Topic: Obama Blames His Race for Low Poll Numbers
msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:34 PM




there is no way to know the 'overwhelming' reason, millions of people have millions of reasons

the underlying point of this is most likely to try to misrepresent an interview for sensationalistic purposes

making a true statement about racism is not the same as strictly 'blaming' racism for anything



Dang, and just how many ways can you use to justify a blind faith based on pure racism, yes racism.

The man is an idiot in his actions and a liar with his words. He is one of histories largest mass murders and wants to add more to his tally.

He has put the people of these united States in jeopardy with Odumbocare that has nothing to do with health, just a massive control mechanism to control and limit peoples lives.

He has robbed from the people many generations into the future, but still the people of blind faith want more. But even more importantly, they just cannot understand why those not blindly following object, so it must be racist.

And truthfully, it is, but you have your premises backwards. Remember, there can be no conflicts, check your premises, they are wrong.



wrong again
I have blind faith in no man, that's why its hard for me to feel 'disdain' for men when they falter or fall short,,Im not expecting perfection or Supernatural ability

I am not happy with the support from the white house on issues like abortion or same sex marriage

I also wish he would be more forceful with congress and stop letting hem stall the country

I am not happy with some of the poor advisors he obviously has around him and, I think, some intentionally more interested in his sabotage than the countrys progress

I have far from any 'blind' anything regarding him or anyone else, my eyes are WIDE OPEN,,,but I don't see either 'all bad' or 'all good',, unlike others (POSSIBLY) fueled by racism or egotism or classism or any other number of isms,,,lol

and also


I have had plenty of debate and conversation with people who disagree with his policy or his decisions and that is not based in race if its a CONSISTENT value they hold to the office REGARDLESS of who is in it

those however who can repeatedly show ADORATION for other presidents who were just as guilty of any of the allegations against this president give me cause as to the reason,, and racism is one possibility,, absolutely

there is nothing here that needs to be checked, I have my perception as others have theirs,,,,

this has not been a 'fact' based discussion and I feel no need to be the one to raise its standard suddenly,,,



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Tue 01/21/14 02:34 PM


twisted logic believes people when they say

I cant be racist, my best friend is,,,,

I cant be racist, I voted for,,,,,


whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though,,,:wink:



Good, good, good and good. Self reflection is good for the soul. Congratulations, there may be hope for you yet.

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:41 PM
I cant be racist, I voted for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and in the 2012 general election.


There, I completed the sentence.

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Tue 01/21/14 02:43 PM
Edited by alnewman on Tue 01/21/14 03:04 PM


Actually, you have to prove the alleged justification.

President Obama is innocent of what you accuse him of until proven guilty.


Odumbo is innocent of nothing and has willingly followed his puppet masters. His whole purpose was to add the racist twist to to divide and conquer.

But alas, all he has really accomplished is to awaken the masses and put his masters' agenda into a tail spin.

Now all that remains is the crash and such a wondrous and painful crash it will be.

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Tue 01/21/14 02:47 PM



Bad premises make for bad conclusions.


and that means what?

that there are NO people against Obama due to his race

because those are the types of conclusions that have pretty bad premise,,,,,



Exactly what is says, there was no mincing of words.

And where the rest comes from, I haven't a clue, seeing things that aren't there?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:47 PM

I cant be racist, I voted for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and in the 2012 general election.


There, I completed the sentence.


what thought you said you didn't vote obama

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Tue 01/21/14 02:51 PM





there is no way to know the 'overwhelming' reason, millions of people have millions of reasons

the underlying point of this is most likely to try to misrepresent an interview for sensationalistic purposes

making a true statement about racism is not the same as strictly 'blaming' racism for anything



Dang, and just how many ways can you use to justify a blind faith based on pure racism, yes racism.

The man is an idiot in his actions and a liar with his words. He is one of histories largest mass murders and wants to add more to his tally.

He has put the people of these united States in jeopardy with Odumbocare that has nothing to do with health, just a massive control mechanism to control and limit peoples lives.

He has robbed from the people many generations into the future, but still the people of blind faith want more. But even more importantly, they just cannot understand why those not blindly following object, so it must be racist.

