi). The bible doesnt date back to the beginning but god does. Jesus Christ into the new testament and that more accurate for me as written what was translated history at the time of Cesear. Many Ceasars existed and to deny history remains ridiculous especially since Christains base their main beliefs upon the New Testament and the saviour. The old testament main usage for tithing and rules against sinning. Christians can have sex within the bond of marriage. Do you trust in someone that tells falsehoods??? Do you protect yours against murderers???
Well dang i totally had you as a christian creationist(the 6,ooo years ago theory)ooops.flowerforyou

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Thu 05/17/12 04:41 AM

See that? Compelled....


didn't Yahweh compell you to use his name as your Avatar, or are you using your "Free WIll" to disrespect your God Yahweh and his laws by using his name as your Avatar ...


So now I want to know why you think my example came from religion?


because you have Yahweh as your Avatar...DUH?


Did you get that idea from the sci-fi channel?


well actually it was the sci-fi channel that got the idea from the bible ....no one in the bible or on the sci-fi channel have "Free Will" ...there is always some God trying to control the people or some monster trying to eat the people

if you had "Free WIll" it would be impossible for any of that to take place

you guys keep confusing "Free WIll" with making a decision ....just because you can make a decision does not mean you have the Will to carry out that decision...that's why you religious chaps can't stop sinning....

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Thu 05/17/12 04:50 AM

you guys keep confusing "Free WIll" with making a decision ....just because you can make a decision does not mean you have the Will to carry out that decision...that's why you religious chaps can't stop sinning....


The confusion is yours. Unless you wish to admit to lying earlier about "Free Will" not needing a brain.

Either way, you have proven your claim...