Topic: Is there a god or nature which nourishes us
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Thu 05/17/12 11:51 AM

No, I don't "have" to eat in all technicalities if I do not want to. I eat because I wish to survive. I don't "have" to do anything if I do not wish to.

Cells don't have that choice. They do things because they are programmed to do as such, not because they choose to or want to. They don't do it "willingly".


a one cell micro-organism also eat to survive...and they do it willingly...unless you believe little elves float down from Heaven and force feed them....

so far it seems you do the exact same things that those one cell-ers do when it comes to "Free WIll"


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Thu 05/17/12 11:54 AM

He's not coming back to kill or murder. He's coming back to judge. He is the law. Sin kills the soul, not Jesus. Jesus saves and forgives those of their sins.


right...he's coming back swinging his sword of righteouness...so he's either coming back to kill or to make a porno

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Thu 05/17/12 11:55 AM


if Jesus forgive...then why is he coming back to kill

HES NOT FUNCHES!

Hes coming back to make people who dont believe, like you, freak out!!laugh laugh

Im sorry,bigsmile

im gonna go now.:tongue:

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Thu 05/17/12 11:57 AM


No, I don't "have" to eat in all technicalities if I do not want to. I eat because I wish to survive. I don't "have" to do anything if I do not wish to.

Cells don't have that choice. They do things because they are programmed to do as such, not because they choose to or want to. They don't do it "willingly".


a one cell micro-organism also eat to survive...and they do it willingly...unless you believe little elves float down from Heaven and force feed them....

so far it seems you do the exact same things that those one cell-ers do when it comes to "Free WIll"




No, again the cell micro-organisms don't choose to do what they do. They are preprogrammed to do certain things and that's all they do. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't willingly do things, they just automatically are made to do certain things without thought.

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Thu 05/17/12 11:59 AM


He's not coming back to kill or murder. He's coming back to judge. He is the law. Sin kills the soul, not Jesus. Jesus saves and forgives those of their sins.


right...he's coming back swinging his sword of righteouness...so he's either coming back to kill or to make a porno


He's coming back to judge. And a judgement is not killing nor is it murder. It's enforcement of the law.

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Thu 05/17/12 12:03 PM
You go to the church, you kiss the cross
You will be saved at any cost
You have your own reality
Christianity
You spend your life just kissing ***
A trait that's grown as time has passed
You think the world will end today
You praise the Lord, it's all you say

Jesus saves, listen to you pray
You think you'll see the pearly gates
When death takes you away

For all respect you cannot lust
In an invisible man you place your trust
Indirect dependency
Eternal attempt at amnesty
He will decide who lives and dies
Depopulate Satanas rise
You will be an accessory
Irreverence and blasphemy

Jesus saves, no need to pray
The gates of pearl have turned to gold
It seems you've lost your way

Jesus saves, no words of praise
No promised land to take you to
There is no other way

Slayer says it bestdrinker

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Thu 05/17/12 12:10 PM



if Jesus forgive...then why is he coming back to kill

HES NOT FUNCHES!

Hes coming back to make people who dont believe, like you, freak out!!laugh laugh

Im sorry,bigsmile

im gonna go now.:tongue:


Jesus is still mad about something that happen over 2,000 years ago, he sure can hold a grudge,

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Thu 05/17/12 12:11 PM

You go to the church, you kiss the cross
You will be saved at any cost
You have your own reality
Christianity
You spend your life just kissing ***
A trait that's grown as time has passed
You think the world will end today
You praise the Lord, it's all you say

Jesus saves, listen to you pray
You think you'll see the pearly gates
When death takes you away

For all respect you cannot lust
In an invisible man you place your trust
Indirect dependency
Eternal attempt at amnesty
He will decide who lives and dies
Depopulate Satanas rise
You will be an accessory
Irreverence and blasphemy

Jesus saves, no need to pray
The gates of pearl have turned to gold
It seems you've lost your way

Jesus saves, no words of praise
No promised land to take you to
There is no other way

Slayer says it bestdrinker


"Jesus saves" is contradictory to Jesus' real name...