And truthfully, it is, but you have your premises backwards. Remember, there can be no conflicts, check your premises, they are wrong.



wrong again
I have blind faith in no man, that's why its hard for me to feel 'disdain' for men when they falter or fall short,,Im not expecting perfection or Supernatural ability

I am not happy with the support from the white house on issues like abortion or same sex marriage

I also wish he would be more forceful with congress and stop letting hem stall the country

I am not happy with some of the poor advisors he obviously has around him and, I think, some intentionally more interested in his sabotage than the countrys progress

I have far from any 'blind' anything regarding him or anyone else, my eyes are WIDE OPEN,,,but I don't see either 'all bad' or 'all good',, unlike others (POSSIBLY) fueled by racism or egotism or classism or any other number of isms,,,lol

and also


I have had plenty of debate and conversation with people who disagree with his policy or his decisions and that is not based in race if its a CONSISTENT value they hold to the office REGARDLESS of who is in it

those however who can repeatedly show ADORATION for other presidents who were just as guilty of any of the allegations against this president give me cause as to the reason,, and racism is one possibility,, absolutely

there is nothing here that needs to be checked, I have my perception as others have theirs,,,,

this has not been a 'fact' based discussion and I feel no need to be the one to raise its standard suddenly,,,





Really so you are right until you're wrong? Problem with reality?

So if Odumbo does more of what he has no authority to do, then what he does that he has no authority to do would be ok?

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:51 PM


I cant be racist, I voted for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and in the 2012 general election.


There, I completed the sentence.


what thought you said you didn't vote obama


I didn't. The sentence that I completed refers to all of those Democrats who did. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:52 PM






there is no way to know the 'overwhelming' reason, millions of people have millions of reasons

the underlying point of this is most likely to try to misrepresent an interview for sensationalistic purposes

making a true statement about racism is not the same as strictly 'blaming' racism for anything



Dang, and just how many ways can you use to justify a blind faith based on pure racism, yes racism.

The man is an idiot in his actions and a liar with his words. He is one of histories largest mass murders and wants to add more to his tally.

He has put the people of these united States in jeopardy with Odumbocare that has nothing to do with health, just a massive control mechanism to control and limit peoples lives.

He has robbed from the people many generations into the future, but still the people of blind faith want more. But even more importantly, they just cannot understand why those not blindly following object, so it must be racist.

And truthfully, it is, but you have your premises backwards. Remember, there can be no conflicts, check your premises, they are wrong.



wrong again
I have blind faith in no man, that's why its hard for me to feel 'disdain' for men when they falter or fall short,,Im not expecting perfection or Supernatural ability

I am not happy with the support from the white house on issues like abortion or same sex marriage

I also wish he would be more forceful with congress and stop letting hem stall the country

I am not happy with some of the poor advisors he obviously has around him and, I think, some intentionally more interested in his sabotage than the countrys progress

I have far from any 'blind' anything regarding him or anyone else, my eyes are WIDE OPEN,,,but I don't see either 'all bad' or 'all good',, unlike others (POSSIBLY) fueled by racism or egotism or classism or any other number of isms,,,lol

and also


I have had plenty of debate and conversation with people who disagree with his policy or his decisions and that is not based in race if its a CONSISTENT value they hold to the office REGARDLESS of who is in it

those however who can repeatedly show ADORATION for other presidents who were just as guilty of any of the allegations against this president give me cause as to the reason,, and racism is one possibility,, absolutely

there is nothing here that needs to be checked, I have my perception as others have theirs,,,,

this has not been a 'fact' based discussion and I feel no need to be the one to raise its standard suddenly,,,





Really so you are right until you're wrong? Problem with reality?

So if Odumbo does more of what he has no authority to do, then what he does that he has no authority to do would be ok?


lol,, please bold where I posted any of the above?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:53 PM



I cant be racist, I voted for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and in the 2012 general election.


