Topic: Obama Blames His Race for Low Poll Numbers
msharmony's photo
Tue 01/21/14 11:46 PM
just a pointer: Google is like kids passing notes in a huge global classroom

it is not synonymous with truth, it offers everything from truth, to lies, to facts and opinions, to misinformation



mightymoe's photo
Tue 01/21/14 11:49 PM

just a pointer: Google is like kids passing notes in a huge global classroom

it is not synonymous with truth, it offers everything from truth, to lies, to facts and opinions, to misinformation





if you read more than one article about the same thing, the truth starts to come out...

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/22/14 12:50 AM

just a pointer: Google is like kids passing notes in a huge global classroom

it is not synonymous with truth, it offers everything from truth, to lies, to facts and opinions, to misinformation





If you are prospecting for Gold,do you just dig a little 2inchX2inch-Hole?bigsmile

InvictusV's photo
Wed 01/22/14 06:48 AM






whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..






Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/22/14 07:10 AM

Those damn trees always block the view of the forest!

metalwing's photo
Wed 01/22/14 07:10 AM







whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..








Not every allegation of rape is true.

Many times the race card is played by minorities falsely and in inappropriate ways. It is odd that a minority knows the heart and mind of someone else who does not happen to be a minority.

Obama's recent drop in the polls is not due to racism. It is due to poor character and job performance.

no photo
Wed 01/22/14 07:16 AM






whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 08:16 AM







whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..









really? no one?

cause it seems I have seen plenty of posts where people just posted the ANYTHING they could dig up that supports their perceptions without bothering to check its veracity,,,



msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 08:20 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/22/14 08:24 AM








whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..








Not every allegation of rape is true.

Many times the race card is played by minorities falsely and in inappropriate ways. It is odd that a minority knows the heart and mind of someone else who does not happen to be a minority.

Obama's recent drop in the polls is not due to racism. It is due to poor character and job performance.


its interesting to see how far people go to avoid acknowledging the reality of racism,,,,sigh


interesting too how some people proclaim to know the hearts of pollsters while seemingly questioning how well minorities know the hearts of others,,,

there is no way to know or pinpoint any particular one or two things that the drop is 'due to' anyway,




no doubt, some people perceive him as having poor character or job performance and no doubt some just are racist,,,





msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 08:22 AM







whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/22/14 08:45 AM








whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.

willing2's photo
Wed 01/22/14 09:38 AM
Who up in heeyah researched oButtmas qualifications and experience?

I did. Not qualified.

He was an LBJ psychological token pitted against a loser.

metalwing's photo
Wed 01/22/14 11:35 AM









whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..








Not every allegation of rape is true.

Many times the race card is played by minorities falsely and in inappropriate ways. It is odd that a minority knows the heart and mind of someone else who does not happen to be a minority.

Obama's recent drop in the polls is not due to racism. It is due to poor character and job performance.


its interesting to see how far people go to avoid acknowledging the reality of racism,,,,sigh


interesting too how some people proclaim to know the hearts of pollsters while seemingly questioning how well minorities know the hearts of others,,,

there is no way to know or pinpoint any particular one or two things that the drop is 'due to' anyway,




no doubt, some people perceive him as having poor character or job performance and no doubt some just are racist,,,







Some (not all) of the people who didn't vote for Obama were racist. Many who did not vote for him thought he was unqualified or a poorer candidate than the opposition.

The above racists do not count for the current "drop" in polls because they never supported him anyway. The object of this discussion is about the people who supported him and now don't. By definition, none of those are racists because if they were, they wouldn't have supported him in the first place.

The strongest racists are the ones who support him 100% of the time because he is black and therefore can do no wrong and the world has seen plenty of wrong so far.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 11:42 AM









whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.


has someone used a 'race card' here,, ?

please do tell,,,,whoa

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/22/14 11:43 AM










whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..








Not every allegation of rape is true.

Many times the race card is played by minorities falsely and in inappropriate ways. It is odd that a minority knows the heart and mind of someone else who does not happen to be a minority.

Obama's recent drop in the polls is not due to racism. It is due to poor character and job performance.


its interesting to see how far people go to avoid acknowledging the reality of racism,,,,sigh


interesting too how some people proclaim to know the hearts of pollsters while seemingly questioning how well minorities know the hearts of others,,,

there is no way to know or pinpoint any particular one or two things that the drop is 'due to' anyway,




no doubt, some people perceive him as having poor character or job performance and no doubt some just are racist,,,







Some (not all) of the people who didn't vote for Obama were racist. Many who did not vote for him thought he was unqualified or a poorer candidate than the opposition.