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Thu 05/17/12 12:13 PM


You go to the church, you kiss the cross
You will be saved at any cost
You have your own reality
Christianity
You spend your life just kissing ***
A trait that's grown as time has passed
You think the world will end today
You praise the Lord, it's all you say

Jesus saves, listen to you pray
You think you'll see the pearly gates
When death takes you away

For all respect you cannot lust
In an invisible man you place your trust
Indirect dependency
Eternal attempt at amnesty
He will decide who lives and dies
Depopulate Satanas rise
You will be an accessory
Irreverence and blasphemy

Jesus saves, no need to pray
The gates of pearl have turned to gold
It seems you've lost your way

Jesus saves, no words of praise
No promised land to take you to
There is no other way

Slayer says it bestdrinker


"Jesus saves" is contradictory to Jesus' real name...


Actually it's Joshua but hey Jesus is what he was labeled,it ain't my fault.

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Thu 05/17/12 12:17 PM

No, again the cell micro-organisms don't choose to do what they do. They are preprogrammed to do certain things and that's all they do. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't willingly do things, they just automatically are made to do certain things without thought.


Cowboy ...again ...you are programmed to eat sleep and take a dump ...you're just as much as a robot clone as an ameoba ....you simply don't have "Free Will"

is the God in the bible programmed to eat sleep and take a dump ...if not..then why? ...the answer you give will automatically explain why "Free Will" is a religious myth

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Thu 05/17/12 12:21 PM



He's not coming back to kill or murder. He's coming back to judge. He is the law. Sin kills the soul, not Jesus. Jesus saves and forgives those of their sins.


right...he's coming back swinging his sword of righteouness...so he's either coming back to kill or to make a porno


He's coming back to judge. And a judgement is not killing nor is it murder. It's enforcement of the law.


oh...so judgement is slang for murder ...

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Thu 05/17/12 12:25 PM

Actually it's Joshua but hey Jesus is what he was labeled,it ain't my fault.


No, The letter J wasn't used until the 1600's.

Besides, what I meant was Jesus' real name has a litteral translation that contradicts the term "Jesus saves"...


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Thu 05/17/12 12:32 PM


Actually it's Joshua but hey Jesus is what he was labeled,it ain't my fault.


No, The letter J wasn't used until the 1600's.

Besides, what I meant was Jesus' real name has a litteral translation that contradicts the term "Jesus saves"...


Ok Peter i'll fix it "Yoshua",there you happy?tongue2

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Thu 05/17/12 01:11 PM



Actually it's Joshua but hey Jesus is what he was labeled,it ain't my fault.


No, The letter J wasn't used until the 1600's.

Besides, what I meant was Jesus' real name has a litteral translation that contradicts the term "Jesus saves"...


Ok Peter i'll fix it "Yoshua",there you happy?tongue2


Now please go look up what that name means in Hebrew...


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Thu 05/17/12 02:56 PM


No, again the cell micro-organisms don't choose to do what they do. They are preprogrammed to do certain things and that's all they do. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't willingly do things, they just automatically are made to do certain things without thought.


Cowboy ...again ...you are programmed to eat sleep and take a dump ...you're just as much as a robot clone as an ameoba ....you simply don't have "Free Will"

is the God in the bible programmed to eat sleep and take a dump ...if not..then why? ...the answer you give will automatically explain why "Free Will" is a religious myth


No I am not programmed to eat, sleep, and take a dump. I do not do these things without thought. The micro-organisms don't wake up in the morning and think.. hmmm, what to do today. They just automatically do what they were created to do without thought, without a will.

And God does not do those things, because those things in mention are things we do because of the flesh.

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Thu 05/17/12 03:02 PM




He's not coming back to kill or murder. He's coming back to judge. He is the law. Sin kills the soul, not Jesus. Jesus saves and forgives those of their sins.


right...he's coming back swinging his sword of righteouness...so he's either coming back to kill or to make a porno


He's coming back to judge. And a judgement is not killing nor is it murder. It's enforcement of the law.


oh...so judgement is slang for murder ...