There, I completed the sentence.


what thought you said you didn't vote obama


I didn't. The sentence that I completed refers to all of those Democrats who did. :tongue:


oh, I see what

no photo
Tue 01/21/14 02:57 PM
Edited by alnewman on Tue 01/21/14 03:51 PM


yeah, someone slacking in intelligence would think 'anything not their way' is racist



My point exactly! That is the sum total of the Odumboites.



however, no one here stated that



Really, that is exactly what is being stated.



there isn't a 'part' racist, someone is racist or they are not,,,



So if we use that conclusion, everything out of Odumbo's mouth (you could add the Lying General too) would be racist. Well even that is not absolutely true but close to it.

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Tue 01/21/14 02:59 PM




whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.

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Tue 01/21/14 03:03 PM

I cant be racist, I voted for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and in the 2012 general election.


There, I completed the sentence.


And how does that not make you racist? His message was to steal from some to give to others and why would you vote for a thief? His message was full of lies so why would you vote for a liar? How many more faults would we need to list before we reached the conclusion of racist?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 03:06 PM



yeah, someone slacking in intelligence would think 'anything not their way' is racist



My point exactly! That is the sum total of the Odumboites.



however, no one here stated that

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Really, that is exactly what is being stated.



there isn't a 'part' racist, someone is racist or they are not,,,



So if we use that conclusion, everything out of Odumbo's mouth (you could add the Lying General too) would be racist. Well even that is not absolutely true but close to it.


a person is a racist or they are not

statements may be racist or they may not

a statement can be racist regardless of the person who states it or repeats it,,,


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Tue 01/21/14 03:10 PM





quite wrong,, there are different types of racists

some get excited about the 'exceptions' but expect them to be 'exceptional' to treat them equally,,



Really, and from what halls of eternal wisdom would we expect to relate this spewing of dribble?


I have no expectations of anyone here who hasn't experienced racism,,,

except they continue telling themselves that others experiences are just all made up 'dribble' until they can 'prove' to the reader that they aren't,,,

really:wink:





life will go on,,,,:banana:


It the shoe fits.....

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 03:10 PM





whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,



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Tue 01/21/14 03:27 PM
Edited by alnewman on Tue 01/21/14 04:01 PM


Your level of intellectual dishonesty is incredible. Carter was disdained by many for being a fool, but not dishonest.

Nixon was disdained by many for being dishonest, but generally recognized as one of the more competent presidents.

Clinton was disdained for being dishonest and an outright liar, but his domestic policies ran pretty well. He also worked across the aisle.

Bush pushed a "donut hole" bill for drug coverage on Medicare without any way to pay for it. It was good for the elderly and bad for the debt. The troops respected him. He didn't tax to pay for the war either. He is generally considered honest.

You are making up the "double standard" as an excuse for the lack of performance of Obama in any arena. He is the worst in every category by a very large margin. He is setting records in the unconstitutional arena.



While I wouldn't argue with most of this statement, I do disagree with the last sentence, Odumbo is not setting records. He has come no where near Wilson when he gave the country to the bankers nor FDR and his new deal that staged the country for socialist concepts.

I would also disagree with you on Bush, a most dishonest individual that did more to curtail freedom than any before him. He tried to hide his dishonesty behind that idiot mask he wore, but he knew exactly what he was doing.

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Tue 01/21/14 06:51 PM






whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,



and me wonders what might be the reason for such racist oppression?
Appartied was a system used to hopefully keep away from crime.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 09:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/21/14 09:11 PM
I don't know perhaps women are raped because they are 'asking for it'?

and perhaps oppression happened because the oppressed would otherwise be 'criminal',, (unlike the oppressors,, lol)


but, perhaps most forms of oppression strive from the power struggle to have and keep 'the power' not just over ourselves but over others and what their efforts can produce for OUR benefit,,,

another word for it is 'greed'

they want others to build their wealth and resources while begging to be able to enjoy them equally,,,,

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Tue 01/21/14 11:40 PM




but he also called no one a white devil or said only whites have variations of racism



you don't know that... he probably said that one or two thousand times in his life...


Nothing justifies the latter above-quoted claim, not even remotely.


nothing that says its not justified, either..,works both ways


Actually, you have to prove the alleged justification.

President Obama is innocent of what you accuse him of until proven guilty.


i don't have to prove anything, thats yalls problem... all i have to do is type...if someone wants to know the truth, google is always right there...