The above racists do not count for the current "drop" in polls because they never supported him anyway. The object of this discussion is about the people who supported him and now don't. By definition, none of those are racists because if they were, they wouldn't have supported him in the first place.

The strongest racists are the ones who support him 100% of the time because he is black and therefore can do no wrong and the world has seen plenty of wrong so far.


and Sharpton is depressed that Obama doesn't play the Race-Card more!:laughing:

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 11:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/22/14 11:47 AM










whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,






that is your opinion..

no one just accepts someones claims without investigation.

whether its a woman or a minority..








Not every allegation of rape is true.

Many times the race card is played by minorities falsely and in inappropriate ways. It is odd that a minority knows the heart and mind of someone else who does not happen to be a minority.

Obama's recent drop in the polls is not due to racism. It is due to poor character and job performance.


its interesting to see how far people go to avoid acknowledging the reality of racism,,,,sigh


interesting too how some people proclaim to know the hearts of pollsters while seemingly questioning how well minorities know the hearts of others,,,

there is no way to know or pinpoint any particular one or two things that the drop is 'due to' anyway,




no doubt, some people perceive him as having poor character or job performance and no doubt some just are racist,,,







Some (not all) of the people who didn't vote for Obama were racist. Many who did not vote for him thought he was unqualified or a poorer candidate than the opposition.

The above racists do not count for the current "drop" in polls because they never supported him anyway. The object of this discussion is about the people who supported him and now don't. By definition, none of those are racists because if they were, they wouldn't have supported him in the first place.

The strongest racists are the ones who support him 100% of the time because he is black and therefore can do no wrong and the world has seen plenty of wrong so far.


again with the
I cant be a racist because my best friend is,,,,,


rationale,,,,


I cant explain any better how much of a false assumption it is that all racism is the same or that all racists have an absolute and complete opposition to every person in a race,,


racists can often make exceptions for those members of a race who seem to 'verify' and validate their stereotypes by believing in the too,, by believing themselves an EXCEPTION to the rule

this is how black males who cant stand white folks will still marry white women

or how white males who have deep seated bigotry towards blacks can still find themselves 'in love' with a particular black woman,,


racists who generally don't like or care for or about blacks, could still have seen Obama as an 'exception' and voted for him anyway, until he didn't measure up to their litmus tests of acceptance

at which point they tossed him aside faster than a child with a hot potato,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/22/14 12:15 PM










whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.


has someone used a 'race card' here,, ?

please do tell,,,,whoa


It seems that when your life is a race card it can't helped but be played in that life, and the decisions and opinions obtained and held in it.

It's not really about the opinions of others to your race, it's about your own opinion of others based on it.

Racism is a character flaw, or parenting flaw, or cultural flaw, based on the individual, not the whole of a people or group necessarily.

It has everything to do with character! And Obozo just happened to write a book on it, as well as practice it, and live it.

His little reference to it in the OP as first on his list of why people are opposed to him shows that. He simply could have said (as a leader should, in neutral generality) that "people" disapprove of him for many reasons.

Like it or not, that is a race card. Anything that brings race into a conversation is a race card.


msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 12:18 PM











whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.


has someone used a 'race card' here,, ?

please do tell,,,,whoa


It seems that when your life is a race card it can't helped but be played in that life, and the decisions and opinions obtained and held in it.

It's not really about the opinions of others to your race, it's about your own opinion of others based on it.

Racism is a character flaw, or parenting flaw, or cultural flaw, based on the individual, not the whole of a people or group necessarily.

It has everything to do with character! And Obozo just happened to write a book on it, as well as practice it, and live it.

His little reference to it in the OP as first on his list of why people are opposed to him shows that. He simply could have said (as a leader should, in neutral generality) that "people" disapprove of him for many reasons.

Like it or not, that is a race card. Anything that brings race into a conversation is a race card.




so any discussion of racism qualifies as a 'race card' unless its brought up by someone else, and then a RESPONSE to it is playing a 'race card'

very telling,, very interesting,,,,ty

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 01/22/14 12:25 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 01/22/14 12:46 PM












whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.


has someone used a 'race card' here,, ?

please do tell,,,,whoa


It seems that when your life is a race card it can't helped but be played in that life, and the decisions and opinions obtained and held in it.

It's not really about the opinions of others to your race, it's about your own opinion of others based on it.

Racism is a character flaw, or parenting flaw, or cultural flaw, based on the individual, not the whole of a people or group necessarily.