Judgement - the determination by a court of competent jurisdiction on matters submitted to it

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

One is enforcement of the law, and the other is lawless.

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Thu 05/17/12 04:07 PM





@Seakolony,that 1 day being longer stuff was words coming from a human being that may have existed not the words of God,so basically it's an opinion.


Number one Lucy and Ardi do not rule out creationism and that is fact. The fact that human depict God as looking like we do today doesn't mean that God looks like modern day man. Or maybe god evolutionized as well, hmmmmm. The bible doesn't rule out evolution as a possibility. Do we really know what adam and eve looked like when placed upon the earth? Could they have evolved? Could Ardi in actuality be Adam from the garden of eden, hmmmm? When taken from eden is that whence evolution began? You are assuming science rules out creationism, and are in fact not even considering the fact it could in fact uphold it. Scientist do not rule out God. In actuality, many scientist remain in fact to be religious in many fields. Is it not a wonder? I just hope that when the end comes you are right, because if the end comes and I am right, I will mourn those sent into the depths of hell itself.
Well Ardi and Lucy prove that God didn't create everything 6,000 years ago either.Some scientist are deist,satanist,atheist,theist whatever ist that exist today.Your trying to prove that 2,000 year old scriptures are true when they aren't.you're a christian that puts you in Volume 2 of the Abrahamic religion saga,it's Volume 1 thats full of irrational stories of how things came to be.Look on the internet for proof of King David and the proof of a bunch of hebrews in a exodus.Won't find any other than Volume 1 of the Abrahamic religion saga.Volume 3 is the Islamic version of God also known as Allah.
The thing is alot of people walking this earth haven't really found out what science has proven as fact they just read a few articles and go about their business but if you dig deeper and really want to see what science has proven to be fact then you'll have to do that.Theres alot more to science than just the battle between God and No god.
You have also got to realize the bible wasn't written by God or Jesus and by no means is a science book.It's religious folklore just like the Semitic,Sumerian,Pagan...etc.That's all it is just some take it to serious and also realized they can make money off of it.

Obviously this still doesn't prove God doesn't exist, but it does prove that human are fallible (which we already know). God didn't write the bible. Jesus Christ didn't write the bible. Human beings wrote the bible and yes the old testament was translated from hebrew. The lineage of Abraham to Adam and Eve.....and I only guessed at how long a day might be for god. Some religious views seem to believe that the formation of light the heavens and the earth date back only thousands of years dating from whence thy learned to date and not going beyond the imagination of what they presumed god to have done or completed. My mind goes beyond that back millions/billions of years to when God actually created the light heavens and the earth then plants animals until he got to creating adam and eve (possibly lucy and ardi). The bible doesnt date back to the beginning but god does. Jesus Christ into the new testament and that more accurate for me as written what was translated history at the time of Cesear. Many Ceasars existed and to deny history remains ridiculous especially since Christains base their main beliefs upon the New Testament and the saviour. The old testament main usage for tithing and rules against sinning. Christians can have sex within the bond of marriage. Do you trust in someone that tells falsehoods??? Do you protect yours against murderers???
Well dang i totally had you as a christian creationist(the 6,ooo years ago theory)ooops.flowerforyou

I do believe in creationism just not in agreement with the time table..............

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Thu 05/17/12 09:20 PM
Yes, Virginia there is a g-d and you will find his/her origins in the Breakdown of the Biicarmel Mind (Julian Jaynes). Read the second part first.

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Thu 05/17/12 09:20 PM
Yes, Virginia there is a g-d and you will find his/her origins in the Breakdown of the Biicarmel Mind (Julian Jaynes). Read the second part first.

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Fri 05/18/12 06:57 AM

No I am not programmed to eat, sleep, and take a dump. I do not do these things without thought.


if you don't eat sleep and take a dump then you will die and as a religious person you are "forbidden" to murder yourself which only proves that you are programmed the same as a one cell micro-organism with no brain

for a religious person to believe they have any "Free Will" is delusional... because once you give your life over to a supposed higher Power you give up your "Will" and do their "Will"