It has everything to do with character! And Obozo just happened to write a book on it, as well as practice it, and live it.

His little reference to it in the OP as first on his list of why people are opposed to him shows that. He simply could have said (as a leader should, in neutral generality) that "people" disapprove of him for many reasons.

Like it or not, that is a race card. Anything that brings race into a conversation is a race card.




so any discussion of racism qualifies as a 'race card' unless its brought up by someone else, and then a RESPONSE to it is playing a 'race card'

very telling,, very interesting,,,,ty


If race isn't an issue, why would it be forced into a topic?

You seem to deem anyone who denounces the topic a racist because they don't practice that belief or hold that value as relevant.

That is the basis of the general character flaw. Not everyone plays the same game and it seems easier to condemn than offer understanding or acceptance to a differing opinion on it.

It creates a distraction to the reality

Do all vegetarians have to hate meat...... or simply choose not to eat it for whatever reason?

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/22/14 12:45 PM













whatever blinders help people sleep more peacefully though


Such as projecting one's own racism into others?


or trying to diminish or ignore the reality of racism,,,



One does not diminish the continued existence of racism by pointing out that racism can be projected into others.



to me, its equivocal to stating that not every rape suspect actually raped someone during a discussion on race,,,


it is a true fact, but it also appears in context to try to distract from or interject doubt and questioning of the topic of rape,,,




What the......? What does rape have to do with it? Are you bring up that Odumbo is raping the American people by his racist tactics, I could agree with that.


rape is a volatile and often very DIVISIVE(male/female) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY women are victims of rape

racism is a volatile and often DIVISIVE (black/white) topic, due to the fact that MOSTLY minorities (in America) have faced racist oppression

for this reason, it would be as distracting and diminishing to a woman speaking about rape in America to have that topic interrupted with a statement of not every allegation a woman makes about rape being true,,,,

as it is for a minority speaking about racism in America to have the topic interrupted with a statement of not how all claims of racism are true,,,





In an effort to play fair, please limit your "qualifiers" to one per post....laugh



i will play 'fair' when others do

for now, I play by what appears to be the same rules others do,,,:smile:


If by that you mean playing the race card like a gun at a fist fight.....

Character has nothing to do with race, or color, except when used as an weapon for argument due to the lack of it.


has someone used a 'race card' here,, ?

please do tell,,,,whoa


It seems that when your life is a race card it can't helped but be played in that life, and the decisions and opinions obtained and held in it.

It's not really about the opinions of others to your race, it's about your own opinion of others based on it.

Racism is a character flaw, or parenting flaw, or cultural flaw, based on the individual, not the whole of a people or group necessarily.

It has everything to do with character! And Obozo just happened to write a book on it, as well as practice it, and live it.

His little reference to it in the OP as first on his list of why people are opposed to him shows that. He simply could have said (as a leader should, in neutral generality) that "people" disapprove of him for many reasons.

Like it or not, that is a race card. Anything that brings race into a conversation is a race card.




so any discussion of racism qualifies as a 'race card' unless its brought up by someone else, and then a RESPONSE to it is playing a 'race card'

very telling,, very interesting,,,,ty


If race isn't an issue, why would it be forced into a topic?

You seem to deem anyone who denounces the topic a racist because they don't practice that belief or hold that value as relevant.

That is the basis of the general character flaw. Not everyone plays the same game and it seems easier to condemn than offer understanding or acceptance to a differing opinion on it.

It creates a distraction to the reality



I don't know why race would be 'forced' into a topic if it isn't an issue

I happen to believe race can be and often is an 'issue' in many things,, as much as politics is an issue in many things

In this discussion, the title suggests OBama 'blamed' racism for something when in fact the only quote (although it doesn't even have quotes around it) from Obama is a FACTUAL statement that some will vote based in race, either for or against him

now, my pointing out that as a true statement has gotten some feathers in a ruffle for whatever reason

and for some reason it is asserted that the president interjected race 'out of the blue' somehow without having even read the interview or the questions asked,,,,,

all these opinions are fine, but then comes mine and,,,,




I haven't called anyone a racist here, seriously, I base opinions on what I observe, like most humans I know do,,,

this THREAD was started about a statement on race.

as usual, it was NOT started by me, but as usual, my having an opinion about it equates to me using a 'race card'

and that seems like a very odd double standard to me, that others can have opinions mentioning and speaking about race but not until I have an opinion about that opinion is this elusive 'race card' allegation usually brought up,,,,spock

,, but its not going to stop my opinions .....lol